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Post by forgotten in space on Dec 18, 2020 18:07:33 GMT
albon/gasly should've been the alphatauri line up next season - tost seems to understand both of them and albon was fucking great his half season at minardi. i don't anticipate them keeping gasly beyond 2021, esp if the alpine murmurs turn into something, though tost is a fan and we know how long he kept kvyat around. either way, yuki could maybe stand another year in F2 - he's still only 20 after all and next year could've been a shootout for pierre and alex. feels a bit early to buemi albon, imo. i don't think he deserves the RBR drive more than perez but i think he deserves a spot on the grid more than maybe half the grid. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but Tsunoda seems race-y, he might come good. I definitely think him and Shwartzmann showed more in one season than Cheat Jr. and Ilott in two. |
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Post by Bartman on Dec 18, 2020 22:35:23 GMT
no disagreement from me, i certainly don't doubt yuki's place on the grid. he did make it quite late re getting his super licence points but the lad is undoubtedly quick. i know that there is obviously a political case for promoting him too but he definitely has earned a spot per the regs.
all things being equal, i would want another year of him in F2 - he's not going to plateau and in that series certainly won't get less race-y. run gasly vs albon for a year at minardi and make a call on how to keep after that - either may way well get poached beforehand (alpine...) or the team might have a great year and a reevaluation needs taken place.
i wish it was the early '90s with 30 odd cars trying to qualify and plenty of teams that you could run young drivers (or experienced) in. imagine larousse nowadays!
tsunoda and shwartzmann have undoubtedly been stars of this year. illot is decent, i think. mick i am still unsure about. he's only had two seasons vs more but palmer and haryanto also pulled out decent championship results and weren't impressive at the top level (though politics undoubtedly played a little role too). shumacher has an obvious economic value to haas but i amn't sure what else he has that other, better, drivers don't. mazepin again, lots of money (but negative press), and clearly not as fast as many many others.
hope hamilton only signs a one year extension at merc and george can get moved up sooner rather than later. whether it's bottas or perez or albon or aitken, or whomever else, i would like to see the other williams seat shaken up.
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Post by Bartman on Dec 22, 2020 19:56:36 GMT
that franz tost quote is so great and like him to say (and also so true 🎅)
lewis either kayfabing here or has never been on the wrong side of franz because i doubt he would forget him if he did!
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Post by forgotten in space on Dec 22, 2020 21:54:06 GMT
Yeah, I read that transcript a while ago. As I said, I'm not a Lewis supporter but I am also not a hater. But he does have an history of being a bit of a slyboots behind a false layer of agreeableness. :p (We have such a simple expression in Portuguese to convey what I mean by this, but I don't know how to say it in English  ) |
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Post by Bartman on Dec 24, 2020 0:58:58 GMT
Yeah, I read that transcript a while ago. As I said, I'm not a Lewis supporter but I am also not a hater. But he does have an history of being a bit of a slyboots behind a false layer of agreeableness. :p (We have such a simple expression in Portuguese to convey what I mean by this, but I don't know how to say it in English ) for all that people talk about fred alonso and la scuderia the dark arts, lewis hamilton very much has a machiavellian streak. the way that he absolutely ethers people he doesn't agree with/is competing with. i don't know if we'll ever know but i would love to know what happened at mclaren between 2010 and 2012 and mercedes from 2013 and 2016. the situation with button & whitmarsh has to have been a lot more tense than made public for him to go so far as to share JB's telemetry on twitter and i wonder how early he was planning on making the move to merc - eddie jordan starting making that call before the 2012 summer break if i mind right...
i'm curious to know the portuguese expression now  |
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Post by Bartman on Dec 24, 2020 0:59:21 GMT
best team name in history
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 1, 2021 16:10:43 GMT
I got the Adrian Newey book.
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Post by Bartman on Jan 3, 2021 20:53:17 GMT
I got the Adrian Newey book. once you've learned how to make the car, i'll get pedro and narain on the phone and we'll be on the grid for 2022! in seriousness, how is it? been meaning to pick it up. |
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Post by Bartman on Jan 4, 2021 19:54:18 GMT
alex landing in the DTM
in a past year i would say it'll be quite interesting to see him go from F1 to, essentially, a prototype cosplaying as a touring car. now that it's just another GT3 series, i find myself not really interested. pairing him up with one of the new red bull kids though - liam lawson* - certainly puts an onus on him being very quick very early.
