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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 1, 2020 20:39:08 GMT
sounds like the 2021 regs are being moved to 2023 now, 18" inch tyres are postponed until...? and engine development for whenever these new regs are being planned for is suspended for the year.
but at force india racing point jordan grand prix is confirmed to rebrand as aston martin next season! (but they had better keep the pink cars)
i'm starting an f1 '13 full season but i'm undecided whether to go lotus or mercedes. i'll let you know.
oh and the british grand prix is looking increasingly like it will be off, eeech.
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 2, 2020 0:07:38 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Apr 2, 2020 9:09:06 GMT
I really want an eight-race championship to happen because '50s i like this idea. in an ordinary season i would prefer to see 16-17 races tops anyway with a few non-championship events.
of the races which were originally scheduled for this year, which 8 would you want to keep? i think i'd have (in rough order):
australia/canada mexico britain austria hungary italy japan brazil
p much everything else i can take or leave or hold as non-championship.
all i needed to see was "includes talladega" to have me intrigued.
if this was a legit calendar of an irl racing series, that racing series would be my favourite on earth. that's such a great series! the imola and interlagos double header is what i'm all about. i'm guessing that the first bathurst race is going to be some kind of endurance event? and it is absolutely lovely to see oran park on the schedule too, may that track rest it's soul.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 2, 2020 11:18:16 GMT
speaking of talladega, this was a cool thing:
before last year's autumn race at talladega, nick tandy and the factory porsche team did a few exhibition laps of the speedway. what is cooler was that around 12 hours before, that same car had just finished the petit le mans up the road in atlanta. they basically just packed the car up, stopped for dinner and drove down to the speedway for this. its doubly cool because nick tandy - long-time factory porsche driver, good open wheel driver, outright le mans 24 hours winner in a prototype - adores nascar, with it being his first love in motorsport before formula one or gt1 or anything like that. so that was cool.
if i had the nascar rulebook, i would love to open it up to porsche and mercedes and volvo and everybody - like gt3 but for stock cars.
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Post by Bartman on Apr 2, 2020 17:16:09 GMT
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 2, 2020 18:55:48 GMT
I really want an eight-race championship to happen because '50s i like this idea. in an ordinary season i would prefer to see 16-17 races tops anyway with a few non-championship events.
of the races which were originally scheduled for this year, which 8 would you want to keep? i think i'd have (in rough order):
australia/canada mexico britain austria hungary italy japan brazil
p much everything else i can take or leave or hold as non-championship.
all i needed to see was "includes talladega" to have me intrigued.
if this was a legit calendar of an irl racing series, that racing series would be my favourite on earth. that's such a great series! the imola and interlagos double header is what i'm all about. i'm guessing that the first bathurst race is going to be some kind of endurance event? and it is absolutely lovely to see oran park on the schedule too, may that track rest it's soul.
I'd go for Bahrain Canada Austria UK Belgium Japan Mexico Brazil |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 2, 2020 19:02:05 GMT
International Circuit layout looks tidy too (they all do, Silverstone is a proper place :aye: ) Don't understand the reverse idea, turning Copse into a left-hander, no runoff, crashes would be quite dire. Also, Chapel, Becketts, Maggots. I mean, it would be ace, but *insert Mrs. Lovejoy* |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 2, 2020 19:15:39 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Apr 2, 2020 21:05:03 GMT
i swithered on adding bahrain. the racing there is usually class but that gets overshadowed and cast aside (by myself too) because it's a vanity event for the bahraini royal family. f1's youtube channel replayed the 2014 bahrain grand prix the other day and it's one of the best of this era, easily, all through the field. even looking at last year, that was a grand...grand prix. International Circuit layout looks tidy too (they all do, Silverstone is a proper place :aye: ) Don't understand the reverse idea, turning Copse into a left-hander, no runoff, crashes would be quite dire. Also, Chapel, Becketts, Maggots. I mean, it would be ace, but *insert Mrs. Lovejoy* silverstone is well good innit? the british grand prix is the one think i get brit-patriot about - the tracks are class and something to do with history. the pre-2010 version was my favourite but this one is still cracking.
a grand prix on the national circuit like the touring cars go on is my actual dream. clearly we'll never have an oval in formula one, it's a struggle to get them in indycar nowadays, so it'll be the closest we get to that:double drs on the two main straights, one cracking overtaking spot, four iconic corners... it could potentially be a mercedes bloodbath but you could see a force india maybe look very good there too.
