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Post by davi84 on Apr 20, 2023 16:52:38 GMT
Yesterday I was listening to Crown repeatedly, and suddenly started to grind my teeth just like the mad murderer from the video.
Should I call my therapist? 😂😂😂
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 20, 2023 17:24:00 GMT
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 20, 2023 17:54:45 GMT
Not sure if this was brought up, but I don't really hear Rob's vocals, which should be present og several songs yeah ?
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Post by lightning master on Apr 20, 2023 18:49:41 GMT
The section in You must burn! that Rob sings in would fit really well on either of Ghost's two first albums.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 20, 2023 18:52:02 GMT
The section in You must burn! that Rob sings in would fit really well on either of Ghost's two first albums. So I’m guessing that’s the mumble thingy ? I haven’t heard him in there to be honest. Not like in Halo |
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Post by lightning master on Apr 20, 2023 19:04:31 GMT
The section in You must burn! that Rob sings in would fit really well on either of Ghost's two first albums. So I’m guessing that’s the mumble thingy ? I haven’t heard him in there to be honest. Not like in Halo Yeah, that's the one if I understood him correctly in the 72 Seasons interview (I haven't noticed his voice either by the way). |
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Post by matsacchi on Apr 20, 2023 21:39:02 GMT
That prison video for Crown that just dropped is quite something... I don't like the glorification of violence without a conclusive narrative tied to this song at all. I can see where the plot was supposed to go, but all of a sudden Metallica are seemingly siding with a child and mom killer and everybody dies by the spit out the Bone skeleton? The song is a pretty deep insight into how James perceives the weight of his legacy and this is what gets done to it🤔 I think maybe James is afraid that bad people might be inspired by their music and do bad things with it. Like for example soldiers who listen to Metallica to get inspired to go out in the battlefield and kill. In a way their music helps to create violence. So I guess he might live with this guilt and feel like he's got blood on his hands. That's what I got from the video and how it ties to the lyrics. Pretty heavy thing to live with. |
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Post by SicJes on Apr 20, 2023 22:01:41 GMT
That's a big stretch. I get what you're saying, but they probably didn't even see the final product that much sooner than we did. Someone okayed it, and that someone is someone they trust 🤷🏻♂️
The proper St Anger narrative would be that the dad stalks his prey in the prison and at the end realizes that as much as he hurts, karma won't be delivered by his hand. The bad guy would still get killed at the end in a riot or by someone else, but at least our main guy would have had a character arc that was positive. Maybe make Metallica the guards who turn the blind eye while the bad guy is getting shanked.
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Post by davi84 on Apr 20, 2023 23:11:36 GMT
The section in You must burn! that Rob sings in would fit really well on either of Ghost's two first albums. So I’m guessing that’s the mumble thingy ? I haven’t heard him in there to be honest. Not like in Halo I also don't hear his vocals anywhere on this record. But that's no surprise for me... He's a major bassist, but he just can't sing, even if his life would depend on that. |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 21, 2023 0:58:42 GMT
That's a big stretch. I get what you're saying, but they probably didn't even see the final product that much sooner than we did. Someone okayed it, and that someone is someone they trust 🤷🏻♂️ The proper St Anger narrative would be that the dad stalks his prey in the prison and at the end realizes that as much as he hurts, karma won't be delivered by his hand. The bad guy would still get killed at the end in a riot or by someone else, but at least our main guy would have had a character arc that was positive. Maybe make Metallica the guards who turn the blind eye while the bad guy is getting shanked. Bro, it's just a video, bro.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 3:02:19 GMT
The videos for the first 4 singles are actually pretty good, they should've just done the same for the other songs.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 3:48:25 GMT
Not sure if this was brought up, but I don't really hear Rob's vocals, which should be present og several songs yeah ? Yeah, i didn't notice his vocals anywhere lol, where are they? |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 21, 2023 4:32:13 GMT
Went the whole day yesterday without listening to a song off the new record.
Today I played the whole thing start to finish. easiest 77 minutes of my life.
really enjoying this one.
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Post by yepsure on Apr 21, 2023 5:58:07 GMT
It’s all I’ve listened to over the last week. I’ve had a busy week so not been listening all day/every day, but definitely thrown a few songs on throughout the week and have had at least 2-3 end to end play throughs.
I should have a break or I’ll burn out on it too soon, but I’m loving it and can’t stop listening to it.
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Post by jayc on Apr 21, 2023 9:53:35 GMT
Not sure if this was brought up, but I don't really hear Rob's vocals, which should be present og several songs yeah ? I think it was misunderstood. He was never doing any lead vocals, it'll be all backing. But it's weird cos he clearly did backing on HWTSD sooo..... |
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 21, 2023 10:08:34 GMT
Not sure if this was brought up, but I don't really hear Rob's vocals, which should be present og several songs yeah ? I think it was misunderstood. He was never doing any lead vocals, it'll be all backing. But it's weird cos he clearly did backing on HWTSD sooo..... I don't think anybody ever claimed or thought that Rob would be doing leads. It was always all about backing vocals. |
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Post by lightning master on Apr 21, 2023 10:11:56 GMT
Not sure if this was brought up, but I don't really hear Rob's vocals, which should be present og several songs yeah ? I think it was misunderstood. He was never doing any lead vocals, it'll be all backing. But it's weird cos he clearly did backing on HWTSD sooo..... He only did the WAKE! shouting together with James in Dream no more though, so I would say You must burn! is his first actual singing performance.