*born in 2002  |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 5, 2021 18:29:01 GMT
I got the Adrian Newey book. once you've learned how to make the car, i'll get pedro and narain on the phone and we'll be on the grid for 2022! in seriousness, how is it? been meaning to pick it up. I'm liking it so far, some stuff I didn't know at all from his time in America (you get a good sense of how huge the Indy 500 is) and a few funny stories. Mansell's mind games with Patrese, for instance, like doing fake debriefs (giving false feedback in the post-race debrief and then doing it properly alone with his race engineer so that the sister car can't copy set-ups etc, leaving knobs and stuff like that in the wrong position in the garage to mislead the others) and giving advice on how to hold the steering through chicanes that resulted in hurt fingers and bloody knuckles He also caused Ron Dennis to almost have a fit just by decorating his office (Ron of course being a control freak and wanting everything grey). No idea that he also race engineered Mika and Damon. You can see there's no ghost writer because his writing is very plain and concise, don't expect any Flaubertian turns of phrase or colourful adjectives. It's also quite clear he doesn't quite like Ferrari or Ross Brawn  |
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Post by Bartman on Jan 17, 2021 14:18:52 GMT
I'm liking it so far, some stuff I didn't know at all from his time in America (you get a good sense of how huge the Indy 500 is) and a few funny stories. Mansell's mind games with Patrese, for instance, like doing fake debriefs (giving false feedback in the post-race debrief and then doing it properly alone with his race engineer so that the sister car can't copy set-ups etc, leaving knobs and stuff like that in the wrong position in the garage to mislead the others) and giving advice on how to hold the steering through chicanes that resulted in hurt fingers and bloody knuckles He also caused Ron Dennis to almost have a fit just by decorating his office (Ron of course being a control freak and wanting everything grey). No idea that he also race engineered Mika and Damon. You can see there's no ghost writer because his writing is very plain and concise, don't expect any Flaubertian turns of phrase or colourful adjectives. It's also quite clear he doesn't quite like Ferrari or Ross Brawn mansell was brutal the stuff about the 500 sounds interesting, i had forgotten that he'd worked in CART.
i am very excited to give this a read. i think that it is actually written by newey works in its favour as you said - you can tell its written by an engineer?
his relationship with brawn and ferrari would've made for great reading, i am sure! does that feeling towards them remain still? (i suspect that i know the answer to that ) |
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Post by Bartman on Jan 17, 2021 14:28:25 GMT
sky f1 are putting on all of these jenson button highlights races the now. we're on the 2010 season and two things that strike me: that HRT car looked the business. it looked seriously smart and obviously had a lot of potential. dallara did a great job with it and the team was obviously a very good outfit, just one that was woefully underprepared. of "the new teams", i always felt that they had the most potential but never the funds to do anything with it. the 2011 and 2012 cars looked mint too (when they were actually built) but they just never had the funding. what they could've done with some suspicious russian or malaysian backers like their peers! those 2010 cars look so slow. this was the first season without refuelling and so, at the time, it was expected that they would be slower than in 2009. after 7 season of hybrid formula though, and especially post-2017 aero regs, the 2009-2013 cars look like formula 3 cars. i think it partially explains why even i lost interest during that season (and no kimi  )
david coulthard occasionally provides analysis and he sounds like the programmed commentators on a ps1 football game. he stepped up his game in years after!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 17, 2021 15:53:45 GMT
I'm liking it so far, some stuff I didn't know at all from his time in America (you get a good sense of how huge the Indy 500 is) and a few funny stories. Mansell's mind games with Patrese, for instance, like doing fake debriefs (giving false feedback in the post-race debrief and then doing it properly alone with his race engineer so that the sister car can't copy set-ups etc, leaving knobs and stuff like that in the wrong position in the garage to mislead the others) and giving advice on how to hold the steering through chicanes that resulted in hurt fingers and bloody knuckles He also caused Ron Dennis to almost have a fit just by decorating his office (Ron of course being a control freak and wanting everything grey). No idea that he also race engineered Mika and Damon. You can see there's no ghost writer because his writing is very plain and concise, don't expect any Flaubertian turns of phrase or colourful adjectives. It's also quite clear he doesn't quite like Ferrari or Ross Brawn mansell was brutal the stuff about the 500 sounds interesting, i had forgotten that he'd worked in CART.
i am very excited to give this a read. i think that it is actually written by newey works in its favour as you said - you can tell its written by an engineer?