i really liked how the reverse circuit looked but i worry about there being very few overtaking spots other than through woodcote into luffield. i can see what you mean about copse - it is a bit dicey looking, especially at the speeds they'll be coming through at. i mind jarno trulli's crash there going in the right direction in '04 and that being very scary. going the opposite way? ooft.
bonus porsche cup from thruxton because they should go there tbh:
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Post by Bartman on Apr 3, 2020 12:25:17 GMT
Don't understand the reverse idea, turning Copse into a left-hander, no runoff, crashes would be quite dire. i can see what you mean about copse - it is a bit dicey looking, especially at the speeds they'll be coming through at. i mind jarno trulli's crash there going in the right direction in '04 and that being very scary. going the opposite way? ooft.
whit am i havering about, trulli crashed between bridge and priory. i've seen someone crash at copse before and it be terrifying but i can't mind who. |
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Post by LeeClaire on Apr 3, 2020 15:56:23 GMT
What are considered the worst crashes where the driver survived?
How would you rank the worst crashes where the driver died since they would seemingly be equally bad?
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Post by Bartman on Apr 3, 2020 22:54:57 GMT
What are considered the worst crashes where the driver survived? How would you rank the worst crashes where the driver died since they would seemingly be equally bad? i think if you were to rank the latter, you would look at mass loss of life (including innocents - the 1955 le mans disaster would be one); ones that could be attributed to some form of negligence on the part of a driver, the regulations, organising bodies, circuit management; or perhaps a matter of being gruesome (gordon smiley in 1982 indianapolis 500 practice, tom pryce in the 1977 south african grand prix, anything with fire - which was a lot until recently). all are tragedies, some are just that (justin wilson in 2015 at pocono). all motorsport deaths are incredibly violent - the accidents which eventually claimed maria de villota and jules bianchi (15 months and 8 months after the fact, the former making an apparent full recovery and the latter after spending that time in a coma) were horrifically violent: cars crashing into stationary recovery vehicles, driver literally head first, at over 100mph, which is very obviously horrific. an accident happened at macau in the touring car race a few years back which looked like a routine accident but it so happened to kill the driver, this happened a number of times in nascar throughout the late '90s and earlly '00s.
as with all transit related accidents, there's lessons to be learned: all those nascar crashes, roland ratzenberger in 1994, mika hakkinen's nearly fatal accident in 1995 led to better neck protection and head restraints in vehicles; jackie stewart's campaigning throughout his career, tired of seeing colleagues and friends died, led to improved safety standards and procedures at circuits. it's arguable that the worst accident is the one in which lessons aren't learned.
regarding worst that the driver was able to (not always literally) walk away from, from formula one over the past 20 or so years: luciano burti going 12-15 feet through a tyre barrier at 170mph, belgium 2001; takuma sato spearing nick heidfeld, austria 2002; allan mcnish taking 130r at 200mph and launching himself nearly out of the track, japan 2002; fernando alonso not noticing the yellow flags, or debris and a car in the middle of the road, and spearing mark webber, brazil 2003; robert kubica hitting a car at 200mph then hitting a wall then going across traffic before hitting another car, canada 2007, though he did later have a rally accident which almost killed him in 2011; heikki kovalainen doing what burti did, spain 2009 i think; felipe massa getting hit from a spring falling out of a car he was following, hungary 2009; mark webber flying 300m, europe 2010; fernando alonso's car being destroyed after hitting esteban gutierrez and *then* rolling through a tyre barrier into a wall; kevin magnusson at the top of raidillon and nearly rolling back into traffic (an accident which unfortunately was repeated in formula 2 last year, with the death of a driver), belgium 2016
basically this shit is very dangerous! and formula one is generally quite safe - if an accident happens on an oval in indycar, it is essentially an aircraft accident on the ground, such are the speeds involved and the guarantee of hitting something hard very hard. there's been a few very scary incidents in prototype racing this decade, audi having a terrible run in 2011 and 2014's le mans races. scott dixon and jay howard at the 2017 indianapolis 500 was another i doubt i'll forget.
