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Post by Bartman on Oct 11, 2020 21:19:48 GMT
Yeah, so far so good, they just need to mail us the fucking tickets! 😬  hopefully soon m8!
i always hate it when events companies do that! just give me my tickets!
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Post by Bartman on Oct 11, 2020 23:26:30 GMT
i think grosjean was my driver of the day today. for all they are derided, the haas boys have been quietly putting together a great season between them with some really impressive and at time dogged performances. if they had the 2018 car again the midfield battle would be even tighter i suspect.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 12, 2020 18:45:39 GMT
i was reading in racer that, upon delivering an inconclusive rona test, red bull reached out to hulk to potentially stand in for albon this weekend...
it doesn't necessarily mean anything in this weird year but it's interesting. i wonder where buemi was?
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Post by Bartman on Oct 12, 2020 21:44:04 GMT
they're such a bastard team, mclaren
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 12, 2020 22:16:55 GMT
Take Teflonso with you so Hulk can return to Enstone! 😔
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Post by Bartman on Oct 12, 2020 22:33:17 GMT
hahahaha after the past couple of races for both, hulk + that 2021 renault with the developed engine might be quite a potent mix...
it might not all be on zak brown's watch but their indycar programme has been a sham thus far. total disrespect for drivers - sacking askew for embarrassing the team because a) he had a concussion following a 160 mph crash and b) wanting a second opinion regarding his condition; dropping james hinchcliffe and more or less pushing out marcus ericsson while both were still under contract; the litany of failures associated with alonso's indy 500 qualification attempt last year to go with other, more minor, behaviours is not a good look.
lando and danny ric better make sure none of them get hurt and hope that seidl delivers a strong car next year and going forth! :p
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Post by Bartman on Oct 14, 2020 13:21:31 GMT
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 16, 2020 17:24:29 GMT
Red Bull wants an engine freeze just so that they won't have to go back to Renault  Eleven Sports Portugal is showing the Portuguese GPs of 1984, 1985 and 1996 this weekend. :D also, got my ticket, so now all it takes is for the health authorities not shutting us down. |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 16, 2020 20:40:45 GMT
lol of course ferrari don't support an engine freeze
i mean aye because their current engine is pish but still, this is extremely like ferrari to do this
i don't really know what i think on this tbh i would rather have less expensive engines that would allow smaller (or any other) manufacturers to participate - the hybrids as they are aren't super road relevant and while better for the environment than V12s, they aren't exactly carbon neutral.
some smaller group in england were said to have been building an engine in 2015 i think - it wasn't AER, gibson or cosworth but it was someone within that range - to go with a body made by someone (ginetta?) for testing purposes but it never seemed to go anywhere. there was never an intention to enter F1 but i think it was to serve as a testing car that was up to current regulations, either for private tests or pirelli. there was some speculation around this time of there being privateer hybird LMP1 teams (and ginetta was one) so a project like this could've been a practice or research for that. neither really amounted to anything, especially after honda and nissan's debacles in 2015 in F1 and WEC. it's a shame though that modestly sized constructors can't undertake F1 or prototype racing in the current environment because the regs are either so cost prohibitive or closed shops. hrt could've had 4-5 well funded indycar seasons for one year of their formula one programme :shrugs:
Eleven Sports Portugal is showing the Portuguese GPs of 1984, 1985 and 1996 this weekend. :D also, got my ticket, so now all it takes is for the health authorities not shutting us down. that's class. what's the excitement level within the portuguese sporting media like? and is there any word of them wanting to host further races in the future?
hopefully it's a good race for you m8. are you assigned a seat/grandstand or are you free to go wherever there is space?
