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Post by SeDelby on May 25, 2016 7:17:52 GMT
I play through the original Doom games every few years. There's nothing like them. The level design, the atmosphere, the fun - it's just an awesome original series.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 7:35:46 GMT
Point is old Doom, has to be BRUTAL. By Tomorrow I will have DOOM DL'd
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Post by Alan-P on May 25, 2016 7:46:11 GMT
Point is old Doom, has to be BRUTAL. By Tomorrow I will have DOOM DL'd I will have to watch a video of it. I forgot Brutal existed for a while there. I wish they ported Dark Forces... |
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Post by inaudiblewhisper on May 25, 2016 13:28:41 GMT
I bought the original DOOM on xbone BC last night, was only £3, and within 15 minutes I'm thinking "oh so it's the fun that's been missing from modern shooters " what a great game. I'll have to buy 2 now. Buy the new Doom. By most accounts the campaign is incredible and ignores the shit out of modern shooter design. |
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Post by Alan-P on May 25, 2016 13:43:18 GMT
I bought the original DOOM on xbone BC last night, was only £3, and within 15 minutes I'm thinking "oh so it's the fun that's been missing from modern shooters " what a great game. I'll have to buy 2 now. Buy the new Doom. By most accounts the campaign is incredible and ignores the shit out of modern shooter design. I intend to this week, hAVE A gAME GIFT CERTIGICATE TO USE UP |
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Post by Alan-P on May 25, 2016 15:38:18 GMT
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Post by Baba Yaga on May 25, 2016 15:49:49 GMT
Not looking so bad...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 1:57:18 GMT
It's looks pretty good but I'm really hating the art style.
Also played about eight hours of Total War: Warhammer today. Smoothest Total War launch by far, it's so good that they are finally 64 bit games and helps the performance so much. The different factions all feel great and the objectives/armies for each faction feel very unique. I'm not much of a Warhammer fan but it's really damn good. I am very interested to see which historical period the Total War goes to next. I'd like something in China but it looks like they are going to do another Medieval game. But if they go that route with this engine my life is over.
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Post by Alan-P on May 26, 2016 7:28:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 8:26:30 GMT
I'll take a PC upgrade.
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Post by Alan-P on May 26, 2016 8:45:02 GMT
Hope those ports get better  |
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Post by inaudiblewhisper on May 26, 2016 14:12:20 GMT
Hope those ports get better The vast majority of PC ports are really well optimised nowadays. That's why there's so much attention when something like Arkham Knight happens. I haven't played a single console port on PC that fails to run at 1080p/60fps (I haven't played Arkham Knight :p). Consoles are hardly the arbiter of stability/optimization/good ports (Fallout 4, Just Cause 3). |
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Post by Alan-P on May 26, 2016 14:19:25 GMT
Hope those ports get better The vast majority of PC ports are really well optimised nowadays. That's why there's so much attention when something like Arkham Knight happens. I haven't played a single console port on PC that fails to run at 1080p/60fps (I haven't played Arkham Knight :p). Consoles are hardly the arbiter of stability/optimization/good ports (Fallout 4, Just Cause 3). Watch Previously recorded's Quantum Break review video... those 0 fps drops |
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Post by inaudiblewhisper on May 26, 2016 14:41:03 GMT
Yes, bad ports occur on all hardware. But still when most games can run at 1080/60 on a mid-level (soon to be entry level) GPU, and most console games don't even attempt that level of performance, it's not an area to have a jab at PC as a console gamer.
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Post by Alan-P on May 26, 2016 14:48:24 GMT
Yes, bad ports occur on all hardware. But still when most games can run at 1080/60 on a mid-level (soon to be entry level) GPU, and most console games don't even attempt that level of performance, it's not an area to have a jab at PC as a console gamer. Calm your pant's it's just a sarcastic quip. |
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Post by inaudiblewhisper on May 26, 2016 15:36:19 GMT
Yes, bad ports occur on all hardware. But still when most games can run at 1080/60 on a mid-level (soon to be entry level) GPU, and most console games don't even attempt that level of performance, it's not an area to have a jab at PC as a console gamer. Calm your pant's it's just a sarcastic quip. Just because my posts aren't sprinkled with light sarcasm and emojis doesn't mean I'm not fucKING CALM GODDAMNIT!  Also I am just wasting my PC's power as I've just spent the last 2 months playing Minecraft. |
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Post by Alan-P on May 26, 2016 15:56:41 GMT
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Post by yepsure on May 28, 2016 4:16:26 GMT
OK, I have to get this rant out of my system.