his relationship with brawn and ferrari would've made for great reading, i am sure! does that feeling towards them remain still? (i suspect that i know the answer to that ) I was wrong, there's a ghostwriter, he thanks him in the final notes. But it has probably more to do with organising/sitting down typing, it's still a very simple narrative voice, he doesn't embelish anything (like I said with adjectives and stuff like that) so you feel like there's no additional person at all. Ferrari apparently gave him the keys to the whole race team and actual road car operations :o but he didn't feel like leaving. I liked the book, it could comfortably have been double the length and not be boring. But I suppose I'm being too greedy :p |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 19, 2021 18:21:38 GMT
Dorilton wasting one of the testing days on Nissany >:D
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Post by Bartman on Jan 20, 2021 23:39:34 GMT
from how you've described the book, it certainly sounds like the ghostwriter was there to tidy the thing up rather than actually write it. when the shops are open again i will definitely have a look for it as it sounds great.
very intrigued by this ferrari story! thank you for sharing.
Dorilton wasting one of the testing days on Nissany >:D i know that they need the money but like with haas and aston and to some extent alfa this season they're going to get what they deserve doing this shit. heaven forbid, the guy that came in with no testing and almost beat your regular driver with 3 days notice and is a long shot for a drive next year get a go testing.
though i think aitken is going to land at aston martin in the nearish future. maybe not on the f1 side but we'll see.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 22, 2021 19:35:36 GMT
And now Button is an adviser? The guy who went back on his word and contract to them? Seriously.
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Post by Bartman on Jan 22, 2021 23:14:45 GMT
And now Button is an adviser? The guy who went back on his word and contract to them? Seriously. who better to advise you than the guy who did that to williams and BAR and the guy that turned down a ferrari and merc contract in 2012 to double down on mclaren lol he's also known for being quite a political character so i wonder what the wider plan here is |
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Post by Bartman on Jan 22, 2021 23:16:37 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Jan 24, 2021 19:37:14 GMT
that's a sight for sore eyes ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
special k getting it done so far 💪💪💪
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Post by Bartman on Jan 25, 2021 17:13:24 GMT
also in that race yesterday, you had jimmie johnson and kamui kobayashi sharing a car and if you told me a few years that that'd happen i would not have expected but would be as happy as i am today
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Post by Bartman on Jan 28, 2021 9:04:16 GMT
adrian campos has passed
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Post by Bartman on Jan 29, 2021 0:03:26 GMT
eddie irvine is fucking class
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Post by Bartman on Feb 2, 2021 13:28:12 GMT
this is interesting, as AF corse are as close to being a ferrari factory team as you can get:
it also maybe isn't and red bull had to put their stickers on some car. albon driving a near factory ferrari is at the very least fun.
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Post by forgotten in space on Feb 2, 2021 14:03:07 GMT
So it's basically not Red Bull, then.
Haas will not develop their car at all unless there are issues in testing. Hooray for Cheat Jr. and PussyGrabber. Dorilton must surely beat them now.
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Post by Bartman on Feb 2, 2021 15:07:22 GMT
red bull branded. it's GT3 so unless red bull had a production car ready to go that could be homolgated to GT3 spec, they were always going to be using different machinery. what surprises me is that it is they are using AF corse rather than buying a porsche/ferrai/audi etc and running it themselves. they don't do that in super gt or super formula right enough so i amn't super surprised.
big fan of haas just saying "fuck it" for next year. like that year manor ran merhi & stephens, as talented as they are neither team had a formula one caliber line up and if money's tight, developing the car is essentially pishing money away. if ferrari have their illegal magic engine again, they'll maybe at least be competitive at the back of the field, if not doritos really should crush them.
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Post by Bartman on Feb 7, 2021 16:25:28 GMT
well ferrari must've got something out of this 2025 engine freeze in F1...
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Post by Bartman on Feb 8, 2021 15:04:35 GMT
swear i had no influence or sway in this but a LMP programme made up of magnussen, vergne and di resta is, like, the top bartman line up and the kind of drivers i haver about here a lot |
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Post by forgotten in space on Feb 8, 2021 18:04:08 GMT
Wrong Magnussen though :'(
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Post by Bartman on Feb 8, 2021 18:37:39 GMT
hahahaha it's funny because jan has been getting prototype work too after chevrolet dropped him!
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Post by forgotten in space on Feb 11, 2021 19:02:53 GMT
Engine freeze :o
Who will Red Bull blame now?
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