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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 22:55:04 GMT
That was a fun video.
Lars killed that double bass part.
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 0:40:26 GMT
Yeah, great video!
Nice gif too. : D When James did that last move it reminded me of what Lars looks like when he's "instructing" Kirk on his soloing.
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Post by Kimbo on Aug 25, 2017 9:37:29 GMT
That was a fun video. Lars killed that double bass part. Yeah but look at his technique, he will not be able to play like that for many more years. It's looks almost painful and it's pretty clear why he have to skip so many db parts when they play live |
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 11:04:27 GMT
That was a fun video. Lars killed that double bass part. Yeah but look at his technique, he will not be able to play like that for many more years. It's looks almost painful and it's pretty clear why he have to skip so many db parts when they play live What would you say he should change compared to how he plays now to be able to play more/longer db parts? |
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Post by Kimbo on Aug 25, 2017 12:19:54 GMT
Yeah but look at his technique, he will not be able to play like that for many more years. It's looks almost painful and it's pretty clear why he have to skip so many db parts when they play live What would you say he should change compared to how he plays now to be able to play more/longer db parts? Everything  Nah I actually really like Lars' way of drumming, he hits hard and gives it all, I kinda play the same way at times. But when you have to play a two hour show it's pretty important to conserve energy. Lars does this by simplifying the shit out of songs and leave a lot of stuff out. It's hard to say what he should do/should have done years ago, but I think simple changes like switching to lighter sticks, raising his throne, smaller shoes etc would make a difference in his overall drumming. Then comes his footwork on the pedals which is atrocious to look at, they way he hits, how he uses his wrists, shoulders and stuff like that. I've never understood why nobody have ever said anything straight to his face, maybe everybody around him are yes men, or maybe nobody dares. But it would all be in his own best interest, it would serve him better in the long run and it would serve the songs as he would be able to play them better. Then again, maybe he just doesn't care anymore. Well that ended out a lot longer than I intended |
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Aug 25, 2017 12:37:48 GMT
What would you say he should change compared to how he plays now to be able to play more/longer db parts? Everything Nah I actually really like Lars' way of drumming, he hits hard and gives it all, I kinda play the same way at times. But when you have to play a two hour show it's pretty important to conserve energy. Lars does this by simplifying the shit out of songs and leave a lot of stuff out. It's hard to say what he should do/should have done years ago, but I think simple changes like switching to lighter sticks, raising his throne, smaller shoes etc would make a difference in his overall drumming. Then comes his footwork on the pedals which is atrocious to look at, they way he hits, how he uses his wrists, shoulders and stuff like that. I've never understood why nobody have ever said anything straight to his face, maybe everybody around him are yes men, or maybe nobody dares. But it would all be in his own best interest, it would serve him better in the long run and it would serve the songs as he would be able to play them better. Then again, maybe he just doesn't care anymore. Well that ended out a lot longer than I intended
The '89 drum cam video. You can see how awkward and close he is to everything, but it works, but I think nowadays it might not be to his advantage.
Right here, look at where is feet are positioned. Goddamn. I mean it's not a wrong way, but sound wise, you don't get a powerful lively sound.
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Post by SicJes on Aug 25, 2017 13:49:51 GMT
It just kills me that there are little kids who have better technical skills. You watch other people play and they barely move while doing all this crazy shit. They seem calm and focused and you hear the difference. Lars plays NEM and he looks like he's straining.
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Post by Guest on Aug 25, 2017 13:57:19 GMT
Meh, whatever...sounds good to me! I don't think the average non-musical person can tell the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 14:03:24 GMT
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Post by BMus1 on Aug 25, 2017 14:23:44 GMT
HOLY CRAP, I had no clue Lars used to have his toms THAT close to him. That looks uncomfortable.
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 14:58:33 GMT
What would you say he should change compared to how he plays now to be able to play more/longer db parts? Everything Nah I actually really like Lars' way of drumming, he hits hard and gives it all, I kinda play the same way at times. But when you have to play a two hour show it's pretty important to conserve energy. Lars does this by simplifying the shit out of songs and leave a lot of stuff out. It's hard to say what he should do/should have done years ago, but I think simple changes like switching to lighter sticks, raising his throne, smaller shoes etc would make a difference in his overall drumming. Then comes his footwork on the pedals which is atrocious to look at, they way he hits, how he uses his wrists, shoulders and stuff like that. I've never understood why nobody have ever said anything straight to his face, maybe everybody around him are yes men, or maybe nobody dares. But it would all be in his own best interest, it would serve him better in the long run and it would serve the songs as he would be able to play them better. Then again, maybe he just doesn't care anymore. Well that ended out a lot longer than I intended I actually think he knows that his technique isn't that good, but probably feels it's "good enough" nowadays this far into their career. I don't think he feels it's important to him (at least not anymore if ever) to be seen as a great drummer but rather that he's good enough to his own standards and is able to physically make it through shows. |
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
Meh, whatever...sounds good to me! I don't think the average non-musical person can tell the difference. I think this discussion doesn't primarily have to do with what sounds good and not but rather that we want Lars to be able to play the songs and get through shows for as many more years as physically possible, and he'd probably be able to play for more years than he will be able to now if he had a better technique. |
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Post by Guest on Aug 25, 2017 15:05:04 GMT
Yeah, he's said multiple times that he knows he's not a good drummer (technically) but his drumming style meshes perfectly with James's playing style and that's all that matters.