Fuck I hate this console and game generation.
Since I re-purchased a 360 and a bunch of games about a month ago, I realise just how bad this generation is. 90% of my gaming now done on the older console because the majority of my time spent on the newer console is pure frustration. Let me describe a few typical scenarios on Xbox One:
1. I hit the Xbox logo on my XBOne controller. The console doesn't turn on, the light on the controller flashes. Fuck me. So I say "Xbox On" 3-4 times. It doesn't fucking work. So I get up and turn on the console manually. The controller light is still flashing. It's not paired with the console for some reason. So I try my second controller only to get the same result. So I hold down the 'pair" button on my controller and console. They don't pair. I repeat the process with my second controller. They don't pair. So I use the play and charge cord and finally I have a usable controller. This happens about 6-7 times out of 10. If I didn't have a Play and Charge cord I wouldn't be able to use my console more than 50% of the time.
2. So I go through that 10 mins of bullshit just to turn the console on. I fire up Rainbow 6 Siege. The game takes minutes to load. You get in, and invite 2 friends to your party, then into the game lobby/squad. It take about 1-2 minutes for one person to join, the second person get's an error "Unable to join squad". Fuck me. So we all back out of the lobby, and try to get another person to send invites. Now I can't join their squad. Jesus Christ. So we all quit the game back to the dashboard, and repeat the process. Same thing. So we all do hard restarts of our consoles, and eventually all get into the same lobby.
3. We then sit there, waiting for a match for sometimes up to 10 minutes. We get in, get instantly team killed by douchebags on our team and have to wait another 5-10 mins for a new round to start. Between all the waiting, team killing, and other bullshit, in about an hour of playing, you might get 10-15 minutes of actual game time. So I crack the shits, and say "I actually want to play a game" and load up Call of Duty.
4. Call of Duty Black Ops 3 takes a few minutes to load. Then it takes another few minutes to "Connect to online service". Then you get an error "Online service not available at this time" .Fuck me. So you try again and eventually get in.
5. For some reason, despite it's superior processing power, loading a match of CoD on Xbox One takes about twice as long as on 360. But you get in, realise the game is actually a broken piece of shit with awful hit detection and law compensation, and of course 12 year old campers with bright pink DLC weapon camps. So you rage quit.
6. For some reason, despite it's superior processing power, quitting a match of CoD on Xbox One takes about twice as long as on 360. But you repeat the process and eventually get a decent lobby and play some CoD. You end up playing with a couple of good players so you go to add them as a friend. For some reason, it takes about 3-4 minutes to try to load someones profile on Xbox One, so you get tired of looking at a spinning loading circle and just give up. Then you get disconnected from the Call of Duty online service. Fuck me. So you load up something like Doom or Mortal Kombat for some offline play.
7. For some reason, despite it's superior processing power and "always on" standby mode, unless you restart your console regularly, games run like shit, with jerkiness and dropped frames. So you have to do another hard restart of your console, only to end up with problem number 1 again. Fuck me.
8. So you resist the urge to launch your Xbox One and all it's peripherals off your balcony, hit the Xbox logo on your 360 controller, and within say about 30-45 seconds, you're playing a well made, well running, bug free, really smooth game of Call of Duty 2/4/WaW/Black Ops2/Skyrim/Mortal Kombat and have instantly fun for hours without any single moment of frustration.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 5:25:00 GMT
Playing games really is a chore these days. With being so busy in life, I am always excited to get on and game! Now I feel like instead of getting on and jumping into a game right away, I always have my phone handy and Google loaded because I'm either going to have to patch a game (patches are always fucking huge these days) OR I know that at some point I'm going to run into some fucked up bug that requires me to become some sort of technology expert to get fixed. By the time I get everything done I look at the clock and realize I have no time left to play.
It feels like the days of hopping on and playing a few quick games of something are long gone which to me is so fucking annoying. Games were an escape of mine, not something that feels like a part time job.
