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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:28:25 GMT
You know a performance is good when even with the livemet mix it is awesome. No, it's not. It's decent/okay minus... I find it hard to enjoy that because the drums sound so shit - AGAIN. Everything else is okay, just fucking do something with the drums and I'm never gonna complain about LiveMetallica ever again. Who am I kidding, I enjoyed it. It's a live debut after all. But still, I'm laughing at the fact they can charge money for these last shows. Good for them, I guess. Yeah the drums sound like shit. It's sad because Lars has stepped his game up, but will always sound like shit because of the fucking horrible mix livemet uses. |
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Post by heini92 on Mar 8, 2017 20:34:55 GMT
No, it's not. It's decent/okay minus... I find it hard to enjoy that because the drums sound so shit - AGAIN. Everything else is okay, just fucking do something with the drums and I'm never gonna complain about LiveMetallica ever again. Who am I kidding, I enjoyed it. It's a live debut after all. But still, I'm laughing at the fact they can charge money for these last shows. Good for them, I guess. Yeah the drums sound like shit. It's sad because Lars has stepped his game up, but will always sound like shit because of the fucking horrible mix livemet uses. And the overall issue besides the mix is the fact that because of that, it doesn't do the band any justice because people will automatically give them shit for sounding abysmal, when the actual playing is great. Lars is playing better than I've thought was possible this last year, but a casual dude going on YouTube and checking out a LM recording is probably gonna think "wow, this sounds like shit, they probably suck live". |
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Post by flibblesh on Mar 9, 2017 11:11:38 GMT
The bass sounds great in the mix, but yeah the drums sound shit. And I'm still not the biggest fan of Het's latest guitar sound, you can really notice it on songs like this. But I still loved the performance and this song is one of my favourites. I haven't liked either of their tones in a long time, I can't even pinpoint what it is. It's like a lack of high mids or something, as if there's a duvet between the mics and cabs. |
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Post by yepsure on Mar 9, 2017 20:10:24 GMT
It's because they are using the AxeFX software amp modelling shit instead of real amps.
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Post by flibblesh on Mar 9, 2017 22:25:35 GMT
It's because they are using the AxeFX software amp modelling shit instead of real amps. Their tone has been off for years, long before AxeFX (which doesn't do what you're describing unless you've really purposefully done it) |
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Post by tribeleader on Mar 9, 2017 22:43:12 GMT
It's a similar to St. Anger tone.
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Post by SicJes on Mar 9, 2017 22:44:37 GMT
So we got 3 shows from now until may 9, that's kind of sad. Around 70 days until the real real "real" tour starts. Did they even release a new album last fall? Bizarre.
Any word on what they are up to for this next stretch? I wish they would bash out a mini cover album during this down time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 0:16:26 GMT
I'm just excited to see them.
The weird promotion cycle around this album has been discussed. I think it's fucking weird and boring but whatever. There is just so much dead space between events that it kills any momentum they manage to kick up. I've just accepted that this is how Metallica is going to be from now on, they are going to tour less and less and eventually stop all together.
I'm going to cry like a baby when that happens, but the process has started.
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Post by Kimbo on Mar 10, 2017 7:27:40 GMT
I'm just excited to see them. The weird promotion cycle around this album has been discussed. I think it's fucking weird and boring but whatever. There is just so much dead space between events that it kills any momentum they manage to kick up. I've just accepted that this is how Metallica is going to be from now on, they are going to tour less and less and eventually stop all together. I'm going to cry like a baby when that happens, but the process has started. The process started long ago though, but yeah it's heading in that direction for sure. I'm just not sure about the lack of hype you are talking about, I don't remember it being any different than the DM tour. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, sometimes less, sometimes more. Maybe it's because I don't really care about their touring anymore, I can't remember how involved I was in their touring at the time. I don't check to see when and where they are playing, I don't check the setlists and pics either, I don't even watch the video from the show, unless it's a rare song or a premiere. I guess it's hard to keep it alive when touring, I don't know what they could do to make it more interesting. Other than funny pre show videos, but is that really to hype it up ? How many watches those anyways. |
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Post by lightning master on Mar 10, 2017 10:05:17 GMT
Bring back metontour or just make a more ambitious try with the tour videos on metallica.com. I Want pre-show huddle, m&g footage, tuning room footage and a full song from the gig. Preferably in one video. What I don't want is 30 seconds of 3-4 songs from a show and some crowd footage in between or Master of puppets in full from a show where they played something more obscure than that. That doesn't really hype me up at least.
