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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 8:20:22 GMT
if they are going to play a deep cut off the black album why not The God That Failed?
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Post by silentflames on Apr 12, 2023 8:24:09 GMT
It doesn't work well live and doesn't get the crowd pumped up
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Post by yepsure on Apr 12, 2023 8:27:26 GMT
They should have played Last Caress and So What like they did on MTV in '96.
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Post by silentflames on Apr 12, 2023 8:29:30 GMT
They do not have the "Fuck it" attitude they had at their peak. They're no longer in that position when rock/metal is sharply declining and they're fighting for attention with numerous other artists.
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 8:41:25 GMT
I assume everyone has seen that all the writing credits on the album have been posted.
if not here it is...
Kirk and Rob get 4 songs each. Pretty impressive after HW was basically the Hetfield and Ulrich show
72 Seasons
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett)
Shadows Follow
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo)
Screaming Suicide
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo)
Sleepwalk My Life Away
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo)
You Must Burn!
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo)
Lux Aeterna
(Hetfield/Ulrich)
Crown of Barbed Wire
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett)
Chasing Light
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett)
If Darkness Had a Son
(Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett)
Too Far Gone?
(Hetfield/Ulrich)
Room For Mirrors
(Hetfield/Ulrich)
Inamorata
(Hetfield/Ulrich)
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 12, 2023 8:46:48 GMT
I’ve always wondered how writing credits are divided.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 12, 2023 8:48:19 GMT
I assume everyone has seen that all the writing credits on the album have been posted. if not here it is... Kirk and Rob get 4 songs each. Pretty impressive after HW was basically the Hetfield and Ulrich show 72 Seasons (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Shadows Follow (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Screaming Suicide (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Sleepwalk My Life Away (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) You Must Burn! (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Lux Aeterna (Hetfield/Ulrich) Crown of Barbed Wire (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Chasing Light (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) If Darkness Had a Son (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Too Far Gone? (Hetfield/Ulrich) Room For Mirrors (Hetfield/Ulrich) Inamorata (Hetfield/Ulrich) Very interesting, we might get some different flavours on this album. |
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Post by silentflames on Apr 12, 2023 8:49:57 GMT
Why aren't solos considered part of the writing process?
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 8:50:34 GMT
I’ve always wondered how writing credits are divided. in metallica you get credits if you contribute Lyrics Riffs Structure (this is where Lars gets all his credits) guitar solos aren't part of the integral structure of the song... they are essentially color and layers. As Jason Newsted said when he was asked why he didnt get a credit for Until it Sleeps he responded "because the until sleeps bassline came with the until it sleeps song." |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 8:59:28 GMT
I assume everyone has seen that all the writing credits on the album have been posted. if not here it is... Kirk and Rob get 4 songs each. Pretty impressive after HW was basically the Hetfield and Ulrich show 72 Seasons (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Shadows Follow (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Screaming Suicide (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Sleepwalk My Life Away (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) You Must Burn! (Hetfield/Ulrich/Trujillo) Lux Aeterna (Hetfield/Ulrich) Crown of Barbed Wire (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Chasing Light (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) If Darkness Had a Son (Hetfield/Ulrich/Hammett) Too Far Gone? (Hetfield/Ulrich) Room For Mirrors (Hetfield/Ulrich) Inamorata (Hetfield/Ulrich) Very interesting, we might get some different flavours on this album. Kirk usually contributes those eastern sounding riffs; Roam, brokenbeatscarred, Darkness judging from Trujillo's credits from ManUnkind and Screaming Suicide his stuff seems to be groove-based and bouncier with funkier rhythms |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 12, 2023 9:01:54 GMT
Very interesting, we might get some different flavours on this album. Kirk usually contributes those eastern sounding riffs; Roam, brokenbeatscarred, Darkness judging from Trujillo's credits from ManUnkind and Screaming Suicide his stuff seems to be groove-based and bouncier with funkier rhythms All Nightmare Long was pretty cool from Rob too, been enjoying that recently. |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 9:05:21 GMT
how did i forget that?
Nice to see rob really making his mark now... especially since Jason could rarely get a word in edgewise.
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Post by silentflames on Apr 12, 2023 9:14:42 GMT
I love Jason and My Friend of Misery's original tune but I don't think he's a creative person tbh. Load/Reload basslines were created by James and post-Metallica albums weren't great at all.
