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Post by Bartman on Oct 9, 2021 14:40:42 GMT
going to have to use my mod powers to ban you for this pal
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Post by Bartman on Oct 9, 2021 14:41:15 GMT
nah what's he done/said? all i have seen online is nerds complaining that he isn't complementary enough to ricciardo, which is fair enough because monza aside he has been decidedly average this season.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 9, 2021 18:57:00 GMT
nah what's he done/said? all i have seen online is nerds complaining that he isn't complementary enough to ricciardo, which is fair enough because monza aside he has been decidedly average this season. Asking Bottas what will he do to help Lewis, when he is the de facto pole sitter and main chance for the race win... He always has the worst interviews, it can't be only the natural Brit bias of Sky.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 9, 2021 19:28:52 GMT
nah what's he done/said? all i have seen online is nerds complaining that he isn't complementary enough to ricciardo, which is fair enough because monza aside he has been decidedly average this season. Asking Bottas what will he do to help Lewis, when he is the de facto pole sitter and main chance for the race win... He always has the worst interviews, it can't be only the natural Brit bias of Sky. di resta as a driver was never a compelling interview right enough and he has carried that into this role. his big issue is that he has his base scottish cynicism but on top of that the grinding cynicism of british - especially sky - sports broadcasters trained into him, so everything is about the dark arts and the nonsense. pretty bad interview but, for better or worse, i imagine perez gets asked that too in that case.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 9, 2021 19:39:20 GMT
hearing lots of indianapolis based chat that if this andretti/sauber deal happens, they are going to push like hell for colton herta to have the seat next to bottas. there might be a super licence issue (ie euro-favouritism throwing a spanner in) but he has the points so we'll see. if they can't get herta in the seat, it isn't as if they don't have two other drivers with super licences on their indy squad already, plus another two that'd have no issue qualifying in their affiliated programme with meyer-shank racing...
big tip off initially for me was that they are determined to keep a hold of indy lights champion kyle kirkwood in the squad but that they have no intention on expanding their indycar programme full time. the guy that finished 4th has a deal signed but kirkwood is a generational talent (russell or leclerc'd his way through the jr open wheel series) and andretti are so determined to keep him that they are very much considering putting him in formula e straightaway, if there are no other changes. devlin difrancesco has a confirmed deal and no immediate path to a super licence, romain grosjean just signed a multi year deal and adores indycar and i doubt that alexander rossi will move (penske and ganassi are full and RLL look to have signed christian lundgaard, so there's no top funded seats left) meaning that i suspect unless those two make formula one returns, colton's situation is the one up for discussion.
few more hints have come out off of the record and hinted at in the press but, for once, bartman's "top american series driver should go to formula one" joke appears to actually have something to it.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 9, 2021 20:29:02 GMT
hearing lots of indianapolis based chat that if this andretti/sauber deal happens, they are going to push like hell for colton herta to have the seat next to bottas. there might be a super licence issue (ie euro-favouritism throwing a spanner in) but he has the points so we'll see. if they can't get herta in the seat, it isn't as if they don't have two other drivers with super licences on their indy squad already, plus another two that'd have no issue qualifying in their affiliated programme with meyer-shank racing... big tip off initially for me was that they are determined to keep a hold of indy lights champion kyle kirkwood in the squad but that they have no intention on expanding their indycar programme full time. the guy that finished 4th has a deal signed but kirkwood is a generational talent (russell or leclerc'd his way through the jr open wheel series) and andretti are so determined to keep him that they are very much considering putting him in formula e straightaway, if there are no other changes. devlin difrancesco has a confirmed deal and no immediate path to a super licence, romain grosjean just signed a multi year deal and adores indycar and i doubt that alexander rossi will move (penske and ganassi are full and RLL look to have signed christian lundgaard, so there's no top funded seats left) meaning that i suspect unless those two make formula one returns, colton's situation is the one up for discussion. few more hints have come out off of the record and hinted at in the press but, for once, bartman's "top american series driver should go to formula one" joke appears to actually have something to it. Vasseur batting Piastri suggestions away because of the Alpine link, when Zhou is also linked with the seat and is also Alpine.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 9, 2021 21:02:45 GMT
Vasseur batting Piastri suggestions away because of the Alpine link, when Zhou is also linked with the seat and is also Alpine. yep, total red flag i think. same with lundgaard seemingly having no route into formula one at the moment. gio being announced felt academic a month ago but as the andretti rumours got louder... there's enough doubt. mario almost certainly still has someone's ear after all of these years and michael has worked with enough manufacturers to be a realistic and serious guy to run a team and work close with the factory. with the miami race looking long term and indy being done up, i don't think that liberty would oppose another american run team - that actually has an american driver. if colton doesn't get the seat, if that is indeed what is the aim, i think gio might have the job for next year. otoh, rossi has a super licence and josef newgarden easily qualifies (2 champions, i think 7 seasons finishing in the top 5 of the championship) - there'll be an american on the grid sooner than later and i think definitely at miami in some form. also renault better get a customer team stat (tbf, possibly sauber-andretti once the fiat deal is finished), they've got so much talent in that programme and they signed ocon down on a substantial deal, the talent has got to go somewhere. the prototype programme will run the season after next and those things are essentially dtm F1 cars so that'll fill out 6-9 seats but until then, piastri and zhou and lundgaard have to race somewhere
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Post by Bartman on Oct 10, 2021 12:42:37 GMT
not exactly a hot take but i think that overall ferrari have the best line up, on average, a wee step above mercedes and red bull. if the 2022 ferrari is closer to the front and when both carlos and charles have a good day, that's quite a formindable combo.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 10, 2021 12:48:37 GMT
mazepin to alphatauri confirmed there (:))
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Post by Bartman on Oct 10, 2021 13:29:40 GMT
trying to catch leclerc on the first lap back out might cost lewis the championship and gasly might be the one to put the nail in the coffin and seal it for red bull...
