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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 4:44:16 GMT
Outlaw has soul to it. NTWD feels overly generic to me, with a touch of some Motley Crue or something in the main riff.
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Post by yepsure on Nov 3, 2018 5:00:51 GMT
Now That We’re Dead bores me, I skip it. What the hell man. You don't like those long groovy jams they do? I thought you liked Outlaw Torn. The cool Outlaw-bit is surrounded by boring, generic riffs/vocals. I don’t hate the song, it just doesn’t really appeal to me all that much. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 17:28:24 GMT
What the hell man. You don't like those long groovy jams they do? I thought you liked Outlaw Torn. The cool Outlaw-bit is surrounded by boring, generic riffs/vocals. I don’t hate the song, it just doesn’t really appeal to me all that much. NTWD>OT |
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Post by Jayzon on Dec 9, 2018 20:10:32 GMT
It makes me happy to see that there are others who don't really care for NTWD.
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Post by Alan-P on Dec 10, 2018 14:03:07 GMT
Now That We're Dead = The best song on the Album.
Best song they put out since Load.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 18:02:59 GMT
Wow. That's a pretty big insult.
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Post by Jayzon on Dec 10, 2018 18:21:59 GMT
Now That We're Dead = The best song on the Album. Best song they put out since Load. That's the biggest load of shit I've heard in a good while. You have horrible taste and should be ashamed. ASHAMED, I TELL YOU. |
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Post by Alan-P on Dec 10, 2018 20:53:39 GMT
You guys have no taste
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Post by Jayzon on Dec 10, 2018 22:28:37 GMT
No taste is better than horrible taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by SicJes on Dec 11, 2018 2:25:22 GMT
NTWD is very Reloadish. Could be side by side with Better than You, or Attitude. It just never clicked with me, very stock and cocky.
Of all the songs since Load, for me it has to be somewhere down near the bottom hanging out with... I don't know, I can't even think of any much worse than that one, Murder one maybe.
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Post by lightning master on Dec 11, 2018 7:21:20 GMT
I like Now that we're dead but the chorus just isn't strong enough, and especially not when it follows the best part of the song (the pre-chorus).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:23:40 GMT
Now That We're Dead = The best song on the Album. Best song they put out since Load. It's pretty good, HW and Spit are probably better though. |
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Post by warhorsewarhead on Dec 11, 2018 17:11:09 GMT
The problem that I have with HTSD is not even that it's a bad album. There are plenty of enjoyable moments on it. No, the problem I have is that the sense of progression in sound between DM & HTSD is so minimal that you could exchange songs between the two albums and not say that they sound out of place. And not only that, but both albums essentially have the band attempting to do things that they already did much better decades ago.
Now, that'd be one thing if the albums came out of the same sessions, like Load & Reload, but we're talking 8 years, here. You go back and you contrast AJFA and Load Metallica.....That's the same 8 year difference but you couldn't have two more different incarnations of the same band. So, it's a little sad that they went from that kind of attitude to being happy to put the feet up and make the same album until they retire, sort of like their contemporaries in the genre, and not make anything that challenges its fanbase.
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Post by lightning master on Dec 11, 2018 17:16:06 GMT
Now, that'd be one thing if the albums came out of the same sessions, like Load & Reload, but we're talking 8 years, here. You go back and you contrast AJFA and Load Metallica.....That's the same 8 year difference but you couldn't have two more different incarnations of the same band. So, it's a little sad that they went from that kind of attitude to being happy to put the feet up and make the same album until they retire, sort of like their contemporaries in the genre, and not make anything that challenges its fanbase. I think that they just don't feel that they have anything more to prove to anyone (themselves included) at this stage in their career but to keep going making and playing music. |
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Post by Jayzon on Dec 11, 2018 19:36:55 GMT
Well, seeing how they went from the worst album of their career to the best album of their career in those 8 years, I can't complain too much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 20:26:08 GMT
^lol & lol
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Post by Alan-P on Dec 11, 2018 22:05:13 GMT
Well, seeing how they went from the worst album of their career to the best album of their career in those 8 years, I can't complain too much. Am I still asleep? |
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Dec 12, 2018 4:03:55 GMT
Well, seeing how they went from the worst album of their career to the best album of their career in those 8 years, I can't complain too much. Am I still asleep? DREAMIN' NO MORRRRAAAHHHH!!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 13:03:36 GMT
The problem that I have with HTSD is not even that it's a bad album. There are plenty of enjoyable moments on it. No, the problem I have is that the sense of progression in sound between DM & HTSD is so minimal that you could exchange songs between the two albums and not say that they sound out of place. And not only that, but both albums essentially have the band attempting to do things that they already did much better decades ago. Now, that'd be one thing if the albums came out of the same sessions, like Load & Reload, but we're talking 8 years, here. You go back and you contrast AJFA and Load Metallica.....That's the same 8 year difference but you couldn't have two more different incarnations of the same band. So, it's a little sad that they went from that kind of attitude to being happy to put the feet up and make the same album until they retire, sort of like their contemporaries in the genre, and not make anything that challenges its fanbase. DM is probably their best album since TBA, i'm ok with it. HWTSD isn't too bad either. |