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 17, 2020 19:59:04 GMT
It's hard to gauge the interest in the very tabloidy sports media, between Cromaldo catching Covid, the national team playing twice, a Portuguese cyclist with the pink jersey in the Giro and another winning a stage (and the Sporting x Porto match tonight)  the normal media is too busy with the renewed state of emergency, seemingy incoming Budget shambles, big profile corruption investigation and trials, etc etc. I do have been deliberately ignoring the sports media (three!!! daily newspapers in our miniscule market) for quite some time, though. the attention given to the Giro rider is a freak occurrence, usually it's 98% football (well, more like the Big 3). And thanks, mate, hopefully it rains so there's no DRS, and yeah I have seated tickets. |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 19, 2020 10:48:44 GMT
the motogp race yesterday was fucking CLASS. i'm sorry for his injury and i hope that he's able to recover but the absence of marc marquez has given us one of the most exciting championships of all time. so good.
joan mir still hasn't won a race this year (or in the class at all) but is leading the championship, three riders are still within a win of taking the lead with four races to go with 39 points covering the top 8, alex marquez has finally figured out the honda and very nearly won yesterday, 4 riders have taken their debut victories (and, almost surely, joan mir will), 8 riders have taken races, only 1 rider has finished in the points every race...it's chaos but it's good, it isn't just random things happening for random reasons. special year.
It's hard to gauge the interest in the very tabloidy sports media, between Cromaldo catching Covid, the national team playing twice, a Portuguese cyclist with the pink jersey in the Giro and another winning a stage (and the Sporting x Porto match tonight) the normal media is too busy with the renewed state of emergency, seemingy incoming Budget shambles, big profile corruption investigation and trials, etc etc. I do have been deliberately ignoring the sports media (three!!! daily newspapers in our miniscule market) for quite some time, though. the attention given to the Giro rider is a freak occurrence, usually it's 98% football (well, more like the Big 3). And thanks, mate, hopefully it rains so there's no DRS, and yeah I have seated tickets. yes! it's been quite a busy time! i was wondering how the media were covering almeida's stint in the maglia rosa was being covered as well, he's been quite sensational, let alone guerrerio's stage win and stout attempt at the maglia azzura. considered sticking £10 on almeida to win, back when he had long odds, just before the race started, but didn't. we'll see how he gets on in the final week but he might be able to pull it off if he doesn't blow it on the high mountains or the final time trial 
i would have for there to be any sports newspaper in scotland but until we have more than one semi-professional sport to succeed in, i suspect we will have to wait a bit :p
i'm really intrigued to see how this track races, either in the wet or dry. hopefully it's a good one for you with some showers!
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Post by Bartman on Oct 20, 2020 16:57:03 GMT
i can't remember where i read it, i might have been racer or autosport or the race or some bandit site, but it's claimed that F1/FIA still intende to open the season in australia and to run a *23* race calendar next year, with a new race in saudi arabia (some street circuit, proper track being built for 2022 iirc) being added.
the race in saudi was inevitable and, like, they already go to azerbaijan, china, brazil, russia, usa, bahrain, turkey (this year) canada, uk... so human rights are out the window regardless it's just how predictable that was.
the 23 race season however if fucking madness at the best of times but in what, at best will be, a somewhat disrupted year it's fucking lunacy. there's no other word for it. at the very least the PR/image of it should be negative - you, proles, workers, lower income folk, have to abide by lockdowns and can't socialise with our friends and family but lewis hamilton and daniel ricciardo get to drive in 23 different countries and swan back and forward to monaco and la in the meantime.
i'd be fine with a 16-17 race season based primarily in east asia and europe, or wherever will be safe (europe included for obvious logistical reasons), and away we go. there should be a 16-17 race season *anyway* but in the current situation definitely so.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 20, 2020 19:03:45 GMT
i can't remember where i read it, i might have been racer or autosport or the race or some bandit site, but it's claimed that F1/FIA still intende to open the season in australia and to run a *23* race calendar next year, with a new race in saudi arabia (some street circuit, proper track being built for 2022 iirc) being added.
the race in saudi was inevitable and, like, they already go to azerbaijan, china, brazil, russia, usa, bahrain, turkey (this year) canada, uk... so human rights are out the window regardless it's just how predictable that was.
the 23 race season however if fucking madness at the best of times but in what, at best will be, a somewhat disrupted year it's fucking lunacy. there's no other word for it. at the very least the PR/image of it should be negative - you, proles, workers, lower income folk, have to abide by lockdowns and can't socialise with our friends and family but lewis hamilton and daniel ricciardo get to drive in 23 different countries and swan back and forward to monaco and la in the meantime.
i'd be fine with a 16-17 race season based primarily in east asia and europe, or wherever will be safe (europe included for obvious logistical reasons), and away we go. there should be a 16-17 race season *anyway* but in the current situation definitely so.
