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Post by Bartman on Sept 12, 2020 21:04:49 GMT
When Mercedes and Alpine pull out they'll have to scramble to remove the bloody rule and get someone else in. Daft bastards. hahaha, yep, when mercedes finish 5th in 2022 i don't see management wanting to stick around too. kind of like honda after 2008 before the regulation change even after they'd accidentally designed the best car, bmw and toyota after one year into the regs in 2009, renault after another year in 2010... it's such a fucking short sighted rule.
if i've a spare hundred-odd million kicking around and want to enter motorsport as a privateer, LMP1/hypercar is literally the only class left - LMP2 is a closed shop; GTE is factory only; GT3, indycar, super formula, F2 & 3, DTM, NASCAR etc are all spec or near enough formula where experience is most important but even then, the races themselves are so regulated that there isn't much you can do creatively. you could maybe get away with racing in super gt and stick a V10 ex-jaguar F1 engine inside a prius but even there the chances for creativity are decreasing between DTM forcing its own broken regulations on GT500 and the FIA pushing GT3 on GT300. at least with the new top le mans class rules you get to design a chassis and have relative freedom with engine choice. and you don't have to pay zak brown for the privilege!
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Post by Bartman on Sept 13, 2020 13:21:08 GMT
people have had worse grand prix than max had today. not many right enough.
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 13, 2020 13:24:42 GMT
The stewards want to investigate that?  |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 13, 2020 13:50:58 GMT
that onboard from the sainz car :|
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 13, 2020 13:55:59 GMT
Giovinazzi doing 260km/h before he gets to the green flag and the cars ahead are still slow :|
Total guesswork from him, Latifa and Sainz, completely n00b stuff.
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 13, 2020 13:57:39 GMT
Hamilton botches a start for once, so of course there's a second one. This guy gets all the luck.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 13, 2020 14:14:49 GMT
hamilton is the equivalent of man u under fergie or celtic in the scottish competition :p all aboard the official alex albon podium hype train boys Giovinazzi doing 260km/h before he gets to the green flag and the cars ahead are still slow :| Total guesswork from him, Latifa and Sainz, completely n00b stuff. i think there needs to be a more formalised restart procedure "the leader decides" is often a bit vague for my liking. at the same time, aye, pinging into the field at 260kph is noob level behaviour and they need to get wise. |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 13, 2020 14:48:07 GMT
all aboard the valtteri bottas victory hype train
the fuck happened to stroll there?
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Post by Bartman on Sept 16, 2020 10:27:36 GMT
rip cota  (not yet but i suspect not far)
one of the best sports car and touring car tracks around today, unfortunately they don't attract f1 levels of investment and support.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 16, 2020 18:10:10 GMT
indycar are running a street circuit in nashville next year. the track looks to be somewhat between the hanoi circuit and valencia and...oulton park :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 17, 2020 3:45:44 GMT
That's a big ladle.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 17, 2020 15:01:06 GMT
getting up to third and then being set airborne across the track is peak-second stint at mclaren alonso :p
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Post by ford71V8 on Sept 18, 2020 4:14:06 GMT
Keep an eye out this October 
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Post by Bartman on Sept 18, 2020 21:56:00 GMT
Keep an eye out this October
although scott is a kiwi, i think that in the spirit of things they should revive the old team australia colours from the champcar days:
plus, penske already have former team aus alums pagenaud & power!
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Post by Bartman on Sept 18, 2020 22:13:34 GMT
seeing today that peugeot have announced their full time return to prototype racing for the 2022 endurance season. i'm thinking that this perhaps might set the tone of the F1 transfer market in the year or so to come. grosjean, to me, seems like a pretty good shout to land at peugeot (or alpine, as they are signing up too). he's got previous and when he doesn't crash the boy can go and manage a car well, even in adverse conditions - see the last grand prix. one of the drives of the season. it might also be a place for hulkenberg to land and even someone without sports car experience like perez or magnussen or vettel down the line. depending on how many cars they field - i would assume 2 - that's 6-8 spots that need filled. peugeot can obviously take from the old gang - ant davidson, sebastien bourdais, marc gene, simon pagenaud, nico lapierre etc - but a manufacturer re-entering the highest division of prototype racing is worth keeping an eye out for. with alpine it is a little less clear because it isn't yet known how serious this programme is. it's entering as an LMP1 team, rather than hypercar, next season and it's expected that it'll be an oreca-gibson like rebellion have used the past few years. they could use a hybrid powertrain if they wish, it isn't as if renault don't have years of experience with hybrid power now, and maybe they will later in the season. it might be a one year programme and it'll be back to running in LMP2 (or whatever it'll be known as) in 2022, it might be a prelude to a full programme as a factory effort from renault in sports car racing again. maybe a nice job for ocon or alonso or the chinese guy if they disappoint :p www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/alpine-expands-endurance-racing-efforts-lmp1-2021(i suppose, to what we were saying about the penske line up, ford71V8 , this might be how penske get out of running a full-time 4 car team in indycar; if pagenaud does return to peugeot for 2022, they can run scott part-time in 2021 to acclimatise him, and when pagenaud leaves that will be the scott mclaughlin car alongside newgarden and, probably, power  ) |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 22, 2020 13:35:23 GMT
rip cota (not yet but i suspect not far)
one of the best sports car and touring car tracks around today, unfortunately they don't attract f1 levels of investment and support.
