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Post by heini92 on Jun 4, 2017 21:47:45 GMT
And the riff after the growl The best bit for sure. Rest is meh Better than Atlas though, what a cluster fuck  Can't believe I waited so long to comment on that cluster fuck of a last sentence in your post. Atlas is life! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 22:14:51 GMT
Atlas, Rice!  |
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Post by Jayzon on Jun 5, 2017 8:32:16 GMT
TDTNC is a turd.
My alternative thought: The Unforgiven III is the best Unforgiven.
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Post by Alan-P on Jun 5, 2017 11:11:38 GMT
TDTNC is a turd. My alternative thought: The Unforgiven III is the best Unforgiven. Agreed on TDTNC, fecking terrible. Unforgiven 2 is my favourite of the three. On that note, I really do not like DM. I'll be surprised if I ever listen to it again. Shelved with St Angry. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 12:42:45 GMT
Enter Sandman is a masterpiece.
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Post by yepsure on Jun 5, 2017 12:45:52 GMT
The Day That Never Comes > The Unforgiven 3 > Enter Sandman > The Unforgiven 2
All are songs I like and enjoy.
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Post by Jayzon on Jun 5, 2017 13:23:41 GMT
Enter Sandman is a masterpiece. How is that an alternative thought, exactly? Other than being rather overplayed, I rarely hear negative things about Sandy. |
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Post by lordcatfish on Jun 5, 2017 19:20:05 GMT
The Day That Never Comes > Sanitarium
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Post by Alan-P on Jun 5, 2017 19:23:26 GMT
The Day That Never Comes > Sanitarium  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 19:45:31 GMT
I've seen often that people don't like Attitude. I dig it.
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Post by heini92 on Jun 5, 2017 20:43:59 GMT
I've seen often that people don't like Attitude. I dig it. True. And Prince Charming. Actually two of my favorite tracks from Load/Reload. |
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Post by jackers on Jun 5, 2017 20:56:07 GMT
The problem with TDTNC and UN3 is their execution. I only appreciated their great melodies after listening to the youtube covers on piano/violin/cellos etc. Weak vocals, thin guitars, terrible production, lack of atmosphere really strip those songs from everything. Oh and the "love is 4 letter word/this I swear" part is awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 20:59:52 GMT
DM needed better overall production.
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Post by Jayzon on Jun 6, 2017 7:15:32 GMT
The Day That Never Comes > Sanitarium Equally bad. |
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Post by waunakonor on Jun 6, 2017 20:14:46 GMT
DM needed better overall production. Bold hot take right here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 21:49:21 GMT
DM needed better overall production. Bold hot take right here. I was responding to the previous post. Some would just say it needed to 'sound' better. Most all the instruments (and vocals) needed performance production. 2 different things. Hence, 'overall production.' |
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Post by SicJes on Jun 6, 2017 21:55:02 GMT
DM needed Bob Fucking Rock, not that lazy piece of crap.
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Post by slowdive on Jun 7, 2017 1:38:36 GMT
DM needed Bob Fucking Rock, not that lazy piece of crap. St. Anger didn't need Bob Rock. DM and HTSD needed Andy Sneap. |
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Post by SicJes on Jun 7, 2017 1:50:31 GMT
Rock produced the best sounding Metallica albums in their whole catalogue with one exception, which was intensional. St Anger needed Bob the most on a whole other level so I'll let some crappy choices slide.
If DM had that 90s crushing metallica sound, it would be hard to top.
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Post by slowdive on Jun 7, 2017 2:51:28 GMT
Rock produced the best sounding Metallica albums in their whole catalogue with one exception, which was intensional. St Anger needed Bob the most on a whole other level so I'll let some crappy choices slide. If DM had that 90s crushing metallica sound, it would be hard to top. Yes, he did. Their best studio sound was between Black and Garage Inc. Flawless productions. St. Anger, though intentional, was a really bad job. Lots of pro-tools and copy paste, that resulted in a really sterile and uninspired sounding album. The poor delivery from the band also didn't help. The intent was a garage sound, but it failed. That's not a garage sound, that's just a bad sound. If they went for something dirty, like some Melvins albums, that are intentionally dirty, but still very heavy... That might have worked better. But the songs are beyond redemption, even with a better production job. So, it is what it is... As for DM: i can't stand the album, so i can't agree with it being hard to top, even in their prime. The songwriting is weak and uninspired, in my opinion. Better than St. Anger, sure, but still pretty weak for Metallica's standards. It's just all over the place, riffs after riffs that don't go anywhere, weird vocal patterns, cringy lyrics, and the songs sound rushed and sloppy. However, if, as you said, it was recorded with Metallica's early 90's sound, Hetfield's voice and all... It would have been MUCH better. But that's a hard exercise, because DM's songs wouldn't fly with their standards in the early 90's. With a third of those riffs, they would have made a great album with different lyrics and a totally different feel. And much better solos. But, for the sake of argument: if the songs were exactly the same, but with their Black Album era sound and vocals, it would have been decent. But not great. Not even in their prime, could they make such an unfocused album sound great. |
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Post by SicJes on Jun 7, 2017 3:18:49 GMT
DM, besides a few cringe lyrics, is Ace IMO. I listened to that CD, and mostly only that CD, for a good 4-5 years nonstop after its release. I love that album. Was waiting like 16 years for that kind of Metallica album. Still makes me grin like a kid when I listen to it.
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 7, 2017 4:34:03 GMT
Agreed, its an amazing album.
Besides, bad lyrics can be found on every single Metallica album so that's a silly thing to judge Dm by.
Just with HW production Dm would have been a top effort in my book.
+ Andy Sneap is as hit and miss as the next guy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 11:01:53 GMT
Thorn Within is Metallica's most underrated song, yes, it's better than Outlaw Torn.
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Post by lightning master on Jun 7, 2017 11:55:47 GMT
Atlas, Rice! My creation:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 12:17:24 GMT
It's weird Atlas Rise doesn't sound like a Hallowed Be Thy Name rip off anymore, it was really bugging me when i first heard it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 18:38:21 GMT
I don't like Call of Ktulu, it's yawnsome.
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Jun 9, 2017 20:39:00 GMT
Fixxxer is Metallica's A National Acrobat.
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Post by waunakonor on Jun 10, 2017 18:19:14 GMT
I don't understand what that means. That it's really good?
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Post by tribeleader on Jun 10, 2017 18:41:58 GMT
I think he means it's never going to be played live.
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Jun 11, 2017 1:00:56 GMT
I mean it just has the similar progression, at least to me. I might be out of my gord, but I listened to the two songs the other night and the first like 2 minutes sounded pretty similar, like they kind of took some chords from it. I don't know maaaaaaannn!
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