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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:26:20 GMT
I'd wager money that the majority of you who are saying that Rob is "better" are only doing so because he's the current salaried employee in the position. If he's better than Newstead, as some of you say, please quantify why you think he's better? Is it just about him shutting his mouth and doing what he's told by James? He's a better bass player and pushed them to embrace their past more. The band has said many times that on of the reasons we got Frayed and all of these rarities live is because Rob was very persistent in pushing the band to play them. I honestly believe we wouldn't be getting these kick ass albums without him. Jason left, get over it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:31:54 GMT
Also I'm willing to bet Jason was more of a yes man. When he finally did say no and didn't get his way he left the band. Says a lot about him.
It seems like if the guy gets knocked down/doesn't get his way he has a habit of quitting.
Rob is a professional who puts a lot of work and effort into his playing. I would say Rob and James probably have the strongest drive in the band, and it shows.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:34:48 GMT
HE FOCKING LEFT THE FOCKING BAND!
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 19:37:14 GMT
I'd wager money that the majority of you who are saying that Rob is "better" are only doing so because he's the current salaried employee in the position. If he's better than Newstead, as some of you say, please quantify why you think he's better? Is it just about him shutting his mouth and doing what he's told by James? id say from just a bass playing perspective and nothing else that he is better because he plays with his fingers like cliff did and he can better replicate cliffs sound. Jason is a pick player and sounds more like a guitar player than a bassist There have been like 3 people who have responded saying that Truji is supposedly a better bassist. Do 3 opinions account for the majority? Question for you: when did you start following met? Same question to the guy with booze in his avatar and the one who told me to "get over it". I'm just curious .. |
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Post by ampman on Nov 19, 2016 19:37:49 GMT
Had James let Jason re-enter the band, I don't feel they'd be here today bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. The thing is, "they" aren't here bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. Their last 2 albums wouldn't even crack my top 500 list. They're now old, gray, bald and giving us an inferior product with inferior players. That's the ugly reality. Mets creative juices dried after "Black", and they officially died when Jason left. "That's the ugly reality" oh fuck off. It's your opinion not some truth we all deny. And Rob being an inferior player is completely false. Jason couldn't play Anesthesia for example, Rob can. Rob has never had problems with any of Jason's stuff at the very least. Oh and please spare me your guesses about who would have more hardcore fans agree with them. Because first of all, they're guesses, and second of all, it doesn't matter in the slightest who agrees with you. It's all opinion. |
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Post by Metallicanatic on Nov 19, 2016 19:39:17 GMT
Mods...You really need to start screening new members before you let them post.
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Post by ampman on Nov 19, 2016 19:40:26 GMT
id say from just a bass playing perspective and nothing else that he is better because he plays with his fingers like cliff did and he can better replicate cliffs sound. Jason is a pick player and sounds more like a guitar player than a bassist There have been like 3 people who have responded saying that truji is supposedly a better bassist. Do 3 opinions account for the majority. Question for you: when did you start following met? Same question to the guy with booze in his avatar and the one who told me to "get over it". I'm just curious .. And stop asking when people started listening to the band. Even if they haven't been fans for long it has no bearing on this "discussion". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:40:32 GMT
id say from just a bass playing perspective and nothing else that he is better because he plays with his fingers like cliff did and he can better replicate cliffs sound. Jason is a pick player and sounds more like a guitar player than a bassist There have been like 3 people who have responded saying that truji is supposedly a better bassist. Do 3 opinions account for the majority. Question for you: when did you start following met? Same question to the guy with booze in his avatar and the one who told me to "get over it". I'm just curious .. Why does it matter? We've all heard the same songs... Oh let me guess, you started listening to them in the 80s so you are a "true" fan. |
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Post by SicJes on Nov 19, 2016 19:45:40 GMT
Instead of the question "is Jason better than Rob"? How about the question "who would have been a better pick than Rob"? I think the answer would fall completely flat. Peter Steel? Tom Araya? |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 19:49:29 GMT
Let's just say that i'm fairly confident that the majority of you who are here clamoring about how Truji is "better" than Newstead have probably been following Met for 10 years or less. Just a hunch ..
And that's not an insult, it's just not overly uncommon for someone who is lesser experienced with a band at their peak to be more accepting of the "now", regardless of the quality degradation(s). You want to feel like you are experiencing the legacy, of that once successful band, and will be more willing to ignore certain negatives, despite how obvious they may be.
