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Post by Bartman on Apr 8, 2020 9:49:46 GMT
wait, Wallace ragequit whilst playing? I only saw a headline and thought he had pulled out of doing it  Absolute legend just for this. I'm quite surprised at how suddenly everyone cares about this, and speaking as someone who actually follows a couple of E-racing youtubers, now is when I couldn't care less. It was televised?! holy fuck yeah, he was punted out, jumped to the pit and said "this is why i don't take this shit seriously. PEACE OUT" and then left:
hero. icon. this was from his personal stream but the race was on either fox sports 1 or the actual fox channel. i've not heard any of bowyer's reaction but it must've been interesting, him commentating and all.
aye i must say i am quite surprised too. it's cool that people were enthusiastic about motorsports but i wish there was this excitement about it when it was the real vehicles too. even some of the more mainstream racing news sites appear more buoyant about the races! i don't follow many e-racing folk, jimmy broadbent because i watched his videos infrequently enough that they spammed my recommendations so i just followed him (he's in a few groups i am in on fb and he is beaing UNBEARABLE the now), i'm a big fan of windVOW8820 because most of his videos are about nascar console games (the finest of e-sports ), matt malone and chris hayes are good too.
in case either of you fellas are interested, david land did an open-wheel super stream last night on iracing, from lucas oil raceway park:
i haven't watched it yet, bar a couple of minutes before going to bed last night, but he was saying in an earlier video how it was going to be multi-class and everything; multiple heats, special races etc. seems like it was a great time and just a lot of fun! colton herta was participating too.
Formula One also has to consider people's willingness to travel. I mean, they race in more than one venue/country with hardly any motorsport tradition, and are completely depend on foreign marshalls coming over. I know I wouldn't go over (paying for everything) to feckin Abu Dhabi or Russia to marshall a race with a pandemic going on. of course, there is that consideration too! that's one thing i think that indycar are much farther ahead on, having their own specialist marshalling and safety crew that attends every race. as you allude to, the differences in marshalling at baku (further damaging cars that have already been damaged) vs monaco (cars lifted out of the way/tucked into crannies within seconds) is staggering. i heard that the abu dhabi and bahrain marshalls are getting paid now but nothing spectacular, i imagine barely enough to cover the trip.
I caught the incident between Bowyer and Wallace. But didn't realise it went on and Wallace lost a sponsorship....that is funny. I like Bowyer. He's one of the few US drivers in NASCAR that I enjoyed hearing from (mainly during the period where Ambrose was racing over there, was when I was fully engaged in the series) it's mad!
aye man, i am a big fan of bowyer too. bubba and bowyer are actually my two favourite drivers they both come across extremely honest and real and i appreciate that. i like kurt busch and ricky stenhouse too.
i really admire marcos ambrose going over and giving nascar a go. starting from the truck series too i really respect.
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i might abandon an f1 '13 season and playing some nascar instead. i've got an itch to turn exclusively left now.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 8, 2020 11:37:46 GMT
spa in reverse looks banging 100% someone is dying at la source but pouhon looks phenomenal  |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 8, 2020 20:27:26 GMT
Well that was absolutely abysmal TV direction. Stay on the fucking podium, forget the flags ffs.
As much as Schumi was a ruthless cheat cynical bastard, seeing how awful that stint was for him and how a pass seemed inevitable, watching the full race again in context makes that seem, while definitely a cheat, also like he bottled it big time.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 8, 2020 22:19:15 GMT
Well that was absolutely abysmal TV direction. Stay on the fucking podium, forget the flags ffs. As much as Schumi was a ruthless cheat cynical bastard, seeing how awful that stint was for him and how a pass seemed inevitable, watching the full race again in context makes that seem, while definitely a cheat, also like he bottled it big time. i missed the broadcast because i'm dumb but i do mind that it was more a move of desperation than outright cheating. if anything villeneuve's move was a bit ambitious i thought! i know any attempt at a pass at jerez is ambitious because of how the track is designed but he came from quite a bit back there.
not that schumacher was totally innocent, far from it, but of all of his cheat cynical bastard incidents, this felt perhaps a little less egregious that others. it just happened to have massive consequences but it didn't feel like him spinning in pre-qualifying knowing that it would rain in the second session giving himself a better qualifying spot, parking himself at monaco to end qualifying early, torpedoing himelf into damon hill etc.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 8, 2020 22:19:54 GMT
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 9, 2020 0:33:11 GMT
The V8 iRacing series started last night. Was fun. They raced at Monza and well wasn't that a crashfest opening lap. Those chicanes are crazy and carnage was everywhere. The had the Reset option disabled. The DSO turned it back on for that race I was definitely entertained.