nobody was hurt in any of the below, other than robert kubica having a sore wrist, ankle and head after, and taken from the aforementioned:
they're an unfortunately inevitable feature of motorsport but you never really want to see crashes. unfortunately some actors in the media, youtube, the nascar rule makers, seem not to acknowledge or fear this.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 4, 2020 10:36:43 GMT
Damn, son, I can't remember what I had for lunch the day before yesterday, and you come up with an encyclopedia entry :lol
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 4, 2020 11:17:11 GMT
It's not motor racing, but there's going to be a computer generated Grand National today
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Post by Bartman on Apr 4, 2020 21:30:08 GMT
Damn, son, I can't remember what I had for lunch the day before yesterday, and you come up with an encyclopedia entry :lol i just really love racing cars
i frequently forget my age, internet passwords and times for buses i have been catching for years but i can remember jordan's 2004 season and how ace timo glock was as a substitute at the canadian grand prix (and why the hell did nick heidfeld even go there?)
It's not motor racing, but there's going to be a computer generated Grand National today i saw it! pretty good race in all in all i thought |
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 4, 2020 22:36:52 GMT
Damn, son, I can't remember what I had for lunch the day before yesterday, and you come up with an encyclopedia entry :lol i just really love racing cars i frequently forget my age, internet passwords and times for buses i have been catching for years but i can remember jordan's 2004 season and how ace timo glock was as a substitute at the canadian grand prix (and why the hell did nick heidfeld even go there?)
It's not motor racing, but there's going to be a computer generated Grand National today i saw it! pretty good race in all in all i thought I was still queuing in tesco... |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 5, 2020 2:13:39 GMT
I was still queuing in tesco... i went to farmfoods instead  |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 6, 2020 1:42:47 GMT
watched the 1996 monaco grand prix on the formula one youtube channel oer the weekend. i've a lot of thoughts about it which if i could be bothered i'd actaully write up in a more or less coherent essay or something but a few things:
- jean alesi and gerhard berger would not know luck if it fell off one of their cars and damaged the other (italy 1995)
- luca badoer is the unluckiest and most unfairly reviled driver of all time: that poor man never once caught a break or even a vague amount of fair treatment from the media, from teams and from the concept of luck
- eddie irvine is an absolute hero who always understood the game, knew his role and went for his chance when he had it - he remained passionate for the sport and never betrayed who he was or let his dignity be damaged, sometimes to his detriment
- david coulthard letting himself be undermined by ron dennis' nordic fetish is why he never won a world championship because until jerez 1997, he was easily the better of he and hakkinen
- johnny herbert: drift king
- pedro lamy is still racing to this day and mad respect to the big man
- my childhood dislike for damon hill was completely unfounded and perhaps reflective of a completely unfair portrayal of him by the media (outwith murray walker) and the sport (other than bernie): an eminently decent man who made it to the sport in his 30s because bernie wanted to help him, thrust into a position of team leader after his team mate was killed, had his championship taken from him by schumacher shenanigans, was on his way to winning the race his father won like 20 times - the father he was forever going to be in the shadow of - before his engine just gave up, utterly fucked over by frank williams and who tried to get out so many times because his heart was no longer in it and it was depressing him, ultimately retiring a healthy car in his final race because he just wanted his life back/his life to begin.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 6, 2020 5:36:07 GMT
It was interesting for sure to see how drivers were still more or less ignoring blue flags (introduced only a year earlier I think).
Agreed on Berger and Alesi, both very fine drivers.
Reliability issues <3 I think in the final race of the season when JV still had an outside shot at the title his race ended because a wheel came off? (After having been denied a win on his debut by oil pressure issues)
I don't necessarily disagree with your points re Luca and Irvine (the testing comments by Walker were really revealing) but maybe in this race they should have been made to pit in to retire :p (of course carrying on almost made them get points)
The Jerez '97 and the Melbourne '98 first corner agreement are completely mystifying things coming as they did from such a supposed corporate ruthless type as Ron Dennis.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 6, 2020 5:46:39 GMT
After having written that about Jacques, Mika and David, plus your point on how Damon left the team, just consider...Jacques ignoring the team order and winning on his debut would have been absolutely historic, but knowing how itching Williams were to give a seat to fucking Frentzen, in hindsight that was the long game played well by the Canadian gobby. (To add to your long game point about Irvine...it would have been absolutely hilarious for him to win in '99 and break Ferrari's drought instead of Michael). Speaking of Ron though www.pitpass.com/66820/Ron-Dennis-behind-free-meals-scheme |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 6, 2020 12:22:27 GMT
It was interesting for sure to see how drivers were still more or less ignoring blue flags (introduced only a year earlier I think). Agreed on Berger and Alesi, both very fine drivers. Reliability issues <3 I think in the final race of the season when JV still had an outside shot at the title his race ended because a wheel came off? (After having been denied a win on his debut by oil pressure issues) I don't necessarily disagree with your points re Luca and Irvine (the testing comments by Walker were really revealing) but maybe in this race they should have been made to pit in to retire :p (of course carrying on almost made them get points) The Jerez '97 and the Melbourne '98 first corner agreement are completely mystifying things coming as they did from such a supposed corporate ruthless type as Ron Dennis. the implementation of the rule was funny too: waving blue flags for irvine when he and panis were racing for position was strange. i think they were still ironing out the kinks of the rule book.