The Dream no more recording:
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Post by Ruflux on Apr 21, 2023 10:43:33 GMT
It's kind of funny they made a big deal out of it anyway since historically Metallica albums have always had uncredited backing vocals on them, like the Creeping Death chant, Lars screaming in Ride the Lightning and Cliff I think doing some actual backing vocals on the album. Even Jason got a few moments which is saying something considering how tense their studio working relationship used to be. It wasn't really until the 2000s when they suddenly just stopped doing them, Garage Inc. still featured them.
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Post by SicJes on Apr 21, 2023 10:50:03 GMT
So I guess he's part of the creepy vocals in You must burn. Rereading, it seemed like it would be more obvious and up front.
SC: Talk a little more about the vocal developments on 72 Seasons.
RT: It’s the first time that James and Greg had probably ever really trusted me with that position on a recording of this stature. I was surprised when I got the call from Greg because I was coming up to play a little bass, but then he said, “I’m going to have you sing on a couple things, too.” And I was like, “Really?” I got a little nervous. At the same time, I was very motivated. Fortunately for me, the part really does suit my comfort zone, so to speak. The vibe and the interesting – I don’t know, I wouldn’t say the “quality” in what I had to offer – but the part lends itself to my personality, to my voice, and it sits and slots in really well with the moment and bass breakdown. So it’s cool that it’s this breakdown that James and I were able to jam on and create, and then I get to sing on it too!
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 15:20:55 GMT
RT: It’s the first time that James and Greg had probably ever really trusted me with that position on a recording of this stature.  He's been in the band for 20 years... |
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Post by BMus1 on Apr 21, 2023 15:54:25 GMT
Yeah but he also didn't sound good in front of a microphone til the Worldwired tour.
Also Rob is pretty audible on the You Must Burn bridge, you just kinda have to locate where his voice is in the mix. He's singing a single note the entire time, and tonally he sounds pretty similar to the "nya nya nya"'s in Carpe when they did it live.
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Post by Ruflux on Apr 21, 2023 16:25:37 GMT
Yeah but he also didn't sound good in front of a microphone til the Worldwired tour.
Also Rob is pretty audible on the You Must Burn bridge, you just kinda have to locate where his voice is in the mix. He's singing a single note the entire time, and tonally he sounds pretty similar to the "nya nya nya"'s in Carpe when they did it live.
That nya nya nya section still haunts me. |
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Post by lightning master on Apr 21, 2023 16:45:25 GMT
I love the last thing he says.
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Post by davi84 on Apr 21, 2023 17:06:41 GMT
Yeah but he also didn't sound good in front of a microphone til the Worldwired tour.
Also Rob is pretty audible on the You Must Burn bridge, you just kinda have to locate where his voice is in the mix. He's singing a single note the entire time, and tonally he sounds pretty similar to the "nya nya nya"'s in Carpe when they did it live.
I don't get what you're saying about Rob sounding good from the Worldwired tour onwards. To me his vocals went from bad to just meh at most. And the need for that other guy to do the backing vocals at the acoustic sets for the AWMH foundation just proves it, IMHO. I'm not a Jason fanatic, but I do miss someone who could just sing along with James and add another dimension and textures to the songs, especially live. If it wasn't for that Rob interview, we'd never ever really notice his vocals on 72S. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 17:12:53 GMT
Yeah but he also didn't sound good in front of a microphone til the Worldwired tour.
Also Rob is pretty audible on the You Must Burn bridge, you just kinda have to locate where his voice is in the mix. He's singing a single note the entire time, and tonally he sounds pretty similar to the "nya nya nya"'s in Carpe when they did it live.
I don't get what you're saying about Rob sounding good from the Worldwired tour onwards. To me his vocals went from bad to just meh at most. And the need for that other guy to do the backing vocals at the acoustic sets for the AWMH foundation just proves it, IMHO. I'm not a Jason fanatic, but I do miss someone who could just sing along with James and add another dimension and textures to the songs, especially live. If it wasn't for that Rob interview, we'd never ever really notice his vocals on 72S. You can barely hear him on YMB, and you're right his singing is pretty bad (for example the duets with Kirk on the HW tour). |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 17:15:56 GMT
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Post by SicJes on Apr 21, 2023 18:13:07 GMT
At least that video is watchable. Was kind of cool and trippy. Yay, sky whale things and decomposing wild life.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 22, 2023 4:09:24 GMT
Been listening to the album all week and have to say it's pretty good. 7.5/10
The only songs i don't like are You Must Burn and Lux Aeterna.
Alot of decent tracks on there though.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 22, 2023 4:41:54 GMT
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Post by Zalman on Apr 22, 2023 6:29:22 GMT
Even though it's on the lower end of my rankings, I think the Chasing Light riff at around 0:45 is the best riff on the album. The song as a whole doesn't reach the heights of that riff. In a way it's sort of similar to Judas Kiss on DM. Incredible chorus riff, so-so song. Could've benefitted from being trimmed, which is a common Metallica issue these days. Still pretty good though.
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He's been in the band for 20 years...
