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Post by yepsure on Sept 28, 2019 0:14:21 GMT
Holy shit… Het back in rehab, tour postponed… don’t know what to say
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Sept 28, 2019 0:15:14 GMT
Shattered. I don't mind missing out, just hope that James gets better.
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Post by yepsure on Sept 28, 2019 0:27:35 GMT
To cancel a tour it must be bad. Really shocking considering how strong Het appeared publicly when talking about his addictions and recovery.
Some logistics to work out on a more selfish note... I’ve dropped a fair chunk of coin on this tour.
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Post by ford71V8 on Sept 28, 2019 0:29:05 GMT
Well of course its shit news about James and what the future may hold.
But yeah I mind missing out, absolutely I do. Lots of planning and money been poured into this tour.
Straight away the missus and I talking about when they might return. The boys note says they'll reschedule. Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves - you need a functioning band to hold a tour, so lets get that sorted first
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Post by ford71V8 on Sept 28, 2019 0:31:20 GMT
To cancel a tour it must be bad. Really shocking considering how strong Het appeared publicly when talking about his addictions and recovery. Some logistics to work out on a more selfish note... I’ve dropped a fair chunk of coin on this tour. Its OK to be selfish - a quick calc says I've put around $8k into this so far. Not pleased. THen there's the headfuck when new dates are announced and my Leave balance says no. And I cant see myself travelling around twice. What a shitshow
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Post by ford71V8 on Sept 28, 2019 0:32:20 GMT
And I dont wanna hand back my Black Ticket dammit!
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Post by yepsure on Sept 28, 2019 0:33:41 GMT
It’s pretty big if they are saying all tickets will be refunded. It’s not like its even rescheduled. It’s cancelled and they hope to come back someday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 0:34:45 GMT
This explains a lot about James not looking too well or energetic lately, and that vibe probably affecting the others too.
Probably wasn't a good idea to be selling Metallica beer and whiskey and being in the presence of that. Half the band trying to be sober and all. Maybe a good lesson in not chasing every dollar around every corner that your hand rubbing management is in.
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Sept 28, 2019 0:50:12 GMT
This explains a lot about James not looking too well or energetic lately, and that vibe probably affecting the others too. Probably wasn't a good idea to be selling Metallica beer and whiskey and being in the presence of that. Half the band trying to be sober and all. Maybe a good lesson in not chasing every dollar around every corner that your hand rubbing management is in. Absofuckinglutely right man. I always thought it odd to be selling booze.
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Post by SicJes on Sept 28, 2019 0:51:07 GMT
Jesus, today is Cliffs anniversary aswell. Maybe that did it. But yeah, selling Metallica whiskey and beer... You could see him in those promo clips mentally reaching for that stuff.
So sorry for you guys getting screwed as well.
WTF?
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Post by metman18 on Sept 28, 2019 1:18:17 GMT
Such shitty news. Hope he gets the help he needs. Kinda odd to hear considering how he treated Kirk during the Hardwired promo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 2:02:12 GMT
Kinda odd to hear considering how he treated Kirk during the Hardwired promo. ?
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Post by metman18 on Sept 28, 2019 2:05:27 GMT
Kinda odd to hear considering how he treated Kirk during the Hardwired promo. ? He was visibly and vocally upset about Kirk not being around while recording Hardwired.
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Post by SicJes on Sept 28, 2019 2:23:42 GMT
So if this is it, S&M 2 was the last set of shows. What a way to go out. I really hope this is not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 4:46:03 GMT
It just sucks all around. For you guys that dropped tons of money, time and energy, and seeing that James has fallen off the wagon. Yeah, he did seem uncomfortable in the whiskey videos. Not so much like he wanted them, more that he didn't know how to feel about promoting them. Always very silent and back-seat.
Either way, as was said, it must be pretty serious for them to cancel a tour. James notoriously hates not fulfilling his obligations, so this must be necessary.
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Post by herodreamer on Sept 28, 2019 5:18:40 GMT
Metallica Selling Whiskey seemed in poor taste given James history... that was always a WFT thing with me...
sigh. Get well, James...
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Post by herodreamer on Sept 28, 2019 5:19:55 GMT
He was visibly and vocally upset about Kirk not being around while recording Hardwired. To be fair... Kirk dropped the ball on that one.