i love reliability issues! i just felt really sorry for damon here  but it's part of racing innit, it sucked for them (and me as a fan) but toyota losing le mans 3 times in 4 years because of failures was a fascinating story. it's also a team sport and for all that you can be the flashiest driverin the world, the sport is as much about engineering a functioning car and having a driver that can take care of it technically. plus luck is a factor!
oh aye, the comment about the testing situation sums up everything about eddie. he knew what the deal was, he knew he was there because ferrari had to sign a second driver and he knew he was usually driving a different car to his team mate. he still did the job though, gave himself a good bargaining hand for the jaguar switch in 2000 (when schumacher wanted another #2...) and although it didn't lead to success, he still gave it a hell of a go. his insights on michael are fascinating too.
luca badoer had a 17 year f1 career and didn't score a single point. won the 1992 f3000 title convincingly and spent his '90s f1 career driving for jobber italian teams while being ferrari affiliated, he then developed some of the greatest racing cars of all time in the '00s before the events of august 2009: 10 years since his last race, he was giving a week's notice and zero testing to drive the most bewildering car ferrari ever produced...at a gimmick mickey mouse street circuit he'd never driven before. and then the week after, they went to the track the other ferrari driver is king at...and he won. then poor luca got the boot because fisichella almost won said grand prix and when they put him in the car...he wasnt much better! yet out of it giancarlo fisichella got a ferrari factory job in gt racing and badoer was quietly dropped and what little reputation he had was left tattered.
the 1999 european grand prix is honestly one of the best ever but the sight of badoer breaking down by the side of his broken down minardi, gearbox dying 10 laps from the end while in 4th place is painful. the forti experiment was a disaster. i read that they wanted more than anything to build a car that was reliable but running basically an underpowered f3000 car in formula one was never going to work. it's much easier to make a fast car reliable than the other way round.
i believe luca is an architect now. i hope his buildings have more success than his racing career.
i love mika hakkinen and he was my favourite as a child but looking back at everything, i have no idea why they didn't back coulthard entirely. he could've been a champion had he had that support and not internalised dennis' beliefs about him and mika. montoya had the right idea.
After having written that about Jacques, Mika and David, plus your point on how Damon left the team, just consider...Jacques ignoring the team order and winning on his debut would have been absolutely historic, but knowing how itching Williams were to give a seat to fucking Frentzen, in hindsight that was the long game played well by the Canadian gobby. (To add to your long game point about Irvine...it would have been absolutely hilarious for him to win in '99 and break Ferrari's drought instead of Michael). Speaking of Ron though www.pitpass.com/66820/Ron-Dennis-behind-free-meals-schemeyep, sacked damon to get frentzen. frentzen was a class driver in lesser equipment and so i can see why you would think that that driver in a top car would = championships and £££ but he clearly couldn't handle it. two spectacularly mediocre years at williams and then he almost wins the championship in a fucking jordan. he's a mystery. this was also back in the day in which jacques and craig pollock still made good decisions!
irvine winning in '99 would've been class. again, i was a hakkinen/mclaren fan so i was rooting against him but for irvine to have broken the 20 year break would have been so great. his class in giving mika salo the trophy at the german grand prix tells you so much about him too. hill, irvine, herbert and coulthard were all such great drivers, perfect gentlemen and for whatever reason all missed their shot (except hill, who was resented for winning).
also i meant to say in my first post: mika salo was also terribly talented, overall more rounded than the other mika and just as fast. that fucking moronic drink driving charge he got himself did no favours for his career. it did lead to him meeting his wife during his exile in japan but also meant he missed the boat on mclaren and jordan in the mid-90s when they were sort of just drifting around, and a shot at benetton or ferrari later in the '90s.
ron is such a compelx figure. he is a ruthless figure but oddly sensitive, dedicated to science and reason but thinks finns and danes are magic. he correctly wanted to fire button in 2014 (but the coward went behind the team and petitioned the bahraini backers dierctly) so you can't fault him entirely.
good on him for doing this. it clearly isn't a pr move because if it was it wouldn't be for something so obviously material and to do with looking after workers.
