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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 23, 2016 13:39:11 GMT
Glad I don't give a shit about what a band looks like, all I care about is if the music is good. True. I don't usually take the time to discuss a band's look either, if they are releasing quality material.
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Post by Kimbo on Nov 24, 2016 15:43:54 GMT
Glad I don't give a shit about what a band looks like, all I care about is if the music is good. True. I don't usually take the time to discuss a band's look either, if they are releasing quality material. That makes no sense
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Post by Alan-P on Nov 24, 2016 16:31:43 GMT
True. I don't usually take the time to discuss a band's look either, if they are releasing quality material. That makes no sense He's implying Load is shit...
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Post by Kimbo on Nov 24, 2016 16:57:15 GMT
He's implying Load is shit... Yes but if an album is shit you start discussing their look, but if it's good you don't? Moronic
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Post by Alan-P on Nov 24, 2016 17:13:24 GMT
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 24, 2016 19:15:33 GMT
He's implying Load is shit... Yes but if an album is shit you start discussing their look, but if it's good you don't? Moronic It's almost as if he's frantically searching for excuses to talk about Metallica's image.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 24, 2016 19:46:19 GMT
Maybe he got sad when they changed their look cuz he couldn't play with his pp to them anymore?
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Post by ampman on Nov 24, 2016 20:07:46 GMT
Hey knock that off, we don't say shit like that here.
We say COCK
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Post by jetpacksam on Nov 26, 2016 4:08:38 GMT
It's hilarious that now "Cliff would show resistance" when for years when any 80's fan said that the party line was "No one knows what Cliff would think". Well you knew him James, quite well, and now seem to be regretting the choices you and Lars made.
While I don't actively hate that era, to say it is as good as the 80's is laughable, and James' statement proves it.
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Post by Harvester Of Magnets on Nov 26, 2016 4:23:41 GMT
Mid 90s Metallica was something, all right. I don't think it was them selling out. Load and ReLoad were collectively weird albums by Metallica standards, along with the imagery. Selling out would have been making Black Album II.
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Post by jetpacksam on Nov 26, 2016 4:29:58 GMT
Actually selling out was Metallica, the album.
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Post by Kimbo on Nov 26, 2016 8:04:57 GMT
Selling out is the worst and most stupid term ever
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Post by lightning master on Nov 26, 2016 9:11:00 GMT
While I don't actively hate that era, to say it is as good as the 80's is laughable, and James' statement proves it. Proves it? No, it doesn't prove anything about that.
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Post by warhorsewarhead on Nov 30, 2016 20:39:06 GMT
Sure, Cliff may have shown resistance, but we can't draw the conclusion that he would have showed resistance in favour of steering the band back to it's Thrashier roots. Cliff's diverse musical interests are a known factor.
We shouldn't forget that James showed resistance in the Load era as well. He talked about going along with the imagery stuff just as a concession to Lars, being that Lars was very much getting into art by that stage and wanted to commandeer the the visual direction.
But, to me, some of Metallica's best songwriting will always be on the Loads. It's an album that eschewed themes of death, violence and war for more sombre personal struggles, and some of the lines that Hetfield is coming out on it are just pure poetry. And a song like 2x4? Still a badass tune that'll put a bit more hair on your chest every time you listen to it. People saying Metallica weren't heavy enough in the 90s.....Pffft, fuckin' talk to 2x4...Was that ever put on an official t-shirt? I'd buy it.
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Post by yepsure on Dec 1, 2016 9:24:37 GMT
Sure, Cliff may have shown resistance, but we can't draw the conclusion that he would have showed resistance in favour of steering the band back to it's Thrashier roots. Cliff's diverse musical interests are a known factor. We shouldn't forget that James showed resistance in the Load era as well. He talked about going along with the imagery stuff just as a concession to Lars, being that Lars was very much getting into art by that stage and wanted to commandeer the the visual direction. But, to me, some of Metallica's best songwriting will always be on the Loads. It's an album that eschewed themes of death, violence and war for more sombre personal struggles, and some of the lines that Hetfield is coming out on it are just pure poetry. And a song like 2x4? Still a badass tune that'll put a bit more hair on your chest every time you listen to it. People saying Metallica weren't heavy enough in the 90s.....Pffft, fuckin' talk to 2x4...Was that ever put on an official t-shirt? I'd buy it. I love 2x4. Such a cool song with so much fuckin' groove in it.
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Post by Kimbo on Dec 1, 2016 9:25:19 GMT
Sure, Cliff may have shown resistance, but we can't draw the conclusion that he would have showed resistance in favour of steering the band back to it's Thrashier roots. Cliff's diverse musical interests are a known factor. We shouldn't forget that James showed resistance in the Load era as well. He talked about going along with the imagery stuff just as a concession to Lars, being that Lars was very much getting into art by that stage and wanted to commandeer the the visual direction. But, to me, some of Metallica's best songwriting will always be on the Loads. It's an album that eschewed themes of death, violence and war for more sombre personal struggles, and some of the lines that Hetfield is coming out on it are just pure poetry. And a song like 2x4? Still a badass tune that'll put a bit more hair on your chest every time you listen to it. People saying Metallica weren't heavy enough in the 90s.....Pffft, fuckin' talk to 2x4...Was that ever put on an official t-shirt? I'd buy it. I love 2x4. Such a cool song with so much fuckin' groove in it. Their most groovy song ever, love it
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Post by Alan-P on Dec 4, 2016 9:15:04 GMT
They 2x4 version they did at Donington 95 pisses all over the studio version, from a very great hight.
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Post by SicJes on Dec 4, 2016 16:30:55 GMT
They 2x4 version they did at Donington 95 pisses all over the studio version, from a very great hight. That version sounds so much more mean then the studio version. I can see why they went with the more "Rock" sound with Load, and it works for most of the songs, but man, if only some of those songs had more crunch. Hate, Jack, 2x4, Thorn etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 20:38:14 GMT
They might have all shown resistance to Load if they knew it was coming in 1986. Musicians don't know what they're gonna be into in a decade. Hell, they can change their minds on what they like in a short amount of time.
This is why, and I'm surprised even Het is doing this shit, the whole 'If Cliff was alive' kind of thinking is silly. If Lars had died in 86 and Metallica went on to do something like Load or whatever, I'm sure people would be saying 'If Lars was alive.'
Thinking for dead people = fail.
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Post by thegeneral on Dec 7, 2016 19:13:23 GMT
I can kind of see why James thinks that Cliff may have felt this way. The Load albums lack the balls of previous Metallica albums.
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Dec 7, 2016 19:54:40 GMT
"Cliff Burton would have shown resistance"
Translation: Cliff would've told them what he thought about Lars and Kirk's gay tongue kiss picture.
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