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Post by Metallicanatic on Nov 19, 2016 19:53:30 GMT
Let's just say that i'm fairly confident that the majority of you who are here clamoring about how Truji is "better" than Newstead have probably been following Met for 10 years or less. Just a hunch .. And that's not an insult, it's just not overly uncommon for someone who is lesser experienced with a band at their peak to be more accepting of the "now", regardless of the quality degradation(s). You want to feel like you are experiencing the legacy, of that once successful band, and will be more willing to ignore certain negatives, despite how obvious they may be. Did Rob sleep with your girlfriend or something? Jeez... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:53:37 GMT
Stop whining.
It's annoying. If this makes you so angry that every post has to bash the band I will ask again, why are you here?
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Post by ampman on Nov 19, 2016 19:53:40 GMT
You know I think the only rule here is to not be a cunt. So how in the world have you managed to fuck up something so simple?
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Post by forgotten in space on Nov 19, 2016 19:53:40 GMT
Rob is probably a much better player than Jason is, but Metallica's music doesn't require a virtuoso bass player.
My main issue is not with Rob who is a pretty cool dude and much better at his instrument than the other guys (though I lost a lot of respect for him and Mike Bordin over those re-recordings on the Ozzy albums). It's just that his time in the band is NOW, the twilight of Metallica's career. They're not in their prime, long lapses between recordings, inferior records, etc...and personally I haven't followed the band much/don't care much for them since St.Anger, so that influences things too.
I personally think Jason was a better fit energy wise and live, made them feel like a much tighter, metal-wise unit. But they were in their prime back then, touring and recording often.. it made it feel much easier to get a feel of the whole band.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:54:17 GMT
id say from just a bass playing perspective and nothing else that he is better because he plays with his fingers like cliff did and he can better replicate cliffs sound. Jason is a pick player and sounds more like a guitar player than a bassist There have been like 3 people who have responded saying that Truji is supposedly a better bassist. Do 3 opinions account for the majority? Question for you: when did you start following met? Same question to the guy with booze in his avatar and the one who told me to "get over it". I'm just curious .. 94.ive read every book and have seen almost every concert |
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Post by forgotten in space on Nov 19, 2016 19:56:58 GMT
"That's the ugly reality" oh fuck off. It's your opinion not some truth we all deny. And Rob being an inferior player is completely false. Jason couldn't play Anesthesia for example, Interesting to hear this. Where was it revealed? |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 20:00:56 GMT
"That's the ugly reality" oh fuck off. It's your opinion not some truth we all deny. And Rob being an inferior player is completely false. Jason couldn't play Anesthesia for example, Interesting to hear this. Where was it revealed? anesthesia isnt really that hard. Im sure jason could play it |
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Post by SicJes on Nov 19, 2016 20:02:29 GMT
Let's just say that i'm fairly confident that the majority of you who are here clamoring about how Truji is "better" than Newstead have probably been following Met for 10 years or less. Just a hunch .. And that's not an insult, it's just not overly uncommon for someone who is lesser experienced with a band at their peak to be more accepting of the "now", regardless of the quality degradation(s). You want to feel like you are experiencing the legacy, of that once successful band, and will be more willing to ignore certain negatives, despite how obvious they may be. I've been following since 91, I love Jason, but... He was a dork, That Supernova thing was stupid, Echobrain sucked balls, He tried to break up Metallica, He cut his hair first, He played with a pick, His solo project was shit, He fell off the Justice stage, His big My Friend of Misery contribution was a rip off of Pulling Teeth, He sucked ass playing the intro to Bells, He did not let me use a flash when I took a picture with him so I never got that picture, He was too cheap for room service, Now that I have sunk to your level of trolling shall I go on. Jason is the future, Metallica is the past, Lol. |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 20:02:37 GMT
Stop whining. It's annoying. If this makes you so angry that every post has to bash the band I will ask again, why are you here? I'm not whining .. not at all, actually. You're the one who refuses to newer a simple question, such as when you first started listening to the band. It's not an overly personal question, so I'm not sure why you find such difficulty in answering it. Just because I prefer the bassist that they had in their prime, instead of an inferior one that just covers that guy's material, doesn't mean I'm "bashing the band". I don't like Mets work post Black. That's not bashing, it's a statement of fact. |
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Post by Metallicanatic on Nov 19, 2016 20:06:22 GMT
if Jason had never left Metallica, they would likely be in a very similar position to where they are right now....Only with an inferior bass player.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 20:08:33 GMT
Stop whining. It's annoying. If this makes you so angry that every post has to bash the band I will ask again, why are you here? I'm not whining .. not at all, actually. You're the one who refuses to newer a simple question, such as when you first started listening to the band. It's not an overly personal question, so I'm not sure why you find such difficulty in answering it. Just because I prefer the bassist that they had in their prime, instead of an inferior one that just covers that guy's material, doesn't mean I'm "bashing the band". I don't like Mets work post Black. That's not bashing, it's a statement of fact. thanks for sharing that for the 100th time. Its sooo interesting every time you say it. I really just can't get enough |
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 19, 2016 20:10:58 GMT
I started following them around 2011, not that that matters at all.