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Post by jayc on Apr 12, 2023 9:31:39 GMT
I’ve always wondered how writing credits are divided. in metallica you get credits if you contribute Lyrics Riffs Structure (this is where Lars gets all his credits) guitar solos aren't part of the integral structure of the song... they are essentially color and layers. As Jason Newsted said when he was asked why he didnt get a credit for Until it Sleeps he responded "because the until sleeps bassline came with the until it sleeps song." That's an interesting quote cos Sleeps was one of the few (the only?) track that the band wrote in the studio during the Load sessions. Hence the lack of "Dungeon" demo. I wonder who came up with that bassline then. |
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 12, 2023 9:48:44 GMT
james
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 12, 2023 9:52:25 GMT
in metallica you get credits if you contribute Lyrics Riffs Structure (this is where Lars gets all his credits) guitar solos aren't part of the integral structure of the song... they are essentially color and layers. As Jason Newsted said when he was asked why he didnt get a credit for Until it Sleeps he responded "because the until sleeps bassline came with the until it sleeps song." That's an interesting quote cos Sleeps was one of the few (the only?) track that the band wrote in the studio during the Load sessions. Hence the lack of "Dungeon" demo. I wonder who came up with that bassline then. Yeah that’s a James riff as far as I can recall |
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Post by SicJes on Apr 12, 2023 10:01:22 GMT
Album drops in a couple days. First 2 night show to kick off the tour is in about 2 weeks... Where the Hell did the time go. Like, we made it!
Rob is in Berlin this weekend or something signing records if anyone is close and interested.
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Apr 12, 2023 10:06:29 GMT
I happened to hear a snippet and I gotta say, I like what I heard. It sounded a lot different to the first singles and imo not like anything from the last 2 albums which to me sounded similar.
I am hype
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 12, 2023 10:43:18 GMT
I happened to hear a snippet and I gotta say, I like what I heard. It sounded a lot different to the first singles and imo not like anything from the last 2 albums which to me sounded similar. I am hype Reported. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 12, 2023 10:50:54 GMT
I dont get the hype of leaks. When my favourite band is releasing an album of new music I dont want dodgy files or to hear it thru PC speakers, I am very happy to wait for it as a high quality experience. ? It's not 2002 anymore... What year it is makes no difference to that choice or preference. When something leaks in 2023 what sort of quality is it? Other than having no physical product to ponder while you listen it should be the same as at least the mp3s they will release so maybe its just down to impatience and a touch of me first. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 12, 2023 10:55:06 GMT
I happened to hear a snippet and I gotta say, I like what I heard. It sounded a lot different to the first singles and imo not like anything from the last 2 albums which to me sounded similar. I am hype Reported.  |
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Apr 12, 2023 11:03:15 GMT
Everyone is so all over the place with this I can't tell if it's humor or not haha
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Post by lightning master on Apr 12, 2023 11:12:53 GMT
I think James maybe would dig this. : D
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 12, 2023 11:42:56 GMT
I actually prefer the country version (with farmyard noises) to the original Lux Aeterna. Sounds chilled.  |
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Post by davi84 on Apr 12, 2023 11:56:07 GMT
Why aren't solos considered part of the writing process? Because nowadays Kirk doesn't "write" solos. He just vomit random pentatonic licks ad nauseum and then give them all to Lars and Greg to rearrange and stich it all together in a Pro Tools time-line. No one should be given credit for this kind of shit. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 12, 2023 11:59:19 GMT
Why aren't solos considered part of the writing process? Because nowadays Kirk doesn't "write" solos. He just vomit random pentatonic licks ad nauseum and then give them all to Lars and Greg to rearrange and stich it all together in a Pro Tools time-line. No one should be given credit for this kind of shit.  |
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 12, 2023 12:08:53 GMT
Why aren't solos considered part of the writing process? Because nowadays Kirk doesn't "write" solos. He just vomit random pentatonic licks ad nauseum and then give them all to Lars and Greg to rearrange and stich it all together in a Pro Tools time-line. No one should be given credit for this kind of shit. I tend to agree. Lux is especially horrific. I just read that interview again where he says that modal playing doesn’t suit Metallica. And that it’s much more difficult to incorporate pentatonic licks. I mean, what the fuck. Those bluesy licks does NOT fit a heavy song with dark lyrics. |
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Post by Awake on Apr 12, 2023 12:11:17 GMT
Inamorata is fuckin EPIC. It slowly builds up and then EXPLODES!!! I dont even know if you are to be believed.  Your humour makes me think you can post this without ever hearing it. I've never heard it, I just wanted to join in on the fun  |
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Post by silentflames on Apr 12, 2023 12:11:48 GMT
Kirk needs 1990 Bob Rock.
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Post by Awake on Apr 12, 2023 12:12:17 GMT
I dont even know if you are to be believed. Your humour makes me think you can post this without ever hearing it. He haven’t heard it He hasn't. |
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