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Post by Awake on Jun 9, 2023 7:07:20 GMT
So is Till innocent or guilty?
I think innocent. People are too sensitive nowadays. EVERYTHING is too much. I think some women smelled some money.
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Post by SicJes on Jun 9, 2023 12:00:24 GMT
The girls now a days would never have survived the 80s.
You think a guy with his status and money really needs to Bill Cosby chicks backstage. I smell a cash grab.
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Post by jorn on Jun 12, 2023 7:19:22 GMT
Unlike Metallica they need more old songs in the set. Wollt irh das bet im flammen sehen, Buck dich, Asche zu asche and Du riechst so gut need to come back. absolutely. and not just in the set. they seem to have lost the appettite for those type of songs. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 20, 2023 9:59:52 GMT
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Post by jorn on Jul 20, 2023 11:38:21 GMT
People meet up, drink alcohol and go to home together. People make these accusations as if one party is forced to this with the band members. These are rock bands having partying. What else these women were expecting to happen? Are they drugged? Are they forced? As it stated in their defense "“insufficiently substantiated facts” are exactly the case with the information in the article. I am not defending Till or Cristian or any other accused rock star but these kind of accusations sometimes have weak grounds. But people still love to lynch and cancel the said musician. This cancel culture thing is not working at all. People gather to accuse a rock band? Why because the accusations seem to fit the image in their minds. The only thing that bothers me is the age allegation. But let's not kid ourselves here. Stuff happens between 17-18. Sometimes some stupid young people make mistakes and even they brag about it later on. I bet many of the protester have similar 'crazy' stories. We are in an age where male and female younglings proudly joke and brag about being 'slutty'. After 20 years, they realized this was a problem. I understand why victims can come forward after so long but this sounds like wasn't the case with these woman. It's no secret that these guys enjoy underground lifestyles. They just like it. What else they expected to happen? P.S: I have no idea about the second womans story but there isn't much legal ground there to explore, it seems. A bad thing may have happened to her without her consent but it seems there were other people there and who actually caused it isn't clear. Besides she wasn't also very sure about whether it was voluntary or not. It's sad what happened to her but legal cases need stronger evidence. On the other hand, internet lynching does not need any evidence. That's the downside of all these cancel culture examples. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 28, 2023 17:56:48 GMT
People meet up, drink alcohol and go to home together. People make these accusations as if one party is forced to this with the band members. These are rock bands having partying. What else these women were expecting to happen? Are they drugged? Are they forced? As it stated in their defense "“insufficiently substantiated facts” are exactly the case with the information in the article. I am not defending Till or Cristian or any other accused rock star but these kind of accusations sometimes have weak grounds. But people still love to lynch and cancel the said musician. This cancel culture thing is not working at all. People gather to accuse a rock band? Why because the accusations seem to fit the image in their minds. The only thing that bothers me is the age allegation. But let's not kid ourselves here. Stuff happens between 17-18. Sometimes some stupid young people make mistakes and even they brag about it later on. I bet many of the protester have similar 'crazy' stories. We are in an age where male and female younglings proudly joke and brag about being 'slutty'. After 20 years, they realized this was a problem. I understand why victims can come forward after so long but this sounds like wasn't the case with these woman. It's no secret that these guys enjoy underground lifestyles. They just like it. What else they expected to happen? P.S: I have no idea about the second womans story but there isn't much legal ground there to explore, it seems. A bad thing may have happened to her without her consent but it seems there were other people there and who actually caused it isn't clear. Besides she wasn't also very sure about whether it was voluntary or not. It's sad what happened to her but legal cases need stronger evidence. On the other hand, internet lynching does not need any evidence. That's the downside of all these cancel culture examples. Kevin Spacey just got off his charges, so suppose you don't know which way it will go. |
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Post by Engel on Jul 31, 2023 0:40:43 GMT
www.presseportal.de/pm/62754/5566832There are real children out there being trafficked, abused or worse and then you get this lot. I bet every band alive is waiting on a #metoo if this played out in the favour of those accusing. There is no evidence- fact. Other girls there saw Shelby fill her water bottle with free tequila at pre party. She also stated she was not accusing him of drugging and raping her. BTW, why the fuck would Till?? I am pretty sure has no shortage of women only too willing. Just a fucking eejit who went on social media for some desperately wanted attention. Just my tuppence
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Post by jorn on Jul 31, 2023 11:20:05 GMT
