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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2023 18:00:34 GMT
Lmao when I first saw that video I thought that, but the way they used it in the song is super effective. I'm glad they chopped off part of it tbh So another Kirk riff it would seem |
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Post by SicJes on Apr 14, 2023 18:23:47 GMT
When the chorus kicks in for Chassing light with the scremo vocals, I mentally need to remind myself not to squeeze my phone or clench my fist so tight. I just want to break something it's so good. So badass. Give me a sledgehammer or something and let me go to town with that part playing over and over.
It's like the Judas Kiss bow down parts hotter and younger sister.😂
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Post by BMus1 on Apr 14, 2023 18:24:16 GMT
Love Kirk, but he's been doing the same solo since DM, i suppose if it works don't fix it lol. Kirk should be embarrassed by a lot of this album. Half the solos even start the same. |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 18:35:12 GMT
Ok, it took way longer that I thought it would, but I've finally finished listening to the album.
I sleeped very badly this night, waking up frequently and thinking about the album. Of course, then I waked up late for work, so I had to run against the clock and catch up with everything throughout the whole morning... But, after lunch time, I've finally get the opportunity grab my favorite headphone, lay down, close my eyes and listen to everything, from front to back.
Honestly, I don't even know what to say. It's simply the record I needed HTSD to be.
As someone else has said before in this thread, 72S feels like the natural follow up to Load, Reload and Garage Inc, but a lot heavier, more raw, more ambitious and also more vulnerable. I also get some St. Anger feelings regarding the vibe, some lyrics and how exposed James sounds on some songs.
It feels fresh, and I've never thought I'd say that after listening to those singles. But man, I just love so many of the new riffs and harmonies..
I could go even further and say there's not any song I dislike after this first listening! Even that Sandmand riff in Sleepwalk feels good, because the groove is completely different.
Anyway, I can't do a song to song review right now, and even if I had the time to do it, it wouldn't be fair because I need to listen to it more before doing something like that. That's another fundamental difference from HTSD: this new album really has layers, just like Load has, while HTSD to me felt completely flat.
All I can say is that this album is perfect for me, at this time of my life. I guess many of us here has some of that "broken man" feel inside, and that make us all gravitate around James. And he really, really shines in this album.
Só that's it! Awesome album guys! This weekend will be all Metallica here!
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2023 18:36:46 GMT
When the chorus kicks in for Chassing light with the scremo vocals, I mentally need to remind myself not to squeeze my phone or clench my fist so tight. I just want to break something it's so good. So badass. Give me a sledgehammer or something and let me go to town with that part playing over and over. It's like the Judas Kiss bow down parts hotter and younger sister.😂 Love the comment hate the song 😂 |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 18:50:14 GMT
Love Kirk, but he's been doing the same solo since DM, i suppose if it works don't fix it lol. Kirk should be embarrassed by a lot of this album. Half the solos even start the same. Agreed. I don't care about any of his solos in this album, except maybe for that very last one on Inamorata. But now I've just accepted that the soloist part of his brain is long gone, fryed and buried. But I belive he may have contributed with some riffs and arrangements, and I may like those more than any his solos from this century. |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 14, 2023 18:53:34 GMT
I do hear a lot of Garage Inc in this record with some Ronnie Rising thrown in for good measure but for me this record is a progression of the last record... but leaning into their influences more.
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Post by SicJes on Apr 14, 2023 18:53:58 GMT
All I can say is that this album is perfect for me, at this time of my life. I guess many of us here has some of that "broken man" feel inside, and that make us all gravitate around James. And he really, really shines in this album 😭😭😭 This 100% |
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Post by heini92 on Apr 14, 2023 18:54:00 GMT
Kirk should be embarrassed by a lot of this album. Half the solos even start the same. Agreed. I don't care about any of his solos in this album, except maybe for that very last one on Inamorata. Isn't that James though? |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 14, 2023 19:03:12 GMT
I also agree with what someone said about Metallica getting a new producer if they do end up making another record.
Fidelmen makes good sounding records but it does feel like the partnership has run it's course.
I'd like to see Metallica get a fresh voice in the room and challenge them the way Bob did during the black album.
More of all someone who can kick Lars out of the room when it comes time for solos and give Kirk a new direction.
I definitely blame lars for Kirk's samey solos. I think he's capable of doing a lot more when not forced to imrpov everything off the floor so lars can Frankenstein one together for him. that shit needs to stop.
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 19:03:45 GMT
Agreed. I don't care about any of his solos in this album, except maybe for that very last one on Inamorata. Isn't that James though? I meant the one beginning at 9'40". If it's James, then I'd love to see him with a wah pedal live, haha |
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Post by heini92 on Apr 14, 2023 19:05:49 GMT
Chasing Light has grown on me so much since last night. The same goes for Crown. Sleepwalk is still not up to par to be totally honest. Still, proud of the boys! Fuck it, Sleepwalk is so Sabbath and has so much swagger I just dig it now. I think I love them all now. Goes to show you that intense listening can either give you fatigue or in this case just make you change your mind. An indication of a great album, me thinks. |
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2023 19:05:55 GMT
I meant the one beginning at 9'40". If it's James, then I'd love to see him with a wah pedal live, haha He has done that before 😄 |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 19:08:14 GMT
I meant the one beginning at 9'40". If it's James, then I'd love to see him with a wah pedal live, haha He has done that before 😄 Oh really?!? I'd have never imagined such thing! I'll search it on YouTube right away 😂 |
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Post by heini92 on Apr 14, 2023 19:08:50 GMT
I meant the one beginning at 9'40". If it's James, then I'd love to see him with a wah pedal live, haha He has done that before 😄 Yeah, I mean I've read somewhere that he wrote that ending and just went in and did it. |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 19:14:18 GMT
Chasing Light has grown on me so much since last night. The same goes for Crown. Sleepwalk is still not up to par to be totally honest. Still, proud of the boys! Fuck it, Sleepwalk is so Sabbath and has so much swagger I just dig it now. I think I love them all now. Goes to show you that intense listening can either give you fatigue or in this case just make you change your mind. An indication of a great album, me thinks. Completely agree. As I've said before, this album has a lot more going on than HTSD. I think it will mostly get better as we dig in. I also agree that it's time for a producer change, though. Lars and Kirk need to step up, and James don't seem to be willing to act like a bossy leader. But I have to give one thing up to Greg, though: the guitar tones in this album are really great, at least for my taste. |
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Post by Ruflux on Apr 14, 2023 19:19:06 GMT
He has done that before 😄 Oh really?!? I'd have never imagined such thing! I'll search it on YouTube right away 😂 Off the top of my head: the Ecstasy of Gold cover which is all James on lead (and enough wah to make Kirk blush) and the four Motörhead covers which I think all have solos from both James and Kirk, Overkill obviously being the most heavily played and definitely featuring a Hetfield wah solo.