Yeah, the Aramco sponsorship was sadly a stepping stone to that:/ And am not happy with staying undefeated vs Porto, VAR overturned a penalty/red card :puke: Weather predictions so far says only Saturday is dry this whole week, btw. |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 20, 2020 20:20:06 GMT
Yeah, the Aramco sponsorship was sadly a stepping stone to that:/ And am not happy with staying undefeated vs Porto, VAR overturned a penalty/red card :puke: Weather predictions so far says only Saturday is dry this whole week, btw. yep. the second i saw those aramco banners i knew we were soon for a race. we're likely only a couple of seasons away i think from regular premier league, la liga, serie a matches being hosted in saudi arabia (5-6 a season, not every weekend). sports diplomany is MBS's big thing - by which he means, they'll pay you hunners of millions and you'll put on a show - for improving the country's image now that the oil is drying up.
the only coverage i've seen of the game was a 4 minute highlights package on youtube, sans commentary, that completely omitted that! fucking daft.
happy days. i can tolerate a dry qualifying if it means a wet race! will hopefully be a good one.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 21, 2020 18:48:51 GMT
oh no, no not george
for all the rep that red bull have for dropping drivers, mercedes being unable to keep wehrlein then ocon and now potentially russell in F1 is concerning. they also had nothing for heidfeld (though in fairness, at the other end of his career), sam bird, paul di resta and james calado.
russell's second season hasn't been as good, great, as we'd maybe have expected but the lad deserves to be there. if he's punted, i *sincerely* hope that mercedes keep him in a car racing full time next year and keep him in race shape to fill a mercedes seat when the time comes (presumably 2022, 2023 at the latest?)
i suppose doritos need cash and if you need a driver withcash, you could do far far worse than sergio perez so i don't blame them for wanting to pursue them.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 22, 2020 16:57:46 GMT
oh no, no not george for all the rep that red bull have for dropping drivers, mercedes being unable to keep wehrlein then ocon and now potentially russell in F1 is concerning. they also had nothing for heidfeld (though in fairness, at the other end of his career), sam bird, paul di resta and james calado. russell's second season hasn't been as good, great, as we'd maybe have expected but the lad deserves to be there. if he's punted, i *sincerely* hope that mercedes keep him in a car racing full time next year and keep him in race shape to fill a mercedes seat when the time comes (presumably 2022, 2023 at the latest?) i suppose doritos need cash and if you need a driver withcash, you could do far far worse than sergio perez so i don't blame them for wanting to pursue them. But taking Russell doesn't guarantee cheaper engines? Of course that can be mitigated by two pay drivers. If Sauber retains Giovinazzi Cheat Jr. might go to Haas instead, and they'll have two rookies. Which is just perfect for their model (not). |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 22, 2020 18:22:59 GMT
big fan of alex albon but from now on i will be pushing the kevin magnusssen to red bull line of thought.
at the very least, with frozen regulations and a championship they clearly won't win, in a lame duck year at that, it'd be entertaining to have a team try to contain magnussen and verstappen. fwiw, magnussen could well be a more consistent podium threat than albon and he'd be plenty racey :p
But taking Russell doesn't guarantee cheaper engines? Of course that can be mitigated by two pay drivers. If Sauber retains Giovinazzi Cheat Jr. might go to Haas instead, and they'll have two rookies. Which is just perfect for their model (not). in theory cheaper engines but since the PUs are limited to €15 million (might be $, can't mind) anyway and you could attract someone that'd bring in more than you'd lose buying full price units, you'd may as well. especially if you get a day driver like perez.
haas taking two rookies would be a warning sign for sure. at least if its mazepin you can be fairly sure that gene is either offloading the team or they will be getting paid handsomely. for the team though, if they can't figure out this car with drivers as techinically sharp as grosjean and magnussen, what hope will they have?