I see that Bathurst is in the schedule twice - seriously hoping they race it in reverse....impossible and ridiculously dangerous irl but online I say Do It! haha
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 9, 2020 12:05:56 GMT
Well that was absolutely abysmal TV direction. Stay on the fucking podium, forget the flags ffs. As much as Schumi was a ruthless cheat cynical bastard, seeing how awful that stint was for him and how a pass seemed inevitable, watching the full race again in context makes that seem, while definitely a cheat, also like he bottled it big time. i missed the broadcast because i'm dumb but i do mind that it was more a move of desperation than outright cheating. if anything villeneuve's move was a bit ambitious i thought! i know any attempt at a pass at jerez is ambitious because of how the track is designed but he came from quite a bit back there.
not that schumacher was totally innocent, far from it, but of all of his cheat cynical bastard incidents, this felt perhaps a little less egregious that others. it just happened to have massive consequences but it didn't feel like him spinning in pre-qualifying knowing that it would rain in the second session giving himself a better qualifying spot, parking himself at monaco to end qualifying early, torpedoing himelf into damon hill etc.
I think if you go to the F1 YouTube page, they still have the videos there...I watched a bit of Australia '86 yesterday. |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 9, 2020 17:04:12 GMT
Murray Walker had his gaffes and was prone to overexcitement but he was absolutely class, the way he gave credit to most drivers up and down the grid. In the internet age you're either an all-time great or a muppet.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 10, 2020 13:35:07 GMT
calling frentzen a nobody what is this gen-z bullshit
The V8 iRacing series started last night. Was fun. They raced at Monza and well wasn't that a crashfest opening lap. Those chicanes are crazy and carnage was everywhere. The had the Reset option disabled. The DSO turned it back on for that race I was definitely entertained.
I see that Bathurst is in the schedule twice - seriously hoping they race it in reverse....impossible and ridiculously dangerous irl but online I say Do It! haha
scott's having a good week! i really hope to find a way to watch some of the supercars series
those chicanes are very tricky. i sometimes wonder if the chicane at the end of the home straight is necessary but i mind once seeing an audi lmp1 testing at monza without the chicane and the speed it entered curva grande at...i think i prefer the chicane 
bathrust in reverse would be immense, there's no reason not to at the moment!! Murray Walker had his gaffes and was prone to overexcitement but he was absolutely class, the way he gave credit to most drivers up and down the grid. In the internet age you're either an all-time great or a muppet. i completely agree with this. i like ben edwards in this respect too but no one was as fair to drivers all across the grid as walker. he could see talent and praised it accordingly.
i often think about drivers at the back of the grid who put in phenomenal seasons and they go unnoticed. i think it more pronounced in a series like nascar where the differences between well funded teams are even more pronounced but it's entirely possible that the best performances and overall seasons came from the midfield or back. from the past decade you have: kovalainen for lotus in 2011, de la rosa at hrt in 2012 (incredible drives given the circumstances of the team plus the fact he was 41 at the time, his quali lap for 21st at suzuka was mega), hulk for sauber in 2013, nasr for sauber in 15 & 16... all could be argued as impressive as any frontrunner!
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Post by Bartman on Apr 10, 2020 13:36:18 GMT
i saw this video of interlagos in reverse. oh man that is a fearsome track!
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Post by Bartman on Apr 11, 2020 18:47:16 GMT
indycar iracing at michigan...they successfully recreated the start of the 1996 US 500. i love it. best series in the world.
none of that is ironic too. i'm watching the official stream on teelvision and listening to colton herta's twitch stream on my laptop and the boys are clearly having a lot of fun with it! bryan herta also occasionally appearing and waving to us.
alexander rossi is struggling to type out his complaints and scott dixon is having a breakdown and being reassured by indycar over the stream that it is just a bit of fun. i am a convert to e-sports now.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 11, 2020 19:44:31 GMT
one thing i love about indycar is that indycar will always be indycar whether it is irl racing, iracing, the playstation 2 games...it's always indycar and i love it and hate it but love it becuase of why i hate it.
the drivers do not seem to like iracing. listening in on colton herta's strea, it seems the lads aren't a fan of the officiating (indcyar, generally in fairness), the realism, the feel of the cars and tracks.