"Charlotte came to me with a very human and personal problem, and the foundation wants to take care of it"
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Post by General Smithers on Apr 6, 2020 13:24:28 GMT
What did you think about the Ford v Ferrari movie Mr BARTMAN?
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Post by Bartman on Apr 6, 2020 15:02:29 GMT
What did you think about the Ford v Ferrari movie Mr BARTMAN? i thought that it was class m8 |
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Post by LeeClaire on Apr 6, 2020 16:01:13 GMT
What are considered the worst crashes where the driver survived? How would you rank the worst crashes where the driver died since they would seemingly be equally bad? i think if you were to rank the latter, you would look at mass loss of life (including innocents - the 1955 le mans disaster would be one); ones that could be attributed to some form of negligence on the part of a driver, the regulations, organising bodies, circuit management; or perhaps a matter of being gruesome (gordon smiley in 1982 indianapolis 500 practice, tom pryce in the 1977 south african grand prix, anything with fire - which was a lot until recently). all are tragedies, some are just that (justin wilson in 2015 at pocono). all motorsport deaths are incredibly violent - the accidents which eventually claimed maria de villota and jules bianchi (15 months and 8 months after the fact, the former making an apparent full recovery and the latter after spending that time in a coma) were horrifically violent: cars crashing into stationary recovery vehicles, driver literally head first, at over 100mph, which is very obviously horrific. an accident happened at macau in the touring car race a few years back which looked like a routine accident but it so happened to kill the driver, this happened a number of times in nascar throughout the late '90s and earlly '00s.
as with all transit related accidents, there's lessons to be learned: all those nascar crashes, roland ratzenberger in 1994, mika hakkinen's nearly fatal accident in 1995 led to better neck protection and head restraints in vehicles; jackie stewart's campaigning throughout his career, tired of seeing colleagues and friends died, led to improved safety standards and procedures at circuits. it's arguable that the worst accident is the one in which lessons aren't learned.
regarding worst that the driver was able to (not always literally) walk away from, from formula one over the past 20 or so years: luciano burti going 12-15 feet through a tyre barrier at 170mph, belgium 2001; takuma sato spearing nick heidfeld, austria 2002; allan mcnish taking 130r at 200mph and launching himself nearly out of the track, japan 2002; fernando alonso not noticing the yellow flags, or debris and a car in the middle of the road, and spearing mark webber, brazil 2003; robert kubica hitting a car at 200mph then hitting a wall then going across traffic before hitting another car, canada 2007, though he did later have a rally accident which almost killed him in 2011; heikki kovalainen doing what burti did, spain 2009 i think; felipe massa getting hit from a spring falling out of a car he was following, hungary 2009; mark webber flying 300m, europe 2010; fernando alonso's car being destroyed after hitting esteban gutierrez and *then* rolling through a tyre barrier into a wall; kevin magnusson at the top of raidillon and nearly rolling back into traffic (an accident which unfortunately was repeated in formula 2 last year, with the death of a driver), belgium 2016
basically this shit is very dangerous! and formula one is generally quite safe - if an accident happens on an oval in indycar, it is essentially an aircraft accident on the ground, such are the speeds involved and the guarantee of hitting something hard very hard. there's been a few very scary incidents in prototype racing this decade, audi having a terrible run in 2011 and 2014's le mans races. scott dixon and jay howard at the 2017 indianapolis 500 was another i doubt i'll forget.
nobody was hurt in any of the below, other than robert kubica having a sore wrist, ankle and head after, and taken from the aforementioned:
they're an unfortunately inevitable feature of motorsport but you never really want to see crashes. unfortunately some actors in the media, youtube, the nascar rule makers, seem not to acknowledge or fear this.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 7, 2020 18:54:17 GMT
Jerez '97 tomorrow at 1800 UTC
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Post by Bartman on Apr 7, 2020 19:07:05 GMT
did anyone hear about the nascar iracing race from sunday? a driver, bubba wallace, ragequit after being dolted out by clint bowyer (who was also commentating at the time). his sponsor then whined about it on twitter and they dropped him.