Not to mention that when you eventually get your game running the way you like it, the devs always seem to release a fucked up patch that breaks the game even further. It's one of the reasons I'm glad I have a PC. I will buy a game that I've researched and noticed it has a lot of mods so I know most of the problems will be ironed out because some person out there took the time to fix/improve something a developer was too lazy to get done.
I have noticed that most of the games I am spending time on these days are on the older side and ALWAYS have mod support and I NEVER buy games without reading tons of reviews and watching people play them. So tired of buying something that I can't even play.
Take Siege for example, I cannot even play it because of the shitty servers Ubisoft runs. And when I do end up getting into a game, 90% of the time I lose connection half way through it which makes me lose all my experience. I even emailed Ubisoft about it and they politely told me to go fuck myself for the most part. Now to play the game I have to use some sort of VPN which raises my ping to over 200 and makes the game unplayable. It pisses me off to no end.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 5:32:35 GMT
PC. Do it.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 5:36:37 GMT
Its the only thing I have now and I don't see myself ever getting a console again. I loved my 360 even though I went through FOUR of them because of the red ring of death. The PS3 was really good to me, even though I mostly just played MLB The Show on it because I'm a huge baseball fan and those games are so damn good. Being a PC gamer is just so much easier. Sure it's very expensive but if you invest in a good computer you can pretty much run anything for quite a few years. Not to mention there is none of the bullshit always online stuff, so I can just hop in and play a Total War game or something along those lines when my net is out. The only downfall to being a PC gamer is most people game on consoles so playing with friends is not as easy which is disappointing. But at the same time I deal with a lot less headaches than them when it comes to getting games working. Not to long ago a bunch of close friends and I went over to my brothers apartment to have some drinks and hang out while all of our ladies went out shopping. I picked up Mortal Kombat for all of us to play and fuck around on for the night (my brother has an XBone). So I get there and load the disk in and we are all excited to play and what do you know we have to do something (I think it downloaded the data onto the hard drive or something) to even fucking play. So we wait however long it took and by the time we got ready to play we are all drunk as fuck and didn't even feel like playing anymore. Can you not just put in a disk and play anymore? Like I said I don't own a console from this generation so I'm not sure exactly how it works. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 5:51:57 GMT
Consoles are cute. PC is reality.
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Post by yepsure on May 28, 2016 7:38:09 GMT
Its the only thing I have now and I don't see myself ever getting a console again. I loved my 360 even though I went through FOUR of them because of the red ring of death. The PS3 was really good to me, even though I mostly just played MLB The Show on it because I'm a huge baseball fan and those games are so damn good. Being a PC gamer is just so much easier. Sure it's very expensive but if you invest in a good computer you can pretty much run anything for quite a few years. Not to mention there is none of the bullshit always online stuff, so I can just hop in and play a Total War game or something along those lines when my net is out. The only downfall to being a PC gamer is most people game on consoles so playing with friends is not as easy which is disappointing. But at the same time I deal with a lot less headaches than them when it comes to getting games working. Not to long ago a bunch of close friends and I went over to my brothers apartment to have some drinks and hang out while all of our ladies went out shopping. I picked up Mortal Kombat for all of us to play and fuck around on for the night (my brother has an XBone). So I get there and load the disk in and we are all excited to play and what do you know we have to do something (I think it downloaded the data onto the hard drive or something) to even fucking play. So we wait however long it took and by the time we got ready to play we are all drunk as fuck and didn't even feel like playing anymore. Can you not just put in a disk and play anymore? Like I said I don't own a console from this generation so I'm not sure exactly how it works. I grew up with PC and console gaming and around the PS2/original Xbox generation I started to go off gaming...despite owning both consoles, I was bored. Then the 360 generation came around with games like CoD2 and CoD4 - it was amazing how easy it was to play amazing looking games online with friends. Party up, throw a disc in, hit A a couple of times, and you're playing online. So much fun. The appeal was how effortless it was, and how great and deep the gameplay had become, even for online shooters. You didn't worry about drivers, installation, O/S compatibility, frame rates, video cards, CPU's, RAM. There was never a reason to go back to PC gaming and dealing with all the BS that went along with it. (I was a pre-Steam