funny how things work out eh.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 10, 2021 13:57:43 GMT
lewis had a rare wet weather issue and colin turkington had a very rare spin in the british touring cars just then...the end times are near
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Post by Bartman on Oct 10, 2021 17:04:22 GMT
lewis had a rare wet weather issue and colin turkington had a very rare spin in the british touring cars just then...the end times are near colin turkington went on to win race 3 by about 6 seconds, have the joint 3rd most wins in series history (tied with andy rouse at 60) and keep his championship challenge alive so it isn't all over for lewis!
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 10, 2021 20:05:28 GMT
Valtteri's radio voice when he wins or gets pole is seriously impressive, full-bodied tone and clear and full of confidence. Shame it's the last we will hear of it.
He could make it as a proper broadcaster.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 14, 2021 11:11:41 GMT
the fucking crocodile tears notes app van der linde did after this, man. sad!
never fear, the BTCC is here:
matt neal is totally right. you wouldn't such a move if you didn't mean to do it. it was harsh, maybe not entirely fair, but it is what it is. it's how you race touring cars and, GT3 regs aside, the DTM is still nominally a touring car series. everybody calls ayrton senna the greatest of all time after he did that to prost...twice; adelaide 1994 and jerez 1997 get played to death as examples of MSC's will to win. this was no way near as dangerous as those incidents and doesn't come close to some of verstappen's first lap antics (particularly when he was younger). this should be considered absolutely unacceptable in open wheel motorsports, that is evident. touring cars however aren't open wheel and, as not very nice a move as it was, contact is permitted. it's shit but is what it is.
him then saying "us drivers are forced to make split second decisions" is disengenuous is far more egregious, i think, than just doing it and living with the heat and not doing it again (or, like matt neal or jason plato, lucas di grassi in formula e - embracing it)
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 16, 2021 13:28:35 GMT
the fucking crocodile tears notes app van der linde did after this, man. sad!
never fear, the BTCC is here:
matt neal is totally right. you wouldn't such a move if you didn't mean to do it. it was harsh, maybe not entirely fair, but it is what it is. it's how you race touring cars and, GT3 regs aside, the DTM is still nominally a touring car series. everybody calls ayrton senna the greatest of all time after he did that to prost...twice; adelaide 1994 and jerez 1997 get played to death as examples of MSC's will to win. this was no way near as dangerous as those incidents and doesn't come close to some of verstappen's first lap antics (particularly when he was younger). this should be considered absolutely unacceptable in open wheel motorsports, that is evident. touring cars however aren't open wheel and, as not very nice a move as it was, contact is permitted. it's shit but is what it is.
him then saying "us drivers are forced to make split second decisions" is disengenuous is far more egregious, i think, than just doing it and living with the heat and not doing it again (or, like matt neal or jason plato, lucas di grassi in formula e - embracing it)
I liked his last sentence that he'll be better next year, though. So Imola and Portimão have been patched into the F1 game. I forgot how rubbish I was at Imola :P it flows so nicely you're constantly tempted into carrying too much speed into the big breaking areas.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 16, 2021 13:29:33 GMT
And yeah, it feels wrong watching DTM being a GT3 chassis series, it doesn't look mighty anymore.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 24, 2021 21:00:25 GMT
Comrade Kimi spinning out of the points 😢
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Post by Bartman on Oct 24, 2021 22:49:15 GMT
Comrade Kimi spinning out of the points 😢 genuinely ruined my evening, pal 😢
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Post by Bartman on Oct 24, 2021 22:54:55 GMT
i didn't get to watch the race - though i had it on the radio - as we were decorating in the new flat tonight. race sounded exciting enough, never ended up being a wheel to wheel battle but the championship is kept alive (unlike in motogp, thanks for costing me money pecco.
track limits sounded like an absolute piss take today and alonso probably should've had a points finish rather than retiring with "a broken rear wing" 8 or so laps from the end, from 13th or wherever he was. respect him for consistently trying to find race control's limits in the most egregious way possible. i realise i've given him a kicking as much as anybody has these past few years, and i don't necessarily want to, but the team that micharl masi has put together, seemingly his inability to command respect from teams and drivers and, it seems, his own weakness really is doing the sport a diservice.