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 15:06:03 GMT
Yeah, he's said multiple times that he knows he's not a good drummer (technically) but his drumming style meshes perfectly with James's playing style and that's all that matters. See my post above yours.  |
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Post by Guest on Aug 25, 2017 15:07:33 GMT
Meh, whatever...sounds good to me! I don't think the average non-musical person can tell the difference. I think this discussion doesn't primarily have to do with what sounds good and not bur rather that we want Lars to be able to play the songs and get through shows for as many more years as physically possible, and he'd probably be able to play for more years than he will be able to now if he had a better technique. It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks. If he's been playing however he plays for this long...I wouldn't expect him to change anytime soon. |
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Post by lightning master on Aug 25, 2017 15:09:31 GMT
I think this discussion doesn't primarily have to do with what sounds good and not bur rather that we want Lars to be able to play the songs and get through shows for as many more years as physically possible, and he'd probably be able to play for more years than he will be able to now if he had a better technique. It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks. If he's been playing however he plays for this long...I wouldn't expect him to change anytime soon. Yeah, me neither. : / |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 1:34:02 GMT
Do you guys think there are too many mid tempo songs on this album?
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Post by ModerusPrime on Sept 11, 2017 21:10:19 GMT
Lars is a pretty short guy with short arms. The only bad thing I saw was how far up his feet are on the pedal. He was hitting the middle of the snare drum with his arm at a natural angle so it doesn't seem he's sitting too close, especially since there's a pretty good size gap between his snare and his crotch. I'd say he sits about two inches too low.
When it comes to musicians, it's not hard at all to learn new tricks. That's just plain stupid to believe that they don't. Just listening to Lars from 2003 to now you can tell he's learned new tricks.
I think the ratio of slow/mid/fast songs on an album is irrelevant. As long as they're good songs I'm happy.
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Post by Kimbo on Sept 11, 2017 21:49:08 GMT
He is definitely too low
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Post by ModerusPrime on Sept 11, 2017 22:27:14 GMT
People tell me I sit too high lol. I play my best and get less fatigued though, so you just have to go with what feels right on the body. A lot of people say 90 degree leg angle is the best. I'd say I play at 75 degree or 80. At 90 I tend to hunch over. |
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Post by lightning master on Sept 11, 2017 22:39:53 GMT
I think the ratio of slow/mid/fast songs on an album is irrelevant. As long as they're good songs I'm happy. Do you feel the same way about track sequencing? |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Sept 11, 2017 22:56:32 GMT
I think the ratio of slow/mid/fast songs on an album is irrelevant. As long as they're good songs I'm happy. Do you feel the same way about track sequencing? No, but I'm glad the habit of putting the "filler" songs at the end died in the 90's. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 1:01:24 GMT
Do you feel the same way about track sequencing? No, but I'm glad the habit of putting the "filler" songs at the end died in the 90's. If you notice, there's more filler on CD 2 (ie ManUNkind/Murder One), it's a similar situation.  |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Sept 12, 2017 1:24:56 GMT
No, but I'm glad the habit of putting the "filler" songs at the end died in the 90's. If you notice, there's more filler on CD 2 (ie ManUNkind/Murder One), it's a similar situation. ManUnkind isn't filler. |
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Post by Kimbo on Sept 12, 2017 6:17:48 GMT
People tell me I sit too high lol. I play my best and get less fatigued though, so you just have to go with what feels right on the body. A lot of people say 90 degree leg angle is the best. I'd say I play at 75 degree or 80. At 90 I tend to hunch over. Yeah everybody have their own way of sitting so you can't really say if certain people are doing it wrong. I just can't see how he can feel comfortable like that, must be a bitch doing the faster pedal work. It hurts my entire lower body watching him play, I do think he have raised his stool a little over the last 10 years though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 11:53:19 GMT
If you notice, there's more filler on CD 2 (ie ManUNkind/Murder One), it's a similar situation. ManUnkind isn't filler. It's easily the worst song on the album. |
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Post by Kimbo on Sept 12, 2017 12:10:56 GMT
It's easily the worst song on the album. it's a tie with Atlas for me |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:35:24 GMT
It's easily the worst song on the album. it's a tie with Atlas for me Atlas is a bit mediocre but it's not bad imo, not sure ManUNkind/Murder One should've made the cut though. |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Sept 12, 2017 17:02:10 GMT
It's easily the worst song on the album. You're talking about Murder One, not ManUNkind. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 17:43:50 GMT
It's easily the worst song on the album. You're talking about Murder One, not ManUNkind. MurderUNkind actually. |
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