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Post by forgotten in space on May 14, 2020 11:45:10 GMT
i was going to make a post about how teams don't have to make decisions now, it's a total buyers market and with their being more drivers than spots available you're guaranteed to end up with a great driver out of vettel, sainz, ricciardo, bottas, hamilton, hulkenberg and ((((alonso)))). but no, ferrari announced sainz and mclaren announced ricciardo for next year! it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the grid works itself out but that'll be for the months to come. Yeah, but at least no silly season. :P McLaren the clear winner, I couldn't care less about Ferrari but apparently they don't care about having a current proven winner either.
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Post by Bartman on May 14, 2020 12:23:46 GMT
Yeah, but at least no silly season. :P McLaren the clear winner, I couldn't care less about Ferrari but apparently they don't care about having a current proven winner either. that's true! the news sites might be more sane during summer now.
can't wait for the "alonso to williams" rumours to start or something when everyone gets bored at not having anything to speculate on.
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Post by Bartman on May 14, 2020 22:10:31 GMT
ahahaha it's actually happening. like a script. a regulation or rule change occurs that ferrari doesn't like; ferrari threatens to quit/set up a rival series/want to do indycar:
Ferrari confirms IndyCar evaluation project
Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto has admitted that the legendary Italian sportscar manufacturer and F1 team is currently investigating the possibility of entering the NTT IndyCar Series, possibly as soon as 2022. Mere days after racing icon Mario Andretti called on the Scuderia to consider entry into U.S. open-wheel racing, Binotto admitted that both IndyCar and world championship-level sportscar racing are under discussion at the team’s Maranello base. During an interview with SkySport Italia, the Ferrari team principal confirmed that the goal is to find championships that match the needs of the Prancing Horse when part of the sports management staff are otherwise destined to become redundant due to the Formula 1’s forthcoming budget cap. “Ferrari feels a lot of social responsibility towards its employees,” explained Binotto, “and we want to be sure that for each of them there will be a workspace in the future. “For this reason we have started to evaluate alternative programs, and I confirm that we are looking at IndyCar, which is currently a very different category from ours [F1] but with a change of regulation scheduled in 2022 [introduction of hybrid engines]. We also observe the world of endurance racing and other series. We will try to make the best choice. “In recent weeks there has been a lot of discussion about the downsizing of the budget available for Formula 1 teams,” concluded Binotto, “and a conclusion has now been reached. The limit of $175 million that had been defined and voted [in 2019] will be lowered to $145m. “At Ferrari we were structuring ourselves based on the budget approved last year, and the further reduction represents an important challenge that will inevitably lead to review staff, structure and organization.”
there has been no public sign of indycar wanting to move beyond being a spec series but dammit if they still want to have a look!
while i admire ferrari's want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars, even if they were to move into indycar as engine supplier i doubt they will find themselves dpending above $175 million per year let alone maintain the levels of staff they currently have, the research & development facilities, the factory etc...
mad lads but i admire it. maybe they can go into whatever the hell the new prototype regulations will be in IMSA and the WEC?
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Post by Bartman on May 19, 2020 9:54:23 GMT
silverstone signing a deal to host TWO races this season while being in a situation which would make holding international motorsports untenable is peak silverstone and 1000% representative of britain at this moment (don't even get me started on scottish football again, dearie me)
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Post by forgotten in space on May 19, 2020 14:09:24 GMT
Pringle is definitely talking too much.
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Post by Bartman on May 19, 2020 20:27:08 GMT
this is an intersting/odd announcement. the ACM have announced that the monaco grand prix and indianapolis 500 won't clash next season. the dates not clashing isn't necessarily news as such, monaco has just been moved back a week (and imo move it a week furher back like it was in the '90s), but it seems strange that they would feel the need to make an announcement.