BTCC finale was today and i was unable to watch it. going to have to do that tomorrow.
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Post by forgotten in space on Oct 25, 2021 11:38:09 GMT
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Post by Bartman on Oct 26, 2021 21:38:14 GMT
this is another one of those things that, as time has passed, has got me way more annoyed. jolyon plamer and jack nicholls mentioned it at the time - and then again on the bbc f1 podcast - that this was all fun and well, happening between comrade kimi, darth maul and tony g for 13th place but there was a really good chance that sometihng like this could've happened at the front, between max verstappen and lewis hamilton, for the race win, for the world championship...and what would race control have done? a decision was made in canada, 2019. i disagreed with it and it was controversial but it was made quick and stood. next race in austria, between leclerc and verstappen on the last lap/second last lap, there was controversy. the championship was over, it was fine, sharl lost a win but that was all. if there was a repeat of the last five laps at bahrain from earlier this year, i don't know if red bull (or mercedes) call back their driver ahead of being penalised - if there'd be a penalty.
i don't know, we're heading to a championship finale in which fastest laps might end up deciding who wins, race control really need to be clear and consistent as to what is allowed and what isn't allowed. if there are two drivers that would make a title fight a knife fight, it's lewis and max, and i don't trust the stewarding, the direction, as things are.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 29, 2021 20:57:51 GMT
i usually disagree with this lad's videos and, two minutes in i know that he is not serious by only putting juan pablo montoya 10th on this list
the list:
1. mick sr
2. rulebook johnson
3. comrade kimi
4. jenson button
5. lewis hamilton
6. big seb vettel
7. felipe massa
8. mark webber
9. rubens barrichello
10. juan pablo montoya
i agree with the top three, the order i don't know if i agree with every day but i am fine with it. the names and placement of the rest, i disagree :p
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Post by Bartman on Oct 31, 2021 11:10:34 GMT
this era of car on this circuit - still gravel traps and grass, 130r hadn't been reprofiled - is absolutely divine
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Post by Bartman on Oct 31, 2021 12:54:51 GMT
this is fucking ridiuclous
both the driving but mostly the "safety" features meant to stop dangerous things happened. this ain't happening with gravel.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 31, 2021 18:36:05 GMT
an absolute legend, retires
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Post by forgotten in space on Nov 1, 2021 21:33:36 GMT
this era of car on this circuit - still gravel traps and grass, 130r hadn't been reprofiled - is absolutely divine I had always heard that keeping the left foot on the brake while accelerating was a negligible thing, must be one of those things where the details get lost among all the regs and technical changes.
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Post by forgotten in space on Nov 1, 2021 21:37:43 GMT
this is fucking ridiuclous
both the driving but mostly the "safety" features meant to stop dangerous things happened. this ain't happening with gravel.
Yeah, that was insane, could have been way worse. As for the drivers, they had it coming.."oh nevermind me, just gonna casually push my team mate off track because why the hell not". Speaking of which, you will probably not agree with me here, but so disappointed with several drivers after the COTA race speaking about the track limits thing, saying stuff like "yeah if you're on the outside I'll just push you off-track". Stupid kids spoiled by asphalt run-offs. (Not that it's their fault)
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Post by Bartman on Nov 2, 2021 11:53:05 GMT
I had always heard that keeping the left foot on the brake while accelerating was a negligible thing, must be one of those things where the details get lost among all the regs and technical changes. as far as i understand, it's to enable better accelerating and shifting out of the corner, which is why mick sr was so mega through medium speed corners. kimi, esp in the 2000s used that technique a lot too and i think that it was fairly common for rally drivers too. generally just to add stability and confidence when exiting the corner.
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Post by Bartman on Nov 2, 2021 11:58:06 GMT
Yeah, that was insane, could have been way worse. As for the drivers, they had it coming.."oh nevermind me, just gonna casually push my team mate off track because why the hell not". Speaking of which, you will probably not agree with me here, but so disappointed with several drivers after the COTA race speaking about the track limits thing, saying stuff like "yeah if you're on the outside I'll just push you off-track". Stupid kids spoiled by asphalt run-offs. (Not that it's their fault) i can understand where they got this mindset from because from the age of like 5/6 they are told to take every inch of track that they can and so if the risk is minimal to both them and their rival, i can understand how they rationalise that mindset. the alonso incidents the other day was a great case of this, he's on a journey of discovery to figure what you can do as he grew up back when race tracks actually had track limits :p
even in america, a lot of the younger drivers when they reach the ovals don't seem to consider that there are walls on both sides of the track and that, just because there is more road to go on, you can't run the entire track at every point in a race/stint.
though the drivers are ultimately responsible for their driving, i can see how we got here. i just don't like here
alternatively, you can just be like lewis and charge them off whether there is a gravel trap or not.
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Post by Bartman on Nov 7, 2021 5:24:36 GMT
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