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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 17:49:39 GMT
Next to Cliff, Newstead was the best bassist this band has ever seen. Even though I think Met's material declined long before Jason's departure, I think the band officially died when he left. Aside from the lack of quality new material, the live shows suffered greatly too. Trujillo's bass playing just sort of brings me down, and doesn't add any depth whatsoever to the old or new material, imo.
IF it was necessary for Met to carry on after Newstead left, I would have liked to have seen Mike Inez or Duff Mckagan fill Jason's shoes. In a perfect world, Met should have retired the brand and started a new project without him. Anyone else feel similar?
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Post by Zalman on Nov 19, 2016 17:54:25 GMT
Rob is amazing. I like him much more than Newsted.
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 17:56:16 GMT
Seriously? Out of curiosity, when did you start following the band?
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Post by Kimbo on Nov 19, 2016 18:01:56 GMT
I much prefer Rob, in every single way
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Post by SicJes on Nov 19, 2016 18:04:37 GMT
I grew up with the Jason era Metallica and met the guy so he will always be what seems right in Metallica for me, but I have grown to love Rob for all he has done and has to offer.
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 18:05:42 GMT
i'm not trolling anything. In fact, I'd bet money that the majority of Met fans would prefer Newstead over Truji. Everyone that I personally know does. I've seen Met 14 times throughout the years, so I have met and talked with plenty of Met fans. Our guess is that Truji's salary requirements were probably much less than others who would outshine him. It's almost always about money.
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Post by Alan-P on Nov 19, 2016 18:08:53 GMT
I'd prefer Jason over Rob as it's who I grew up with, but he's gone now, so it's really neither here nor there.
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Post by sindre on Nov 19, 2016 18:10:44 GMT
I'd prefer Jason over Rob as it's who I grew up with, but he's gone now, so it's really neither here nor there. This |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 18:24:04 GMT
Rob isn't the problem in Metallica believe me.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 18:41:08 GMT
Next to Cliff, Newstead was the best bassist this band has ever seen. Even though I think Met's material declined long before Jason's departure, I think the band officially died when he left. Aside from the lack of quality new material, the live shows suffered greatly too. Trujillo's bass playing just sort of brings me down, and doesn't add any depth whatsoever to the old or new material, imo. IF it was necessary for Met to carry on after Newstead left, I would have liked to have seen Mike Inez or Duff Mckagan fill Jason's shoes. In a perfect world, Met should have retired the brand and started a new project without him. Anyone else feel similar? why would you want inez or duff? Don't you like alice in chains and guns n roses? As far as newsted vs trujillo id take jason for his singing and energy and robert for his bass playing ability and frankenstien them together |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 18:41:22 GMT
Lol
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Post by fingerman on Nov 19, 2016 18:43:49 GMT
I got over it on DM.
Jason definitely brought a metal up your azz vibe live.
Ultimately he pushed his position too hard. Hard enough there was no coming back from it without damaging the band. Had James let Jason re-enter the band, I don't feel they'd be here today bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years.
So, if it can't be Jason, and it cannot be Jason, Rob is the absolute best fit from planet earth. They knocked it out of the park by picking Rob.
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Post by fingerman on Nov 19, 2016 18:44:52 GMT
Instead of the question "is Jason better than Rob"?
How about the question "who would have been a better pick than Rob"?
I think the answer would fall completely flat.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 18:48:37 GMT
Haha a funny thought i just had was when they played their 30th anniversary shows at the fillmore and they were playing with jason it was really metallica featuring rob trujillo
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Post by Jayzon on Nov 19, 2016 18:51:50 GMT
Haha a funny thought i just had was when they played their 30th anniversary shows at the fillmore and they were playing with jason it was really metallica featuring rob trujillo ... No, it really wasn't. |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 18:54:09 GMT
Next to Cliff, Newstead was the best bassist this band has ever seen. Even though I think Met's material declined long before Jason's departure, I think the band officially died when he left. Aside from the lack of quality new material, the live shows suffered greatly too. Trujillo's bass playing just sort of brings me down, and doesn't add any depth whatsoever to the old or new material, imo. IF it was necessary for Met to carry on after Newstead left, I would have liked to have seen Mike Inez or Duff Mckagan fill Jason's shoes. In a perfect world, Met should have retired the brand and started a new project without him. Anyone else feel similar? why would you want inez or duff? Don't you like alice in chains and guns n roses? As far as newsted vs trujillo id take jason for his singing and energy and robert for his bass playing ability and frankenstien them together Yes, I think both GNR and AIC are far superior bands than Metallica. Why would i want Inez or Mckagan over Truji? It's simple really, because they are both better bass players. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 18:54:41 GMT
Rob>Jason.