what's stranger, is that the monaco grand prix weekend now falls on, what usually is, qualifying weekend - the race landing on pole/bump day, meaning that it'd still be impossible for a driver to participate in both events without there being a) a cap of 33 entrants to the race (lol), b) there only being 33 entrants (which even in the dire early-mid '10s wasn't necessarily nan issue, the years in which there were only 33 entrants indycar were happy to fund any reasonable attempt to get on the grid, hence buddy lazier always being there: now that there are more teams involved - mike shank, scuderia corsa, juncos, dragonspeed, top gun, rumours of team goh fielding a full entry, and a certain other rumoured team...), c) guaranteed spots on the grid for full season entrants - which roger penske enthusiastically supported as a team owner but as a series owner seems less keen on - meaning, idk, mclaren could assign either o'ward or askew's entry to ricciardo (for example) and have them qualify on speed and ricciardo start in position 33 or d) getting a driver to qualify and have them hand over the entry for the race find or e) hook up wth a small team small team, eg dale coyne, offer them $200k to put magnussen or ricciardo or stroll or whomever wants to do the race in one of their guaranteed entries, have them practice and prepare, have tristan vautier or whomever qualify it and switch back for the final week or f) that but without the guaranteed spot gimmick and just buying a qualified entry. some folk are putting on the tin foil hats and speculating that maybe the penske/phillip morris/ferrari triad are involved; i must admit it is rather than odd that they want to run formula e, historic monaco and then the grand prix in a three week period but i don't think i'm willing to launch fully into the realm of speculation yet - after all ferrari threaten to race in a new series roughly twice a decade - but it all seems...odd. (marketing, it's all it is, marketing. get your brand out there and give material to writers/twitter geeks/forum posters to conjure up images of daniil kvyat rolling up for ed carpenter racing, of charles leclerc in an andretti*. i think that's the likely reason - to give us something to chat about) ((*but if charles leclerc were to do the 500 there's a no more or less than 100% he'll do it with andretti. i know michael runs the team but there's no chance mario wouldn't push to get him in that team )) Pringle is definitely talking too much.
absolutely.
he did nearly 40 minutes on midweek motorsport the other week and, though he is clearly very passionate and interesting, i couldn't help but think maybe he should stop saying...things.
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Post by Bartman on May 19, 2020 20:35:23 GMT
in other news, the new f1 game is looking fun. i'm liking the sound of the team owner mode the more i hear about it: i'm going to bring back HRT and see if i can have my lead driver semi-run things while my factory bleeds money
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Post by forgotten in space on May 20, 2020 9:41:26 GMT
Raghunatan 2035 WDC :cool:
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Post by Bartman on May 24, 2020 15:46:10 GMT
it should be the best afternoon of the year today
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Post by forgotten in space on May 24, 2020 19:49:07 GMT
Daniel Abt disqualified from a Formula-E virtual race after they found out someone else drove for him. absolute legend.
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Post by Bartman on May 25, 2020 0:40:13 GMT
Daniel Abt disqualified from a Formula-E virtual race after they found out someone else drove for him. absolute legend. i saw that, hero
i noticed that sr alonso was the only driver not to have a cam up on the indianapolis stream yesterday too
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Post by Bartman on May 26, 2020 0:48:47 GMT
i wish the nascar xfinity series was doing two races a week rather than the cup series because it is so so good
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Post by Bartman on May 26, 2020 12:23:50 GMT
Daniel Abt disqualified from a Formula-E virtual race after they found out someone else drove for him. absolute legend. audi fucking dropped him for it
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Post by forgotten in space on May 29, 2020 17:17:31 GMT
That was absolute crap.
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Post by Bartman on May 29, 2020 18:36:45 GMT
the amount of rumours i've read about the past few days is insane. website writers and newspapers must be getting very bored.
how could you not be enthused by a valencia/sochi crossover???
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Post by Bartman on Jun 12, 2020 23:35:31 GMT
it looks like they've fucking tilke'd trial mountains ffs
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Post by Bartman on Jun 13, 2020 19:02:56 GMT
there's a not-insignificant rumour that portimão is about to be announced as having grand prix on september 27th and october 4th (october 11th is also a possible date, depending on if there is a race in canada in september and/or the possibility of a sochi doubleheader, racing at mugello and imola etc). the commentary stream for the 24hr race at portimão more or less said that the track managers are of the belief that this will be announced immediately, fwiw.
it'll probably without fans which is a shame but i think f1 will be very nice there!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 14, 2020 16:59:38 GMT
Better than a doubleheader at fucking Sochi, that's for sure :p
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 14, 2020 17:00:15 GMT
it looks like they've fucking tilke'd trial mountains ffs
I'm not very familiar with the game, is the track very different?
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Post by Bartman on Jun 14, 2020 21:06:41 GMT
I'm not very familiar with the game, is the track very different? it's only a very small change but one i dislike :p
the final turns used to be a right/left you could run more or less straight (with a little braking) and maintain momentum for a pass in the first sector (you could also end up on two wheels if you clipped a mound of dirt or a curb at a certain angle). for gt7, what seems to have happened is that the last corner before the chicane has been has been tightened and the straight lengthened, making the run to the chicane more about getting on the power early than carrying momentum with the consequence of turning the final chiane into an abu dhabi-esque "overtaking zone" e.g. long straight into two 90 degree corners separated by a short straight onto another long straight. the video cuts just before you reach the chicane but looking at the track map and the lead up to it, it looks a little gimmicky.