Maybe it's too much to ask for but it wasn't during their Death magnetic tour cycle and the years after that up until quite recently, so that difference and change surely doesn't help me feeling as hyped about their current tour as I could've been.
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Post by tribeleader on Mar 10, 2017 10:22:18 GMT
Bring back metontour or just make a more ambitious try with the tour videos on metallica.com. I Want pre-show huddle, m&g footage, tuning room footage and a full song from the gig. Preferably in one video. What I don't want is 30 seconds of 3-4 songs from a show and some crowd footage in between or Master of puppets in full from a show where they played something more obscure than that. That doesn't really hype me up at least. Maybe it's too much to ask for but it wasn't during their Death magnetic tour cycle and the years after that up until quite recently, so that difference and change surely doesn't help me feeling as hyped about their current tour as I could've been. Well, according to them , people (who probably heard only 4-5 songs) don't want MetOnTour videos with Tuning Room , M & G footage but they want Master of Puppets / One / Enter Sandman footage from every goddamn show. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 10:27:12 GMT
Bring back metontour or just make a more ambitious try with the tour videos on metallica.com. I Want pre-show huddle, m&g footage, tuning room footage and a full song from the gig. Preferably in one video. What I don't want is 30 seconds of 3-4 songs from a show and some crowd footage in between or Master of puppets in full from a show where they played something more obscure than that. That doesn't really hype me up at least. Maybe it's too much to ask for but it wasn't during their Death magnetic tour cycle and the years after that up until quite recently, so that difference and change surely doesn't help me feeling as hyped about their current tour as I could've been. Yeah I think that might be what's making me feel this way. Not only have the videos become kind of boring, but the audio quality might be the worst it's been since the St Anger tour. Which is also weird because they are taking even longer to release the shows. Eh. You don't know what ya got... Till it's COCKED. |
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Post by lightning master on Mar 10, 2017 10:39:10 GMT
Bring back metontour or just make a more ambitious try with the tour videos on metallica.com. I Want pre-show huddle, m&g footage, tuning room footage and a full song from the gig. Preferably in one video. What I don't want is 30 seconds of 3-4 songs from a show and some crowd footage in between or Master of puppets in full from a show where they played something more obscure than that. That doesn't really hype me up at least. Maybe it's too much to ask for but it wasn't during their Death magnetic tour cycle and the years after that up until quite recently, so that difference and change surely doesn't help me feeling as hyped about their current tour as I could've been. Well, according to them , people (who probably heard only 4-5 songs) don't want MetOnTour videos with Tuning Room , M & G footage but they want Master of Puppets / One / Enter Sandman footage from every goddamn show. Have the mods actually said that, or do you mean as in what Metallica's actions (or non-actions...) say in words? |
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Post by tribeleader on Mar 10, 2017 10:48:45 GMT
Well, according to them , people (who probably heard only 4-5 songs) don't want MetOnTour videos with Tuning Room , M & G footage but they want Master of Puppets / One / Enter Sandman footage from every goddamn show. Have the mods actually said that, or do you mean as in what Metallica's actions (or non-actions...) say in words? Yes, Dan actually said that views are dropped because of long metontour videos so they decided to do something different. |
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Post by Kimbo on Mar 10, 2017 11:47:50 GMT
Which is understandable and further proves my point, do we, the hardcore fans thinks it's fucked without cool metontour vids ? No doubt, does 95% of every crowd think the same ? They probably doesn't even know about all that stuff. I can surely understand why they can't be arsed putting so much time, effort and money into it. That said, I miss those videos like crazy, they were the best thing about Metallica, outside of their music of course.