stop the mourning, cota is (maybe) BACK:
nascar going to fucking COTA is the thing i have been waiting for all these years
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 22, 2020 17:13:31 GMT
Interested to learn how stock cars take the long right hander in the final sector vs. a current generation F1 car for which it is barely a corner :p
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Post by Bartman on Sept 22, 2020 19:08:28 GMT
Interested to learn how stock cars take the long right hander in the final sector vs. a current generation F1 car for which it is barely a corner :p hahaahahaha i'm expecting them just to keep going at the end of the long straight
i've given CoTA a go on project cars 2 in a stock car before, bear in mind i am playing with a controller and terrible at all post-F1 97 racing games, but dearie me, it is not easy! you almost have to sail the car through the corner, very little acceleration.
actually,and this might be of interest to ford71V8 as well, someone uploaded a video from a promotional day at the track from 2013, with kurt busch and james courtney doing a ride swap. obviously, the performance of the stock car won't be representative because it's a promo session and because i don't know if james courtney had ever driven a stock car before but it's interesting to see anyway:
it seems to have big problems in the last sector but otherwise i am pleasantly surprised by how a stock car runs there. a lot of the problems will go away with the 2021 regs too and moving to a 6 speed gearbox. going off the throttle with about 500m left of that straight to make the corner was a sight though :p
i'll add the video of kurt busch in the supercar too for comparison:
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Post by Bartman on Sept 22, 2020 23:15:45 GMT
huh jead todt leading the fia and domenicalli leading F1, i guess ferrari will always be in charge  |
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 23, 2020 17:03:15 GMT
I always liked that guy, from the "newer" batch of team principals probably the most likeable and straightforward.
But I don't like this appointment. Liberty hasn't done everything right, of course, but having an outsider/someone from their ranks like Chase Carey around is much needed. This will only close the shop around the old boys paddock club again.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 23, 2020 18:58:04 GMT
I always liked that guy, from the "newer" batch of team principals probably the most likeable and straightforward. But I don't like this appointment. Liberty hasn't done everything right, of course, but having an outsider/someone from their ranks like Chase Carey around is much needed. This will only close the shop around the old boys paddock club again. he was the innocent vicitm of the marchionne/di montezemelo conflict and of alonso's (public) frustrations. i always liked him too but under him the team definitely declined, or at least stagnated but i don't know how much of it was of his making - the post-todt/brawn/byrne team was always going to be different, once you consider the corporate situation, the outside world situation and driver situation over those years, he didn't have the best of situations to work within.
i don't hate the appointment because i think domenicali has enough integrity to not run an old boys club but i agree that i'd be more enthusiastic about someone entirely from the outside - he has the indycar series now but someone like roger penske would've been perfect for this. i do worry about it being a closed shop though, especially after that $200 million fee to enter the series was brought in, given his involvement with FOTA when that was a thing (though, in fairness, i think that that was more of a di montezemelo project). this could be start of something good though, i suppose we'll have to see.
we might get audi/lambo/vw generally into f1 now, seeing as he works there too :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 23, 2020 19:31:49 GMT
I thought VW wanted to get rid of Lambo, hence why Stefano is free for this new job?
I almost wrote sinecure 😅
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Post by Bartman on Sept 23, 2020 20:02:15 GMT
zak brown on midweek motorsports the now saying he wants to enter and sell mclaren prototypes to race in the WEC/le mans. that might be interesting if the new regs attract plenty of interest/manufacturers/privateers, certainly opens some jobs up. I thought VW wanted to get rid of Lambo, hence why Stefano is free for this new job? I almost wrote sinecure 😅 i have wondered that for several years now, what exactly is he doing at lambo
it must be nice to know enough folk in high places that will just hand you money to attend a meeting every so often
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Post by Bartman on Sept 26, 2020 0:11:22 GMT
watched the WTCR race at the nurburgring earlier and it makes me want to thank whomever decided to schedule a grand prix there for mid-autumn because the weather factor will be fun! admittedly they raced on the full circuit, the race ws only 3 laps, but the weather seemed to change a handful of times every lap. it was never full on rain but it was sprinkling it seemed on one side of the circuit and golden sunshine on the other. over 70 laps of the grand prix circuit, in mid-october, should surely be enough time for 4-5 changes of weather
re nurburgring, an interesting chart posted by a spanish commentator measuring fan responses/ratings to races. in the given period, 2008-2019, the nurburgring is far and away the most popular/has provided the best racing. admittedly there's only been 3 races in that time, so probably the lowest sample there could be, but those three races were all excellent for different reasons - webber's first win in '09 after a drive through penalty; hamilton vs webber vs alonso, with a sub plot of vettel vs massa, plus weather in 2011; 2013 was dry but had the lotuses vs red bull, kimi chasing seb down at the end.