within the lore of the game, i quite like it as an example of the circuit making an adaptation to become, say, a fia grade 2 circuit - apricot hill's absence from gt5 and reappearence in gt6, slightly reprofiled and with lights for night racing could be explained this way - but it has come at the expense of one of the legendary gran turismo corners! what confuses me is that, if trial mountain was adapting to safety standards, when they redesigned the back stretch after the tunnel, they replaced the rock mound with bare trees, marshalls and a tractor, looking as much like a rally course than, idk, oschersleben.
obviously it's just a game but i really liked the corner and it don't want it tilke'd!!
if i have the money by then, i'll still be buying the game on day one. i'm just whingeing about one corner
old circuit map (turn 11 tightened, turns 12 & 13 abu dhabi'd/tilke'd for gt7):
track history:
car flinging itself into the pits/wall/abyss:
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Post by Bartman on Jun 14, 2020 22:12:47 GMT
Better than a doubleheader at fucking Sochi, that's for sure :p too right!
that track at portimão is really good. i'm surprised that motogp hasn't also considered going there, it looks like it'd be a cracking bike circuit somewhere between cadwell park and the circuit at dubai!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 14, 2020 22:51:06 GMT
Better than a doubleheader at fucking Sochi, that's for sure :p too right!
that track at portimão is really good. i'm surprised that motogp hasn't also considered going there, it looks like it'd be a cracking bike circuit somewhere between cadwell park and the circuit at dubai!
They ran Superbikes there as the circuit's inaugural race, I think, but the whole original project with all the facilities never really took off, predictably. I don't know enough about how MotoGP goes around building their calendar, but there hasn't been a Portuguese GP since 2012, if it's anything like F1 in terms of promoter fees and such I don't know who would pay :p
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Post by Bartman on Jun 15, 2020 7:32:03 GMT
They ran Superbikes there as the circuit's inaugural race, I think, but the whole original project with all the facilities never really took off, predictably. I don't know enough about how MotoGP goes around building their calendar, but there hasn't been a Portuguese GP since 2012, if it's anything like F1 in terms of promoter fees and such I don't know who would pay :p the circuit is owned by the state now, i think? the circuit was really caught out by the financial crash in the late '00s and formula one cancelling almost all in-season testing; the track was created more or less for an all year warm weather test circuit in europe. there used to be a 1000km le mans series race there but when that transitioned into the world endurance championship, it was bumped off the calendar sadly. wsb still go, and the races are generally pretty good!
i think the motogp calendar has only one rule and it's that you can't go more than 4 races without a race in spain :p i don't think dorna, the rights holder, charges as much as liberty for race sanctioning but i can't imagine it being a bargain, right enough.
i loved the races at estoril - i love estoril tbh - the race that toni elias just edged out valentino rossi is one of the best motorcycle grand prix i can remember. 2006 i think?
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 15, 2020 18:10:32 GMT
That bit about races in Spain I noticed :p
That youtuber bloke paused the My Team mode trailer frame by frame and it actually looks pretty reasonable.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 16, 2020 12:08:33 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Jun 29, 2020 19:42:49 GMT
i do not want to detract from the goodwill of mercedes' livery change:
but err, this "new" mercedes livery looks a little like something else (the 2020 mercedes formula e livery)
i am sure that the company do indeed mean well but that they did it so obviously in line with already existing branding and company colours...it feels a little convenient tbh. this isn't exactly ferrari or force racing jordan midland going from an iconic red or bright pink livery to plain black, y'know?
i loved this article!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jun 29, 2020 21:00:29 GMT
That's a good call, the FE chassis is so busy that I didn't even think of it.
But bad or good motives aside, it still looks infinitely better than their shitty non-silver gray livery.
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Post by Bartman on Jun 29, 2020 23:02:53 GMT
That's a good call, the FE chassis is so busy that I didn't even think of it. But bad or good motives aside, it still looks infinitely better than their shitty non-silver gray livery. aye, i appreciate that it's the corporate colour of mercedes and that it's germany's national racing colour but it's so uninspiring and dull. it epitomises the era of mercedes dominance, similar with audi in prototype racing until 2014. even the (beautiful) sauber mercedes c3 group c cars - absolutely epic racing cars but they looked sooooo dull.
it's very snazzy i think, the new livery. it is much better executed than on the formula e car too i think. i like the combination of the black and the green/blue. when i first saw nascar in the late '90s, in this age of jeff gordon's rainbow warrior, chad little's bright green john deere car, the iconic tv guide and tide cars and kodak cars...i really gravitated to ward burton's mbna pontiac
i just thought it was so cool. cooler even than the dale earnhardt black "intimidator" car
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 9:08:50 GMT
that mercedes looks phenomenal on track, oh man
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 9:30:00 GMT
grosjean having break problems 25 minutes into the season is peak haas and peak grosjean
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