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Post by Bartman on Oct 22, 2020 21:29:32 GMT
watching last week's WSB from estoril and, to be extremely parochial, i think it's completely fair to argue that lewis hamilton won't be the most impressive british motor racer of the year - johnny rea won his 6th straight world title and is 1 race win shy of a century. the lad came close to winning sports personality of the year a couple of years back and i think this year his shout is even better.
plus, elfyn evans is looking good in the world rally championship too for toyota.
all of this success for english, welsh and (northern) irish racers...feels like since 2013 and mcnish and franchitti retired we've been at a loss for successful scottish drivers in top series. di resta has been fucking great in lmp2s this year but no one notices them. johnny adam, from fife, is on the verge of winning GTE AM in wec at least but that isn't officially a world championship, iirc :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 24, 2020 13:20:43 GMT
What a shitshow :(
Loose drain covers, slow vehicle removals, and tomorrow guaranteed rain...beautiful.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 24, 2020 16:06:59 GMT
at least it's going to rain...
are any of the support series going or is the F1 race the sole attraction?
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 24, 2020 18:26:11 GMT
at least it's going to rain... are any of the support series going or is the F1 race the sole attraction? There were GT races and prototypes today, not sure about tomorrow. If it doesn't rain, multiple pitstops pl0x! Mediums faster than soft :p |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 24, 2020 19:55:04 GMT
There were GT races and prototypes today, not sure about tomorrow. If it doesn't rain, multiple pitstops pl0x! Mediums faster than soft :p niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. local/national series?
that'd be nice! i didn't catch any of the practice sessions, what are the race runs looking like? there was some fear that it'd be like sochi and there'd be no deg, one stop, little passing. mediums fast than the softs is interesting!
how is the facility?
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 24, 2020 21:22:59 GMT
There were GT races and prototypes today, not sure about tomorrow. If it doesn't rain, multiple pitstops pl0x! Mediums faster than soft :p niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. local/national series?
that'd be nice! i didn't catch any of the practice sessions, what are the race runs looking like? there was some fear that it'd be like sochi and there'd be no deg, one stop, little passing. mediums fast than the softs is interesting!
how is the facility?
The track doesn't seem to be rubbering in, so no proper warming-up the tyres and changes to the wind seem to have too much of an effect. Both Mercedes decided to go for Mediums in Q3, but hey, if it rains tomorrow it's all immaterial. I dread too many cars going off and massive delays with the slow marshalls:/ I'm only going tomorrow so I'll let you know about the facilities:p |
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Post by Bartman on Oct 25, 2020 13:20:48 GMT
what the fuck is happening
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Post by Bartman on Oct 25, 2020 13:24:45 GMT
RIP CARLOS SAINZ JR'S LEAD: LAP 1 - 6
WE WILL NEVER FORGET
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Post by Bartman on Oct 25, 2020 13:33:55 GMT
at this point, and by watching gasly take the piss out of abody today, i think moving to alphatauri would be a promotion for albon :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 26, 2020 1:27:31 GMT
Mate, the cars and the liveries are goooooorgeous live. Really. Almost makes up for them sounding like vacuum cleaning motorcycles :p
Comrade Kimi and George deserved points today. Ocon in full Perez mode, and awesome stuff from Gasly and Sergio. (And Sharl I guess).
DRS too OP?
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Post by Bartman on Oct 29, 2020 23:55:11 GMT
Mate, the cars and the liveries are goooooorgeous live. Really. Almost makes up for them sounding like vacuum cleaning motorcycles :p Comrade Kimi and George deserved points today. Ocon in full Perez mode, and awesome stuff from Gasly and Sergio. (And Sharl I guess). DRS too OP? you got a cracking race, man! so glad that you got to see a cracker and saw comrade kimi put on one of the best first laps in recent memory!
i hadn't thought about the liveries irl, that's really cool to know! was there a favourite one in particular? the red on the sauber alfas strikes me as looking particularly nice live.