it is fun however! especially if you listen to/watch on twitch of facebook live.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 12, 2020 18:29:38 GMT
Sir Stirling Moss, aka God, has died at age 90  |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 13, 2020 12:29:07 GMT
Sir Stirling Moss, aka God, has died at age 90 he's one of the ones i can't believe dying. i know retired from private life a couple of years back but because he had been around for so long and always been a total legend, it didn't feel possible really.
there was a really good 10-15 minute interview with damon hill on bbc last night. i don't think any news story has received that amount of uninterrupted coverage since the virus began! it's really nice seeing so many people, many of whom weren't even alive when he retired (the brief comeback to BTCC notwithstanding) sharing pictures, videos and stories about him. i expect next month's motorsport magazine will be a great tribute to him.
a real don, i will miss him.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 13, 2020 12:36:25 GMT
so kyle larson has killed the fun part of e-racing!
he dropped a hard n word on conor daly's stream last night (of course it had to happen to conor daly too) and blue checkmark and normie twitter are (to some extent pretty reasonably) not happy. twitter of course being the most important component of real life, it'll be interesting to see how ganassi handle it as far as his irl racing career goes.
what i can see happening though is things like colton herta/oliver askew/max chilton's live streams of races will either disappear/be moderated by PR departments, driver appearences at events like daivd land's the other day might be limited...FUN IS OVER.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 13, 2020 17:19:37 GMT
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 13, 2020 17:20:27 GMT
Sir Stirling Moss, aka God, has died at age 90 he's one of the ones i can't believe dying. i know retired from private life a couple of years back but because he had been around for so long and always been a total legend, it didn't feel possible really.
there was a really good 10-15 minute interview with damon hill on bbc last night. i don't think any news story has received that amount of uninterrupted coverage since the virus began! it's really nice seeing so many people, many of whom weren't even alive when he retired (the brief comeback to BTCC notwithstanding) sharing pictures, videos and stories about him. i expect next month's motorsport magazine will be a great tribute to him.
a real don, i will miss him.
So many anecdotes of his sharp reflexes. Truly the great one with Fangio before Clark. |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 13, 2020 18:13:16 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Apr 13, 2020 21:21:04 GMT
So many anecdotes of his sharp reflexes. Truly the great one with Fangio before Clark. and of his sharp wits too! one of, maybe the, greatest in formula one and in sportscar racing - absolutely incredible.
i often wonder who from this generation can be remembered even slightly like moss. alonso, hamilton, raikkonen, lotterer, montoya? i think with distance and time the latter two will be looked on, obviously not quite as god-like as moss, glowingly.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 14, 2020 13:20:51 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Apr 14, 2020 22:06:05 GMT
that was class, fantastic |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 14, 2020 22:10:29 GMT
spain 1996 tomorrow night on the youtube channel. it's a fine race and obviously iconic and important to the history of schumacher and ferrari but i can't recall it being super enthralling.
i think i'd rather see entertaining but ultimately irrelevant races like hungary 2011, britain 2003 or something instead. even spain 1997 with panis' charge maybe!
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 15, 2020 0:19:18 GMT
Cheers for posting that one up. That was a great article.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 15, 2020 18:32:33 GMT
Ricciardo picks five underrated drivers he has faced.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 15, 2020 21:42:35 GMT
Ricciardo picks five underrated drivers he has faced. i was going to share that too! it was an interesting read for sure - i'm liking the shout out to marcus ericsson and paul di resta! |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 15, 2020 22:21:44 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Apr 17, 2020 13:12:36 GMT
i take back everything negative i ever said about villeneuve, he is the best
the man gives zero fucks these days and that is admirable
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 17, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
i take back everything negative i ever said about villeneuve, he is the best the man gives zero fucks these days and that is admirable Because he raced with a controller? |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 17, 2020 19:22:43 GMT
Are the hardcore rfactor and iRacing players throwing a fit because professional drivers are making a mockery of it or saying it's only marginally more like a car than Codemasters game?
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 18, 2020 1:34:32 GMT
From the eSeries I am watching, I am hearing them praise the level of concentration required by the front runners (harder to focus for long periods than the real thing), but also pointing out the "feel" cannot be properly replicated even with the top dollar sim setups - its missing that "seat of your pants" feel that lets you know the car is breaking away at the rear, or whatever.
Have not seen any comments from non-pro racers
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Absolute legend just for this.
