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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 3, 2020 10:40:00 GMT
grosjean having break problems 25 minutes into the season is peak haas and peak grosjean As long as they understand the tyre operating window now, having only break issues is progress :p |
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 11:13:51 GMT
As long as they understand the tyre operating window now, having only break issues is progress :p the car actually looked somewhat drivable from magnussen's onboards so definitely an improvement on last season! |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 3, 2020 11:54:10 GMT
Netflix is filming Drive to Survive season 3?!
I absolutely love the show but there's massive staff reduction at the track because of the virus, how on Earth are they essential there?
(Though if they do get the tone right -which they did with Hubert) it might be some compelling viewing.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 13:47:35 GMT
red bull have filed a formal complaint re DAS, i think it said citing DAS going against the ban on moving aerodynamic parts. red bull said they don't want to have the result possibly be in doubt on sunday but some think red bull might have their own version built and ready to go...
the pink jordans are very very fast! it might look like we have a top four this year but that mercedes appears to be in a class of its own. still, this might be the year of lance stroll podiums!
Netflix is filming Drive to Survive season 3?! I absolutely love the show but there's massive staff reduction at the track because of the virus, how on Earth are they essential there? (Though if they do get the tone right -which they did with Hubert) it might be some compelling viewing. i'd imagine with liberty's current financial situation, netflix cash is going to be deemed very much essential! i think a coronavirus-paddock drive to survive could be a fascinating watch for sure.
i'm not sure what the media situation is like at the circuit, now i think about it. i know that sky and bbc are there - because they both do world feeds. sky seem to be running a skeleton crew with neither anthony davidson or karun chandhok there , the big analysis television is back in london with them too. although, they have both paul di resta and martin brundle there for colour commentary plus jenson button for analysis, plus croft, kravitz and co so i amn't sure what that's about. i don't know if david coulthard and ben edwards are there for channel 4, i think that production crew still does broadcasting for some asian and african stations, they might just be locked in a cupboard somewhere doing coverage. no idea which print media, if any, have been allowed in.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 3, 2020 17:33:41 GMT
I think no print media at all is allowed there, Sky doesn't actually have their own race director and shit, do they? Not sure why they should be allowed there.
FIA already said DAS is legal (not sure why it is feckin allowed) so this is just Red Bull doing the paperwork for their own version.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 3, 2020 20:00:29 GMT
0.6s to the nearest car in both sessions. Jesus wept :/
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 22:15:36 GMT
as far as i know, all direction is done entirely in house now. a couple of years ago i think there were still a few local directors - canada and mexico stick in my mind for whatever reason - but i think it's all done by liberty now. chris medland of racer magazine has got himself into the red bull ring somehow, i don't think he has any connection to f1's online brand/media core (corp?) so i guess some have been let in. it's all a bit strange (and anglo-centric).
yep, the DAS situation does seem to be like red bull checking that their version will be legal. kind of the like the "clarifications" they/honda kept asking for re ferrari last season. gary anderson wrote an interesting article about it:
going to be interesting if it is found legal and a certain pink car might also be able to run it, having a very similar suspension to the mercs.
0.6s to the nearest car in both sessions. Jesus wept :/ aye, seeing some potential similarities with 2014 here: utterly dominant mercedes up front with three teams fighting for second best (funnily enough red bull, ferrari and jordan being among them again). obviously that's based off only two practice sessions at one of the weirder tracks on the schedule but still fairly worrying.
it's fine, nascar's xfinity series is running the indianapolis grand prix circuit tomorrow so that'll be fun at least!
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 22:27:09 GMT
intersting analysis from sam collins
racing point turning up with mercedes' melbourne-spec wing is class. i respect their hustle.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 3, 2020 22:52:59 GMT
we'll be seeing the red bull and jordan DAS system for the next race then!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 4, 2020 3:55:02 GMT
It is stupid, it looks stupid,I hope their wheel jam constantly :p
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 10:42:12 GMT
i don't think hamilton is fully comfortable with it yet, so maybe bottas will have a headstart after all! :p from how it sounds like they're using it, on outlaps, i can see merc maybe taking every pole this year and being deadly fast on the restarts  ferrari showing good pace during this practice session though.
can't remember which commentary team said it yesterday but apparently george russell is one of only three full season williams drivers to not score a point, the others being alex zanardi and kazuki nakajima. those two turned out and had exceptional careers in spite of this! though not in formula one, mind.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 12:14:29 GMT
so after four hours of practice, the last session seems to suggest more or less what i thought the running order might be:
mercs
verstappen
perez
albon
ferraris
stroll
the midfield looks exciting, i think renault have the edge in that battle. the alpha tauri looks quite pacey when they want it to be.
the rear looks to be
magnussen
alfas
grosjean
williams.
so much pressure on latifi this year. if there's a day when williams are quite a bit off the pace of 9th, it might be especially rough for him compared to russell.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 13:22:30 GMT
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 4, 2020 14:18:22 GMT
Bottas better not have damaged the underbody with that off!