nothing but love for how based that was of bubba wallace tbh. racequitting on national television is a pro maneouvre. the sponsor throwing the tantrum was the problem for me.
there's also seemingly an edict come out from iracing to indycar (and then communicated via podcast to the driver...) that if drivers have any comments or criticism (creative or not) regarding iracing and its realism, they've to go to indycar first and not mention it to the press. this is after scott dixon (scott fucking dixon) and alexander rossi (that alexander rossi) spoke about adapting to the challenges of sim racing and how it isn't much like the real thing.
both have gotten a lot of the sim racing folk angry, unfortunately they were mad at the drivers and not the thin skinned sponsors and developers!
i have said it before and i will say it again, giving gamers the vote was a mistake lads
(i should say, i've enjoyed most of the eracing i've caught so far! but when the irl cars are back, there'll be no debating which i will tune into for me)
Jerez '97 tomorrow at 1800 UTC appropriate after what we spoke about |
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Post by Bartman on Apr 7, 2020 19:15:46 GMT
canada's aff now indycar released a revised schedule the other day starting on june 6th at texas and im starting to think that that may have been a little premature to announce. of course i appreciate that the dynamics and logisitics of organising a formula one race on a sort of street circuit an ocean away from where all the teams based differ from that of indycar driving along the road but...if travel restrictions and state responses all differ, with the united states set to see the effects if the virus harder than anyone, i don't think we're going racing before august.
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 7, 2020 19:57:36 GMT
did anyone hear about the nascar iracing race from sunday? a driver, bubba wallace, ragequit after being dolted out by clint bowyer (who was also commentating at the time). his sponsor then whined about it on twitter and they dropped him.
nothing but love for how based that was of bubba wallace tbh. racequitting on national television is a pro maneouvre. the sponsor throwing the tantrum was the problem for me.
there's also seemingly an edict come out from iracing to indycar (and then communicated via podcast to the driver...) that if drivers have any comments or criticism (creative or not) regarding iracing and its realism, they've to go to indycar first and not mention it to the press. this is after scott dixon (scott fucking dixon) and alexander rossi (that alexander rossi) spoke about adapting to the challenges of sim racing and how it isn't much like the real thing.
both have gotten a lot of the sim racing folk angry, unfortunately they were mad at the drivers and not the thin skinned sponsors and developers!
i have said it before and i will say it again, giving gamers the vote was a mistake lads
(i should say, i've enjoyed most of the eracing i've caught so far! but when the irl cars are back, there'll be no debating which i will tune into for me)
Jerez '97 tomorrow at 1800 UTC appropriate after what we spoke about wait, Wallace ragequit whilst playing? I only saw a headline and thought he had pulled out of doing it Absolute legend just for this. I'm quite surprised at how suddenly everyone cares about this, and speaking as someone who actually follows a couple of E-racing youtubers, now is when I couldn't care less. It was televised?! holy fuck |
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Post by forgotten in space on Apr 7, 2020 20:01:46 GMT
canada's aff now indycar released a revised schedule the other day starting on june 6th at texas and im starting to think that that may have been a little premature to announce. of course i appreciate that the dynamics and logisitics of organising a formula one race on a sort of street circuit an ocean away from where all the teams based differ from that of indycar driving along the road but...if travel restrictions and state responses all differ, with the united states set to see the effects if the virus harder than anyone, i don't think we're going racing before august. Formula One also has to consider people's willingness to travel. I mean, they race in more than one venue/country with hardly any motorsport tradition, and are completely depend on foreign marshalls coming over. I know I wouldn't go over (paying for everything) to feckin Abu Dhabi or Russia to marshall a race with a pandemic going on. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 8, 2020 1:00:33 GMT
I caught the incident between Bowyer and Wallace.
But didn't realise it went on and Wallace lost a sponsorship....that is funny.
I like Bowyer. He's one of the few US drivers in NASCAR that I enjoyed hearing from (mainly during the period where Ambrose was racing over there, was when I was fully engaged in the series)
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but it's part of racing innit, it sucked for them (and me as a fan) but toyota losing le mans 3 times in 4 years because of failures was a fascinating story. it's also a team sport and for all that you can be the flashiest driverin the world, the sport is as much about engineering a functioning car and having a driver that can take care of it technically. plus luck is a factor!