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Post by R2D2 on Sept 28, 2019 5:31:48 GMT
He was visibly and vocally upset about Kirk not being around while recording Hardwired. Is there video of this or something?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 5:41:10 GMT
Metallica Selling Whiskey seemed in poor taste given James history... that was always a WFT thing with me... sigh. Get well, James... Money. Actor Danny Trejo has been sober for many decades. Has a bar chain and named branded beer. Granted, just because you are sober doesn't mean that you have to be preachy and anti alcohol. But, it's still a bit odd to sell it under your name. It's almost like a vegan selling meat. And, especially when you already have plenty of money. Money is a motherfucker. There is clearly never enough. Never enough when you don't have it. Never enough when you have more than enough. Something in the human brain. We are evolved from people who barely had anything for the vast majority of human existence. Greed is survival.
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Post by BigBunny on Sept 28, 2019 7:19:54 GMT
To cancel a tour it must be bad. Really shocking considering how strong Het appeared publicly when talking about his addictions and recovery. Some logistics to work out on a more selfish note... I’ve dropped a fair chunk of coin on this tour. you're not selfish. you've put up alot of money to follow the band around, I feel for you mate I only had 2 tickets for the Perth show and I'm wondering how do we get our refund? does the money get put back on our credit card? cause I only use it for concerts and there isn't anything else I want to see.
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Post by jayc on Sept 28, 2019 7:56:42 GMT
Just a note to the opinion that Metallica selling alcohol could have led to this....
Let’s not forget that his first stint in rehab also listed “other addictions”. We don’t know it’s booze, it could be something else. Also as others have pointed out, you can abstain from something whilst working in that arena. It’s not ideal but it’s an individual choice.
On topic: I hope he gets the help he needs and is able to return. But not to Metallica, just to the world.
Looking through some of the FB and IG comments, the ones that say “we need you” or “the world needs you” etc get under my skin. We know part of his issues has always been the hero worship attached to his life and how much he resists that (hence his decision to stop attending the free meet and greets). That’s a huge weight on ones shoulders to feel that people you’ve never even met ‘need’ you; that somehow their lives would be negatively impacted if he wasn’t “in” them. I think people should realise that and wish him well for HIM not for some selfish reason.
I want him to get better and healthier. For him and his family. Not so I can have more records. If this is it, then that’s fine with me. He’s given me enough over the 31 years I’ve been a fan.
(No judgement meant towards anyone in this thread BTW)
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Post by Zalman on Sept 28, 2019 8:37:38 GMT
Out of nowhere. I never thought it would happen again. Hoping for the best.
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Post by jayc on Sept 28, 2019 9:14:01 GMT
Out of nowhere. I never thought it would happen again. Hoping for the best. What makes it worse is that it has to be so public. Others fall of the wagon and can climb back on in private. He doesn’t get that choice.
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Post by Ruflux on Sept 28, 2019 10:13:44 GMT
Out of nowhere. I never thought it would happen again. Hoping for the best. What makes it worse is that it has to be so public. Others fall of the wagon and can climb back on in private. He doesn’t get that choice. Yeah, that's something that's been on my mind after I heard about it too. Hell, it's not even just that he's a public figure and every curious Joe wants to know exactly what's going on (even though they have absolutely no right to that kind of access to James's personal life) but also that with the advent of social media and constant availability, it creates undue pressure on him and the band, the kind of pressure that wasn't as prevalent back in the day when James first entered rehab. Hope he recovers fast and finds something that works for him in the long run, even if it means the end of Metallica. Fuck those selfish people on social media who are only concerned over whether or not he'll be back touring again soon. The number one priority is that he takes care of himself and feels good about life. I'd rather he be happy and sober spending time with his family than miserable out on the road dealing with all the rockstar hero worship bullshit.
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Post by SicJes on Sept 28, 2019 11:18:07 GMT
Yeah, I hope there is a no internet policy wherever he ended up.
What a mind fuck. Poor guy. I just pray that it was his choice and no one had to drag him there or anything.
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Post by lightning master on Sept 28, 2019 13:02:35 GMT
Wow...This really flabbergasted me. I thought those years really were past him.
Hope James will have a fast recovery, for everyone's sake.
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Post by jayc on Sept 28, 2019 13:12:05 GMT
Wow...This really flabbergasted me. I thought those years really were past him.
Hope James will have a fast recovery, for everyone's sake.
I guess it just goes to show that you can never assume anything.
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Post by jayc on Sept 28, 2019 13:13:30 GMT
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Sept 28, 2019 13:41:20 GMT
I wish him the best.
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Post by herodreamer on Sept 28, 2019 18:00:55 GMT
That's why they say recovery is not a cure but a fluid and ongoing process.
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