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Post by warhorsewarhead on Dec 12, 2018 17:25:28 GMT
The problem that I have with HTSD is not even that it's a bad album. There are plenty of enjoyable moments on it. No, the problem I have is that the sense of progression in sound between DM & HTSD is so minimal that you could exchange songs between the two albums and not say that they sound out of place. And not only that, but both albums essentially have the band attempting to do things that they already did much better decades ago. Now, that'd be one thing if the albums came out of the same sessions, like Load & Reload, but we're talking 8 years, here. You go back and you contrast AJFA and Load Metallica.....That's the same 8 year difference but you couldn't have two more different incarnations of the same band. So, it's a little sad that they went from that kind of attitude to being happy to put the feet up and make the same album until they retire, sort of like their contemporaries in the genre, and not make anything that challenges its fanbase. DM is probably their best album since TBA, i'm ok with it. HWTSD isn't too bad either. Death Magnetic was probably the first Metallica album that didn't really piss anyone off (a statistically negligible minority aside). The 80s albums pissed off the parents and the moral majority in general. The albums from 90 to 03 pissed off sections of the fan base. I'm just saying that there's something quite exciting and vital in creating that kind of friction. Everyone hates Lulu, but I have to admire the balls of Metallica for putting it out and making the Metal community as one say, "WTF is this??!!!!!". I enjoy DM and HTSD, don't get me wrong, but it's freeze-dried Metallica from here on out, I fear. It's a similar approach that Slayer and Megadeth take. Play it safe. Make the same album 'til you can make albums no more. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 19:18:01 GMT
Freeze dried Metallica was really the only option left. St. Anger was a hitting of the wall. It'd rather have good left overs than a shitty meal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 15:55:25 GMT
Ranking albums post TBA
DM
HWTSD
LOAD
RELOAD
ST ANGER
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Post by tribeleader on Dec 13, 2018 18:34:56 GMT
Moth Into Flame on its own beats the shit out of DM.
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Post by Jayzon on Dec 13, 2018 20:15:07 GMT
Ranking albums post TBA
HWTSD
ReLoad
Load
St. Anger
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ReLoad and Load are pretty much interchangeable as #2 and #3.
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Post by SicJes on Dec 13, 2018 20:51:12 GMT
Load/DM
HW
SA
Reload
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 15:40:10 GMT
Ranking albums post TBA HWTSD ReLoad Load St. Anger DM ReLoad and Load are pretty much interchangeable as #2 and #3. I think HWTSD and Load are similar in quality. DM is better though. |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Dec 17, 2018 20:34:28 GMT
No, the problem I have is that the sense of progression in sound between DM & HTSD is so minimal that you could exchange songs between the two albums and not say that they sound out of place. That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. They sound nothing alike. Every aspect sounds completely different between the two. |
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Post by Kimbo on Dec 22, 2018 7:15:49 GMT
They release metal records, everyone is happy, they release a different kind of metal album and people goes bonkers.
Then they release a few hard rock albums and people turn their backs on them. They experiment with some garage thing and everyone hates that too. Then they try some obscure stuff with an old dude, every goes completely mental and screams after som proper old metal.
After years and years they return to their roots and releases two old style metal albums... People: They are boring and freeze dried. Just plays the same old metal. Not moving forward, no experiments. Booooh.
It must not be easy.
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Post by warhorsewarhead on Dec 22, 2018 22:29:38 GMT
They release metal records, everyone is happy, they release a different kind of metal album and people goes bonkers. Then they release a few hard rock albums and people turn their backs on them. They experiment with some garage thing and everyone hates that too. Then they try some obscure stuff with an old dude, every goes completely mental and screams after som proper old metal. After years and years they return to their roots and releases two old style metal albums... People: They are boring and freeze dried. Just plays the same old metal. Not moving forward, no experiments. Booooh. It must not be easy. Metallica remained consistently popular throughout the 90s and it was only ever a certain amount of dogmatic Metal fans who turned their back on the band. However, this was a relatively small loss, easily absorbed by a band with Metallica's overall following. The record sales they continued to enjoy during this period and the mainstream visibility bears this out. It's very possible that Metallica simply enjoys now making records that hark back to a traditional Metal style, and that's great for them if that's the case. I was just noting that to that is also to lose one of their previously defining characteristics as a band, which was to do the unexpected rather than play it safe, and that's a pity. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 23:15:52 GMT
I think quality is the greater issue here overall than what style they are playing. Style change will upset a group, but another group will appreciate it, and how large that other group is, depends on quality. Style change + shit record = big blow back.
'Taking chances' while making a shit record is pretty disappointing. Style change might be interesting at first, but if the music sucks, who cares? No longevity there.
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