PC gamer) when we had great console alternatives. With this generation of consoles, we've gone about 5 steps backward. It's no longer instant fun. It's actually barley fun at all. As you experienced, all games now need to install before you can play them. For some reason, this can take over an hour. Literally every single game I have bought on Xbox One has had a day one patch, so games ship incomplete, and as part of the installation, you had to download 1-2gb update to play them. Combine that with all the problems I detailed above you have to wonder what is actually the point of owning one of these things? With the news/rumours of incremental hardware updates to this generation of consoles, they are now more like PC's than ever. With the simplicity and reliability being taken away, it's actually makes a lot of sense to move to PC as a primary gaming platform, or do what I have now done, which is revert back to last gen for my primary source of gaming. The games themselves were of such a higher quality last gen as well - they were shipped complete, with small incremental tweaks released post launch. They were deeper, yet simpler, more engaging and with higher replay value. Micro transactions and the "pay to win" components of games weren't a thing yet (well maybe towards the end of the generation) - DLC were actual additions to the game not components that should have shipped with the full game. Current gen has been a frustrating painful mess that I have been complaining about since I first got an Xbox One back at launch. I just wish I was smart enough to recognise the value in keeping my superior 360 and the library of games I owned instead of selling it all. Now that I'm back on 360, it makes the frustrations and pain points of current gen so much more obvious. |
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Post by Alan-P on May 28, 2016 7:40:02 GMT
Sounds like your Xbox is fucked. I've not had any of that
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 8:03:40 GMT
Man I played through the Call of Duty: United Offesnsive campaign again a couple of months back. What a great game. I still remember playing the demo where you had to hold the line in the battle of the bulge. What great games those early Call of Duty's were. Yepsure you are sending me on a nostalgia trip.
I wonder if anyone still plays the Forgotten Hope mod for Battlfield 1942? That was another game that was a huge part of growing up. Do you guys remember just how amazing it was when that game first came out? Such a game changer.
Also, The Division has been adding a lot of free content and the newest update is actually pretty good. Sadly it should have been this way on release but I'm glad they are adding all of this stuff for free and listening to the community.
Everyone is freaking out about the new Ghost Recon game but the character models and gear that we have seem SCREAM that it's a copy and paste of The Division but with a different setting. I may actually enjoy it more though because the biggest problem with The Division for me is that being in a open world city tends to become a bit boring because everything is so similar. The enemies, the buildings, the snow which is EVERYWHERE just gets boring after a while. But like I said I respect the fact that we are getting very frequent free updates with lots of content.
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Post by yepsure on May 28, 2016 8:04:13 GMT
Sounds like your Xbox is fucked. I've not had any of that Everything but the controller pairing thing seems to pretty common/standard for Xbox One. |
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Post by General Smithers on May 28, 2016 9:09:19 GMT
To chime in with regards to old consoles being better: Why the fuck doesn't the PS4 controller just run on removable batteries like the old xbox 360 controller? I remember only having to change the batteries on the 360 controller like once a year. The PS4 controller needs to be recharged after about 5 hours of play. It doesn't help that it has energy sapping useless blue lights on it that are always on for no apparent reason as well. I never owned a PS3, just went straight from a 360 to a PS4 so I don't know if the PS3 controller was like that as well but it's fucking stupid. And compulsory updates for the system and games are way worse than previous generations too. The number of times I've organized with a friend to play a game only to find one of us hasn't got the most recent update and have to wait 2 hours to be able to play online is ridiculous. I'm glad I kept my 360.
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Post by yepsure on May 28, 2016 9:49:13 GMT
It was like that on PS3 as well, but the especially frustrating thing about it (PS4 controller) that I've heard from my PS4 mates, is that the charging cable is super short, so if you want to play while charging you have to sit smack bang in front of the TV like when we were 6 years old playing Atari.
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Post by Alan-P on May 28, 2016 9:51:06 GMT
Rechargeable controller is stupid.
I use rechargeable batteries, that's where it's at.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 12:56:48 GMT
Between PC and WiiU I'm actually plenty satisfied with this generation or era of gaming. But I also don't play any of those first person shooters and never do any online play.
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