When did you start following them, Ms. Downer?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:14:48 GMT
Stop whining. It's annoying. If this makes you so angry that every post has to bash the band I will ask again, why are you here? I'm not whining .. not at all, actually. You're the one who refuses to newer a simple question, such as when you first started listening to the band. It's not an overly personal question, so I'm not sure why you find such difficulty in answering it. Just because I prefer the bassist that they had in their prime, instead of an inferior one that just covers that guy's material, doesn't mean I'm "bashing the band". I don't like Mets work post Black. That's not bashing, it's a statement of fact. Want to say it again? |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 20:15:52 GMT
I started following them around 2011, not that that matters at all. When did you start following them, Ms. Downer? Unfortunately, you missed a lot of really cool shit, my man. If you were able to experience one or more late 80s/early 90s shows, you'd probably better understand why watching them look like complete tools on Jimmy Fallon, or releasing DM, is pretty embarrassing for a long-time fan. |
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 19, 2016 20:19:06 GMT
I started following them around 2011, not that that matters at all. When did you start following them, Ms. Downer? Unfortunately, you missed a lot of really cool shit, my man. If you were able to experience one or more late 80s/early 90s shows, you'd probably better understand why watching them look like complete tools on Jimmy Fallon, or releasing DM, is pretty embarrassing for a long-time fan. Uh huh. And what about those people who have been following them for decades and also like their recent material? Why have you not said anything to them? Because they don't fit your narrative? And you still haven't said how long you've been following them. |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 20:20:47 GMT
Unfortunately, you missed a lot of really cool shit, my man. If you were able to experience one or more late 80s/early 90s shows, you'd probably better understand why watching them look like complete tools on Jimmy Fallon, or releasing DM, is pretty embarrassing for a long-time fan. Uh huh. And what about those people who have been following them for decades and also like their recent material? Why have you not said anything to them? Because they don't fit your narrative? i know i said I've been following since 94 and he didnt say a damn word to me |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:23:45 GMT
I started following them around 2011, not that that matters at all. When did you start following them, Ms. Downer? Unfortunately, you missed a lot of really cool shit, my man. If you were able to experience one or more late 80s/early 90s shows, you'd probably better understand why watching them look like complete tools on Jimmy Fallon, or releasing DM, is pretty embarrassing for a long-time fan. Youtube. It sounds like the only thing I missed was a banjo like bass tone and a guy screaming over Hetfield. |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 20:29:49 GMT
Uh huh. And what about those people who have been following them for decades and also like their recent material? Why have you not said anything to them? Because they don't fit your narrative? i know i said I've been following since 94 and he didnt say a damn word to me You said that you've been following them since 94. You started following them after their best albums. What type of response would you like from me exactly? It seems a bit unusual that you would feel entitled to a response because you started following them post their best work and because you read a few books. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:32:14 GMT
i know i said I've been following since 94 and he didnt say a damn word to me You said that you've been following them since 94. You started following them after their best albums. What type of response would you like from me exactly? It seems a bit unusual that you would feel entitled to a response because you started following them post their best work and because you read a few books. Maybe because he still enjoys their music... Try harder. No one cares when you started following them. It doesn't matter. |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 20:36:08 GMT
i know i said I've been following since 94 and he didnt say a damn word to me You said that you've been following them since 94. You started following them after their best albums. What type of response would you like from me exactly? It seems a bit unusual that you would feel entitled to a response because you started following them post their best work and because you read a few books. im sorry that you must be in your 40's or 50's and don't understand that i can rewatch everything that you have seen by getting into the band a little earlier. I dont wanna hear "oh well you weren't there" or something of that sort because i have seen them live with jason numerous times |
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