People meet up, drink alcohol and go to home together. People make these accusations as if one party is forced to this with the band members. These are rock bands having partying. What else these women were expecting to happen? Are they drugged? Are they forced? As it stated in their defense "“insufficiently substantiated facts” are exactly the case with the information in the article. I am not defending Till or Cristian or any other accused rock star but these kind of accusations sometimes have weak grounds. But people still love to lynch and cancel the said musician. This cancel culture thing is not working at all. People gather to accuse a rock band? Why because the accusations seem to fit the image in their minds. The only thing that bothers me is the age allegation. But let's not kid ourselves here. Stuff happens between 17-18. Sometimes some stupid young people make mistakes and even they brag about it later on. I bet many of the protester have similar 'crazy' stories. We are in an age where male and female younglings proudly joke and brag about being 'slutty'. After 20 years, they realized this was a problem. I understand why victims can come forward after so long but this sounds like wasn't the case with these woman. It's no secret that these guys enjoy underground lifestyles. They just like it. What else they expected to happen? P.S: I have no idea about the second womans story but there isn't much legal ground there to explore, it seems. A bad thing may have happened to her without her consent but it seems there were other people there and who actually caused it isn't clear. Besides she wasn't also very sure about whether it was voluntary or not. It's sad what happened to her but legal cases need stronger evidence. On the other hand, internet lynching does not need any evidence. That's the downside of all these cancel culture examples. Kevin Spacey just got off his charges, so suppose you don't know which way it will go. that's true. I didn't follow his case closely but based on the outcome, they probably couldn't find any solid evidence. Being a creepy dude does not automatically mean you will lose the case. But Kevin Spacey lost his respect among his peers and seems like he has to earn his place again. If my memory serves me well, the accuser had a stronger legal ground than in Rammsteins case too. |
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Post by jorn on Jul 31, 2023 11:24:12 GMT
www.presseportal.de/pm/62754/5566832There are real children out there being trafficked, abused or worse and then you get this lot. I bet every band alive is waiting on a #metoo if this played out in the favour of those accusing. There is no evidence- fact. Other girls there saw Shelby fill her water bottle with free tequila at pre party. She also stated she was not accusing him of drugging and raping her. BTW, why the fuck would Till?? I am pretty sure has no shortage of women only too willing. Just a fucking eejit who went on social media for some desperately wanted attention. Just my tuppence Both cases seem like that. Sad it is for the victims (if there is any) but weak legal cases based on the information that surfaced so far. But I disagree that "any predator" could need these kind of things despite b finding a woman could be as easy as getting water. This is a different mindset. |
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Post by Engel on Jul 31, 2023 14:38:39 GMT
Agree to disagree with you on this one Jorn. If you genuinely felt you had been drugged and raped and assaulted physically, would your go to response be to share all on Twitter and YouTube? Weak evidence? It is non existent.
Again there are real fucked up predators out there and it never makes the media but a woman who woke up beside a keyboard player, 20 years later decides she may have been drugged and sexually assaulted... hmmmm reeks of money to me
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Post by Prometheus426 on Aug 29, 2023 17:06:35 GMT
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Post by jorn on Aug 31, 2023 11:40:01 GMT
Agree to disagree with you on this one Jorn. If you genuinely felt you had been drugged and raped and assaulted physically, would your go to response be to share all on Twitter and YouTube? Weak evidence? It is non existent. Again there are real fucked up predators out there and it never makes the media but a woman who woke up beside a keyboard player, 20 years later decides she may have been drugged and sexually assaulted... hmmmm reeks of money to me I'm not sure what is the difference here between you and me. I am on the same page with you. In this particular case, as stated in the next message, there wasn't any clear evidence. However, victims may take ages until they step up and rightfully so...it was not Till's case, it seems. |
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Rammstein
Oct 14, 2023 9:02:12 GMT
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Post by Engel on Oct 14, 2023 9:02:12 GMT
2024 tour announced! No Berlin or UK dates thus far.
Booked hotels for Dublin and Athens and hope to land tickets for each on Monday!
"There are three kinds of fire! First, is the fire of the mind, your thoughts. Second kind of fire is the fire of the heart. It’s your passion...and the third kind of fire, it’s just fire!”
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Post by Awake on Nov 4, 2023 9:05:38 GMT
Wait what? There's a new Lindemann album? There are 5-6 songs realeased and I didn't know.
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Post by Awake on Nov 4, 2023 9:35:54 GMT
Why is the cd only in the Rammsteinshop? It's not even on amazon.
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Post by Awake on Apr 1, 2024 9:36:32 GMT
I bought the album from rammsteinshop.de. Fucking expensive for a country that's next to mine.
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Post by Awake on Apr 9, 2024 11:33:51 GMT
The cd has just arrived. (It had arrived yesterday but I wasn't at home) Thank god it's a normal jewel case and not one of thos attrocious and annoying vardboard boxes.
The physical cd has one song more than the mp3 album. Ich hasse kinder is on here too.
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Post by Awake on Apr 9, 2024 13:21:30 GMT
What the hell is this?
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Rammstein
Apr 9, 2024 21:38:36 GMT
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Post by SicJes on Apr 9, 2024 21:38:36 GMT
It's Rodel by Till Lindemann.
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Post by Awake on Apr 10, 2024 8:00:34 GMT
Really? I didn't know that. You're a lifesaver.
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Rammstein
Jul 2, 2024 17:56:38 GMT
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Post by Engel on Jul 2, 2024 17:56:38 GMT
Saw my boys in Dublin other weekend. Phenomenal as usual. Time to start saving for next year ( hopefully another summer tour in Europe)
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