e: Oh wait. In my defense I'm slightly drunk and the emoji didn't load I swear!
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 14, 2023 19:24:13 GMT
james has been making a conscious effort to give up control and let the other guys in, which I appreciate.
but the problem is lars basically operates unchecked now and some of the warts of his operation are starting
to show through. Fidelman is a bit too "Yes, Lars" for me.
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 14, 2023 19:33:24 GMT
Lars needs to record with wood sticks and lay off the Lars sticks. And close the hi-hats. He doesn't do lifts anyway. They are so goddamn loud.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2023 19:38:59 GMT
He has done that before 😄 Oh really?!? I'd have never imagined such thing! I'll search it on YouTube right away 😂 Ecstasy of gold :) Which one member of this forum witnessed live!!! |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 14, 2023 19:40:01 GMT
Oh really?!? I'd have never imagined such thing! I'll search it on YouTube right away 😂 Off the top of my head: the Ecstasy of Gold cover which is all James on lead (and enough wah to make Kirk blush) and the four Motörhead covers which I think all have solos from both James and Kirk, Overkill obviously being the most heavily played and definitely featuring a Hetfield wah solo.
e: Oh wait. In my defense I'm slightly drunk and the emoji didn't load I swear!
Oh, I have completely forgotten about the Ecstasy of Gold cover!!!! But I didn't know that the wah solo on Overkill was James! Awesome! |
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Apr 14, 2023 20:20:36 GMT
Lars needs to record with wood sticks and lay off the Lars sticks. And close the hi-hats. He doesn't do lifts anyway. They are so goddamn loud. Exactly what I said earlier. I have those sticks and they SUCK. |
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Post by Ruflux on Apr 14, 2023 20:28:40 GMT
Lars needs to record with wood sticks and lay off the Lars sticks. And close the hi-hats. He doesn't do lifts anyway. They are so goddamn loud. He's got a drop clutch on it, aka the worst of both worlds. Really everything about his hi-hat use is baffling once you get down to it. He very occasionally does proper hi-hat work with his foot (like Fade to Black back in the day, The Thing That Should Not Be, assorted Bob Rock era songs incl. Whiskey in the Jar which admittedly isn't exactly an uncommon live tune) but there's absolutely no reason he couldn't just fucking use the stand's adjustment to drop the hat and then occasionally engage the pedal when he needs it. The clutch just makes it sound like loose ass even when it's "closed".
But more than that, he needs to relearn how to fucking hit the goddamn hi-hat evenly instead of pulsing with the fucking snare. Listening to his hi-hat work drives me up the fucking wall because it sounds like a kid just learning how to play.
No comment on the sticks other than I'm pretty sure there's a reason everyone agrees drumsticks are made out of fucking wood.
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Post by BMus1 on Apr 14, 2023 20:40:31 GMT
I was shocked when I learned what a drop clutch was. Lars especially doesn't need that out of all metal drummers. Based on how he plays, it'd be better to just have it set at one level than the overly open, washy sound he goes to now for the loud stuff.
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 14, 2023 20:44:03 GMT
Lars is a frontman trapped behind a drumkit.
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 14, 2023 21:02:29 GMT
Lars needs to record with wood sticks and lay off the Lars sticks. And close the hi-hats. He doesn't do lifts anyway. They are so goddamn loud. Exactly what I said earlier. I have those sticks and they SUCK. I have those sticks as well. They're awesome in a live setting for loud songs. Other than that, no. |
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Post by Zalman on Apr 14, 2023 21:23:16 GMT
I never really thought the hi-hatting was an issue until Inamorata. It should have been a moment for Rob to shine but he's completely drowned by Lars not being able to chill.
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Post by BMus1 on Apr 14, 2023 21:31:25 GMT
Inamorata was one of the places it didn't bother me, weirdly. The hi hat rolls feel tasteful and I could see a lot of drummers playing the same part in that section. Spoilers to not make anyone else's ears mad at this but HOW did Kirk or anyone not notice the Mary Jane's Last Dance lick in the solo of Crown. It feels so out of place. |
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Post by Zalman on Apr 14, 2023 21:36:38 GMT
Inamorata was one of the places it didn't bother me, weirdly. The hi hat rolls feel tasteful and I could see a lot of drummers playing the same part in that section. I guess my main issue with it isn't the playing but just how loud it is in the mix. If it was more in the background it wouldn't be as distracting to me. |
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Post by BMus1 on Apr 14, 2023 21:43:42 GMT
Yeah I agree with that a lot. The drums on this album are making me realize how loud they also were on Hardwired too, I don't know why that never registered.
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