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 18:56:50 GMT
why would you want inez or duff? Don't you like alice in chains and guns n roses? As far as newsted vs trujillo id take jason for his singing and energy and robert for his bass playing ability and frankenstien them together Yes, I think both GNR and AIC are far superior bands than Metallica. Why would i want Inez or Mckagan over Truji? It's simple really, because they are both better bass players. ok so by that logic why would you want 2 bands that you like BETTER than metallica to lose key members? That was my point |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 18:57:40 GMT
Had James let Jason re-enter the band, I don't feel they'd be here today bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. The thing is, "they" aren't here bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. Their last 2 albums wouldn't even crack my top 500 list. They're now old, gray, bald and giving us an inferior product with inferior players. That's the ugly reality. Mets creative juices dried after "Black", and they officially died when Jason left. |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 19:00:31 GMT
Yes, I think both GNR and AIC are far superior bands than Metallica. Why would i want Inez or Mckagan over Truji? It's simple really, because they are both better bass players. ok so by that logic why would you want 2 bands that you like BETTER than metallica to lose key members? That was my point Did GNR cease to exist because AC/DC is on tour? Nope .. |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:01:11 GMT
The thing is, "they" aren't here bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. Their last 2 albums wouldn't even crack my top 500 list. They're now old, gray, bald and giving us an inferior product with inferior players. That's the ugly reality. Mets creative juices dried after "Black", and they officially died when Jason left. Did GNR cease to exist because AC/DC is on tour? Nope .. thats different. Guns and acdc are just touring bands now |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 19:03:06 GMT
Did GNR cease to exist because AC/DC is on tour? Nope .. thats different. Guns and acdc are just touring bands now Really? Last I heard, both intend to release new material. Axl mentioned this recently during his London exchange. |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:07:22 GMT
thats different. Guns and acdc are just touring bands now Really? Last I heard, both intend to release new material. Axl mentioned this recently during his London exchange. thats funny, i remember last time he said he intended to release an album. 2 decades later we got chinese democracy |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:08:14 GMT
Had James let Jason re-enter the band, I don't feel they'd be here today bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. The thing is, "they" aren't here bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. Their last 2 albums wouldn't even crack my top 500 list. They're now old, gray, bald and giving us an inferior product with inferior players. That's the ugly reality. Mets creative juices dried after "Black", and they officially died when Jason left. We get it. You don't like the new album. |
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 19, 2016 19:11:22 GMT
Even though I think Met's material declined long before Jason's departure, I think the band officially died when he left. Metallica did not "officially" die when Jason left and it still has not "officially" died because they're still active and making music. I get liking Jason more than Rob, although I personally disagree, but you seem really salty about something that happened 15 years ago. Rob joined the band and they seem really happy with him and I think that he's worked out well. |
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 19, 2016 19:12:24 GMT
Had James let Jason re-enter the band, I don't feel they'd be here today bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. The thing is, "they" aren't here bringing us one of the best albums in 30 years. Their last 2 albums wouldn't even crack my top 500 list. They're now old, gray, bald and giving us an inferior product with inferior players. That's my opinion. Mets creative juices dried after "Black", and they officially died when Jason left. Fixxxed |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:12:53 GMT
Even though I think Met's material declined long before Jason's departure, I think the band officially died when he left. Metallica did not "officially" die when Jason left and it still has not "officially" died because they're still active and making music. I get liking Jason more than Rob, although I personally disagree, but you seem really salty about something that happened 15 years ago. Rob joined the band and they seem really happy with him and I think that he's worked out well. i agree |
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Post by notinthislifetime on Nov 19, 2016 19:15:50 GMT
I'd wager money that the majority of you who are saying that Rob is "better" are only doing so because he's the current salaried employee in the position. If he's better than Newstead, as some of you say, please quantify why you think he's better? Is it just about him shutting his mouth and doing what he's told by James?
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Post by waunakonor on Nov 19, 2016 19:17:26 GMT
I'd wager money that the majority of you who are saying that Rob is "better" are only doing so because he's the current salaried employee in the position. If he's better than Newstead, as some of you say, please quantify why you think he's better? Is it just about him shutting his mouth and doing what he's told by James? I like his playing more. I think it's more interesting. I also kind of prefer his stage presence and general personal to the way Jason would often present himself. And I think that you'd lose that bet. |
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Post by suddendeth1320 on Nov 19, 2016 19:22:33 GMT
I'd wager money that the majority of you who are saying that Rob is "better" are only doing so because he's the current salaried employee in the position. If he's better than Newstead, as some of you say, please quantify why you think he's better? Is it just about him shutting his mouth and doing what he's told by James? id say from just a bass playing perspective and nothing else that he is better because he plays with his fingers like cliff did and he can better replicate cliffs sound. Jason is a pick player and sounds more like a guitar player than a bassist |
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