you know, the DRS probably was a bit OP but i don't think it really harmed the race a great deal. some passes were a bit easy but the track was forgiving enough that if a pass was marginal the car being passed could fight back for half of the next lap. i wouldn't say that DRS made the race better but it didn't feel as big a negative as usual.
it's good that kimi is confirmed for next year but after that, it'd be criminal if perez and russell are off the grid next year. outstanding performances. i saw that gasly has a year extension at alphatauri, maybe renault will be ready for him come 2022... :p stroll and kvyat were abysmal and albon and seb weren't great; all time performances by hamilton, kimi, russell, perez, gasly, sharl, sainz...i would not complain if they went back there!
imola this weekend!
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 30, 2020 13:08:12 GMT
Yeah, close racing and cars following each other in the middle sector, even the last corner, wasn't expecting that! Kim's lap was God-tier.
I really like the Mercedes livery but it doesn't translate well live, all those tiny stars on the engine cover make it seem a bit...too much? I was surprised I didn't like the pink Panthers and Ferrari as much live, Renault and McLaren were ace, as was the predominantly white Williams livery. It's very glossy and the two shades of blue go very well. The Toro Rosso also looks much better live. And the Red Bull is very nice, which I didn't think I would be saying since it's the same every year.
I was on the final corner, which was flat out so sadly I didn't get to see the difference in car performance. In a place like Silverstone I assume you can see which cars are planted, which are a handful. Overall it goes by faster and is busier than watching a football game live :p
Though unless someone goes off in front of you you can't really go bananas and vent and shout and insult the opposition's forward for missing a sitter. :p
Sauber retains Giovinazzi -_-
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Post by Bartman on Oct 31, 2020 21:46:19 GMT
Yeah, close racing and cars following each other in the middle sector, even the last corner, wasn't expecting that! Kim's lap was God-tier. I really like the Mercedes livery but it doesn't translate well live, all those tiny stars on the engine cover make it seem a bit...too much? I was surprised I didn't like the pink Panthers and Ferrari as much live, Renault and McLaren were ace, as was the predominantly white Williams livery. It's very glossy and the two shades of blue go very well. The Toro Rosso also looks much better live. And the Red Bull is very nice, which I didn't think I would be saying since it's the same every year. I was on the final corner, which was flat out so sadly I didn't get to see the difference in car performance. In a place like Silverstone I assume you can see which cars are planted, which are a handful. Overall it goes by faster and is busier than watching a football game live :p Though unless someone goes off in front of you you can't really go bananas and vent and shout and insult the opposition's forward for missing a sitter. :p Sauber retains Giovinazzi -_- aye, i was surprised that they were able to follow so well through the last corner! the ELMS are racing there tomorrow so i'll mind to check and see how the prototypes and GT cars manage through there vs how the F1 cars did.
i think i've watched the onboard of kimi's lap three times every day since last sunday. insane.
that's interesting about the liveries. the mercedes one seems almost made for television, perhaps? whereas the williams and the minardi liveries look a bit dull on screen but in person they really pop. cool!
you at least got to see some cool wheel-to-wheel racing! what was the sensation like when they passed? i know that you wouldn't have been right up close and i know that they sound like vaccum cleaners but was there, like, a feeling of awe? i can't explain it very well - the first time i ever went to knockhill, the first on track action that i saw was a practice session for the porsche cup and even out/in laps it was breathtaking seeing them go by. i appreciate that i was 8 then but i still remember the feeling of excitement and awe of seeing racing cars on a track.
hahaha, aye, there's a little less engagement with the sport when you're at the track vs at the football pitch or hockey rink. you forget sometimes that the crowd won't be as partisan and won't necessarily share your favourite driver/hated driver :p although ford71V8 might be able to shed light, with the ford vs GM rivalry being so ingrained within the australian motor culture, is there a partisan feeling at the track? like, ford fans will vocally cheer ford cars when they pass regardless if they are doing anything spectacular and boo/jeer GM cars for the same?
i'm glad that you enjoyed the race though. like i said, hopefully there's another one in the not distant future!
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hopefully soon m8!
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