the rest of the top 6 are CoTA, silverstone, interlagos, bahrain and red bull ring which seems to align well with their reputations for being circuits that encourage good racing. hopefully nurburgring earns its way back onto the calendar - waive the sanctioning fees if they have to!
sochi, paul ricard and valencia perhaps unsurprisingly occupying the minardi/spyker/caterham positions on the grid - even though that last valencia race was an all timer :p
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Post by Bartman on Sept 27, 2020 11:16:16 GMT
more things happened in 4 corners at sochi there than in the previous 6 years :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 27, 2020 20:11:29 GMT
more things happened in 4 corners at sochi there than in the previous 6 years :p Shame about the F2 race being cut short. (Cheating Jr. is going to luck into the championship 😔 ) The weather was grand, I would have moved F1 accordingly. I can't understand the decision of rescinding Hamilton's penalty points. He is an active participant, he should know the rules and not follow his team bad decision. |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 27, 2020 22:49:11 GMT
Shame about the F2 race being cut short. (Cheating Jr. is going to luck into the championship 😔 ) The weather was grand, I would have moved F1 accordingly. I can't understand the decision of rescinding Hamilton's penalty points. He is an active participant, he should know the rules and not follow his team bad decision. all i saw of the F2 race was the ghiotto/aitken crash, what was the situation with the weather? schumacher jr is a fine, decent driver but lots of lots of drivers are decent and win F2 - you all know how much i love him, but jolyon palmer was more than decent in GP2 and was thoroughly unspectacular in F1 (palmer had a lot against him in F1 but i think that even if he had a fair shot at it; he'd still be at best a decent midfield runner), gionvanazzi was regularly as strong as gasly in 2016;; rio haryanto beat mitch evans, alex lynn, pierre gasly...
i know that there is obvious reasons to rush mick into F1 but if i am ferrari - and indeed if i am alfa - i would rather have shwartzmann or ilott at the moment. let mick develop further.
fucking cowardice from the FIA. like you say, he has agency in the car and he should know the rules - plus it's lewis fucking hamilton, if he's unsure about a situation he's been put into, he doesn't exactly have to worry about losing his seat or being disciplined - mercedes don't have pedro de la rosa or mika salo or sakon yamamoto on stand-by just in case he and toto have a falling out.
what is €25,000 to a company that has spent more than €1,000,000,000 in F1 over the past 7-8 years? potentially losing hamilton is much more costly and more likely to encourage conservative behaviour.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 27, 2020 22:55:58 GMT
i'll post a link when a video is posted but the third race today's BTCC round on the silverstone national circuit is what we could've had for the 70th anniversary grand prix had the FIA not been a bunch of geeks.
the live timing on the side of the screen stopped working at one point because there was too much overtaking, cars going 4 wide down the wellington straight, lads drifting from 3rd to 10th to 5th over a handful of corners. and to top it off, a jobber driver won the thing (from commentary: "ollie jackson is very serious, takes his driving seriously but likes to have fun with it...")
true, it was the partial reverse grid race and a lot of cars had success ballast but what a delight it was after that sochi parade.
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Post by forgotten in space on Sept 27, 2020 23:08:29 GMT
i'll post a link when a video is posted but the third race today's BTCC round on the silverstone national circuit is what we could've had for the 70th anniversary grand prix had the FIA not been a bunch of geeks. the live timing on the side of the screen stopped working at one point because there was too much overtaking, cars going 4 wide down the wellington straight, lads drifting from 3rd to 10th to 5th over a handful of corners. and to top it off, a jobber driver won the thing (from commentary: "ollie jackson is very serious, takes his driving seriously but likes to have fun with it...") true, it was the partial reverse grid race and a lot of cars had success ballast but what a delight it was after that sochi parade. the F1 live timing breaks down for absolutely nothing, imagine for nonstop overtaking. |
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Post by Bartman on Sept 27, 2020 23:21:00 GMT
the F1 live timing breaks down for absolutely nothing, imagine for nonstop overtaking. hahaha fuck, could you imagine if that was ever the case?! maybe on the outer loop at bahrain...
there was a problem with the distance counter during the world cycling championships today - the clock kept going from 28km to 70km to 45km back to 28k and didn't really resolve itself until the last 20km. it was strange because they were doing laps, so in theory it shouldn't be hard to give a resaonably accurate measurement...
the circuit started and ended on the imola grand prix circuit. that's fine, grand. but they travelled in the opposite direction from how the cars/bikes do and it was really disorientating whenever they'd loop back round to the track, all of my reference points were wrong: coming out of tamburello onto the pit straight is just wrong :p
the run down to aquae minerali is much steeper than i originally thought it was!
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