Great quali for Norris. Pity both Ferraris weren't out at Q2, to see both cars mix it up with the rest. :P
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 14:20:15 GMT
 neither of tracing point's drivers are renowned qualifiers so i still expect them to show up decently tomorrow. if albon stays a few tenths off the back max, i'm guessing that the odds on vettel at red bull next season will be even shorter . |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 4, 2020 16:19:06 GMT
Weren't the oval parts used by the Indy race course steeper? Or am I remembering wrong?
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 16:34:15 GMT
Weren't the oval parts used by the Indy race course steeper? Or am I remembering wrong? they only use the straight from the oval now!
when motogp started coming to indy (2008, i think?) they ran the opposite direction of f1, so rather than use turn 1 of the oval (terrifying enough in a car) they made a little left-right-left section (turns 12, 13 and 14 on the map below) and ran the rest of the course f1 did. for indycar, they made a few changes to the old first sector from the formula 1 circuit to make it more race-y and kept the twisty bit at the end of the course.
tl;dr the greyed out bit between the 12 and main straight used to the final corner/michelin destroyer, got changed for motogp safety and indycar just kept it for the non-oval version
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 16:55:01 GMT
banked corner or not, oliver askew still managed to pull a ralf there. heavy hit.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 17:55:40 GMT
scott dixon is a terrifyingly good driver
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 4, 2020 20:04:59 GMT
I got on the phone with my mate (his birthday today but I'm not coming over 'cause pandemic) and completely forgot to keep watching the race :|
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Post by Bartman on Jul 4, 2020 20:17:55 GMT
I got on the phone with my mate (his birthday today but I'm not coming over 'cause pandemic) and completely forgot to keep watching the race :| completely fair! i rescheduled a weekly chess game with a pal because indycar > everything 
depending on when you stopped watching, a couple of cautions happened and then scott dixon was way up the road. simon pagenaud had a hell of a drive back to 3rd too. onto the nascar xfinity series at road course now. so far, surprisingly little carnage. there's rain possibly on its way though so that'll be...interesting.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 5, 2020 12:43:36 GMT
red bull protested hamilton's fastest qualifying lap, hamilton is now starting 5th with the implication that verstappen is on the front row.
turns out snitching does work.
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Post by Bartman on Jul 5, 2020 13:35:22 GMT
stroll and ricciardo breaking down simultaneously to save the blushes of ferrari and vettel there tbh |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 5, 2020 14:18:35 GMT
Haas goddamnit
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Post by Bartman on Jul 5, 2020 14:19:39 GMT
haas are gonna haas
i stuck 50p on albon to win this, with a £33 return. starting to think maybe a £5 wouldn't have been too risky...
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Post by Bartman on Jul 5, 2020 14:48:17 GMT
so the last 20 laps or so were eventful.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 5, 2020 14:48:47 GMT
Hamilton, Seb and Perez driving like they're the only cars on track...old heads driving like kids/Max :p
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Post by Bartman on Jul 5, 2020 14:55:07 GMT
Hamilton, Seb and Perez driving like they're the only cars on track...old heads driving like kids/Max :p i've said this forever but for not having ten world championships between them, hamilton and vettel don't have great spatial awareness! i had no idea what perez was doing having already received a 5 second penalty.
i hope that one day alex albon can finish on the podium!
lewis hamilton perceiving having a competitive team mate again is interesting. he seemed different to the lewis of the past few years this weekend.
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Post by forgotten in space on Jul 5, 2020 22:04:33 GMT
so the last 20 laps or so were eventful. To be fair that's a good assessment, before the safety cars there was a period where every car had an even gap between each other and nothing much would happen. That said they better not take a page out of Nascar's book of cautions because there's imaginary debris on the track. :P |
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Post by Bartman on Jul 6, 2020 8:19:42 GMT
To be fair that's a good assessment, before the safety cars there was a period where every car had an even gap between each other and nothing much would happen. That said they better not take a page out of Nascar's book of cautions because there's imaginary debris on the track. :P hahaha, yeah, it felt almost like one of indycar's "we need to run another 6 lap behind the safety car to make full use of the television window" cautions. the stint of the race was deathly dull: the racing point-ferrari-mclaren train being unable to overtake each other concerned me a little bit. if overtakes are hard to come by at austria, hungary is going to be dire.
that said though, DRS is still bad and it was taking the piss yesterday (when people were able to get a pass from it...)
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ferrari showing good pace during this practice session though.