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Post by lightning master on Mar 10, 2017 12:23:44 GMT
Have the mods actually said that, or do you mean as in what Metallica's actions (or non-actions...) say in words? Yes, Dan actually said that views are dropped because of long metontour videos so they decided to do something different. : ( Too bad! |
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Mar 10, 2017 15:42:12 GMT
I'm surprised casual Metallica fans who haven't really delved into the 12 years of MetOnTour videos would care that much about the length, quality, and content of the videos. I liked the Tuning Room videos, what other bands does that? Its fun to watch. Honestly, I wouldn't mind listening to Master of Puppets 100 billion times if they tweak the sound on the mix a bit. I've been listening to And Justice for All demos and they sound better than the MetOnTour mixes for the videos.
I know they don't take much time to make it really good, but like I pointed out in another thread, you could tell in the past they have messed around with different mixes and the ones from 2007 at least for the drums sound the best for the short based on the amount of time they have to release them. From what I noticed maybe its just me but from their recent video for Dream No More, it sounds like the drums are a little behind in the mix, maybe that's partially why it sounds a bit eh. I try not to complain a whole lot because this is free content, but the drummer in me want to hear nice punchy and dynamic drums.
Like listen to this and compare it to the Dream No More video.
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Post by sindre on Mar 10, 2017 16:54:10 GMT
That video above still has a horrible mix.
Their best sounding years were 2006-2007
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Post by SicJes on Mar 10, 2017 17:55:33 GMT
No one would buy the DVD's if all the online stuff was up to par.
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Post by heini92 on Mar 10, 2017 18:09:18 GMT
Why is the Copenhagen shows taking so long getting uploaded to LiveMetallica?
It's not like they are gonna sound good.
Or are they?! HAVE I GOTTEN THROUGH TO THEM?
Probably not.
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Post by sindre on Mar 10, 2017 18:21:14 GMT
Why is the Copenhagen shows taking so long getting uploaded to LiveMetallica? It's not like they are gonna sound good. Or are they?! HAVE I GOTTEN THROUGH TO THEM? Probably not. Because they have to add vocals from another show... Ref: Vocal track of Fade from Nimes and Mexico 09 are identical |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 20:53:00 GMT
Why is the Copenhagen shows taking so long getting uploaded to LiveMetallica? It's not like they are gonna sound good. Or are they?! HAVE I GOTTEN THROUGH TO THEM? Probably not. They said the first show wasn't going to get a Livemet release. Not sure about the rest. |
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Post by heini92 on Mar 12, 2017 11:36:23 GMT
The "first" Copenhagen show is out here. |
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Post by tribeleader on Mar 13, 2017 18:51:40 GMT
The "first" Copenhagen show is out here. And it still sounds terrible. |
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Post by heini92 on Mar 13, 2017 20:04:58 GMT
Of course, they should sack everyone responsible for okaying those shows.
And by "those" I mean every show since Webster Hall.
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Post by sindre on Mar 13, 2017 20:40:52 GMT
Of course, they should sack everyone responsible for okaying those shows. And by "those" I mean every show since Webster Hall. It sounds horrible. The mix is pure shit. Its a sackable offence, Mike Gillies. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 0:29:23 GMT
Kirk nailed the solo of Ktulu though. That's nice to see.
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Post by Kimbo on Mar 16, 2017 9:41:06 GMT
Another show in Denmark, one year from now and it's in a arena near me. Oh yes
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Post by Jayzon on Mar 16, 2017 10:10:21 GMT
Two arena gigs in Helsinki in May 2018. I think I might, as I much prefer arenas over stadiums.
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Post by jokk1 on Mar 16, 2017 10:10:31 GMT
I'm stoked about two shows in Helsinki, but less stoked about having to buy the tickets over a year in advance. Oh well, I probably should't complain.
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