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Post by ford71V8 on Oct 9, 2024 2:44:49 GMT
So, Rick Beato just released his interview with Rick Rubin a few days ago. I didn't had the time to fully watch it, but is seems that there's not a single mention about Rubin's work with Metallica or about the clipping/brickwalled sound scandal from "Death Magnetic". It felt like a missed opportunity, since I've always wondered if he ever had any input about this during the production of what could have been the greatest post-2000 Metallica album. I intend watching the whole interview....will post here if there is any mention of Metallica work |
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Post by Jayzon on Oct 9, 2024 6:48:35 GMT
I'm confused. Are we talking about Death Magnetic or
the greatest post-2000 Metallica album which is quite obviously Hardwired... To Self-Destruct? |
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Post by davi84 on Oct 9, 2024 9:15:07 GMT
I'm confused. Are we talking about Death Magnetic or
the greatest post-2000 Metallica album which is quite obviously Hardwired... To Self-Destruct? Nah... Aside from the lyrics and some questionable editing choices, the whole instrumental work in DM is superior than what ended in HTSD and 72S. The potential is definitely there, but the sound and the editing (which are the producer main job) really messed up the end result IMHO. Just imagine DM with 72S lyrics and HSTD sound (maybe with the drums tamed down a little bit). Now add a little more editing and input over the Ulrich/Hetfield song structures. I think it would have been a whole other story... Just remember a time when Kirk was still a relatively functional human and could talk clearly and play without looking like he's fighting for his life. |
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Post by Jayzon on Oct 9, 2024 10:35:36 GMT
Nah. To me DM is the lowest point of Metallica's career, release-wise. Not just because of the horrible production, but songwriting, too. There's two songs on DM that I still regularly listen - The Unforgiven III and Cyanide. But mostly I just pass that album by. I listen to all other albums far more.
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Post by davi84 on Oct 9, 2024 11:10:38 GMT
Nah. To me DM is the lowest point of Metallica's career, release-wise. Not just because of the horrible production, but songwriting, too. There's two songs on DM that I still regularly listen - The Unforgiven III and Cyanide. But mostly I just pass that album by. I listen to all other albums far more. So you're telling me that you listen to St. Anger more than DM? I'm a St.Anger fan myself and I get the context where it sits, but I don't think DM is the lowest point of Metallica's carrer, specially regarding songwriting, while they have St. Anger in their catalog. But this really shows how music hits us all differently. For instance, Unforgiven III sounds bland as hell to me and I consider it the worst one of the trilogy (U2>U1>U3, IMHO). I've been regularly skipping that one on my playlists since it's launch. But hey, I'm not saying DM is their best album post-2000 (that would be 72S or HTSD, depending on my mood). But I think DM could have been it, just because it had the potential in its riffs, the momentum on its worldtour, and the vitality of a band that was 15 years younger than today. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 9, 2024 11:37:27 GMT
DM is their best album since TBA...
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Post by SicJes on Oct 9, 2024 13:00:25 GMT
Yeah, DM is in my top 3 albums from their catalogue. Best one since Load. So many amazing parts on there. Songs are all solid and most of the lyrics are fine...most.
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Post by Zalman on Oct 9, 2024 17:49:32 GMT
Death Magnetic might be my favorite Metallica album, period. I think it certainly would have been with better production.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 9, 2024 20:31:24 GMT
Death Magnetic might be my favorite Metallica album, period. I think it certainly would have been with better production. The clipping never really bothered me that much... |
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Post by davi84 on Oct 9, 2024 22:10:44 GMT
Death Magnetic might be my favorite Metallica album, period. I think it certainly would have been with better production. The clipping never really bothered me that much... The clipping bothers me quite a bit, but is the ear fatigue that's the worst part of it. I just can't listen to more than 5-6 songs on a row from this album without feeling the need for a pause. It really ruins the experience for me. |
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Post by Awake on Oct 10, 2024 5:50:37 GMT
The clipping never really bothered me that much... The clipping bothers me quite a bit, but is the ear fatigue that's the worst part of it. I just can't listen to more than 5-6 songs on a row from this album without feeling the need for a pause. It really ruins the experience for me. I haven't listened to the cliupping cd in a loooooong time. I've downloaded a Moderus' mix and burnt that to cd. |
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Post by davi84 on Oct 10, 2024 9:36:16 GMT
The clipping bothers me quite a bit, but is the ear fatigue that's the worst part of it. I just can't listen to more than 5-6 songs on a row from this album without feeling the need for a pause. It really ruins the experience for me. I haven't listened to the cliupping cd in a loooooong time. I've downloaded a Moderus' mix and burnt that to cd. I did that too, but the audio still too compressed for my taste. Also, it’s been a long time since I don't have a CD player nearby, and uploading local files to streaming services don't always work as smoothly as it should (I remember having to upload it about 3 or 4 times to Spotify or Deezer, because the apps just stopped showing them in my library). So eventually I've gave up and stayed with the official release, but had to deal with it's quirks. |
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Post by BMus1 on Oct 10, 2024 14:15:38 GMT
The Apple Music remaster is the ultimate version in terms of fidelity and lack of clipping, but it unfortunately highlights how dead and boring the actual mixing is. I kind of feel like the clipping was almost used to “creatively” liven up the dull mixes.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 10, 2024 17:44:12 GMT
The Apple Music remaster is the ultimate version in terms of fidelity and lack of clipping, but it unfortunately highlights how dead and boring the actual mixing is. I kind of feel like the clipping was almost used to “creatively” liven up the dull mixes. I've been meaning to get that, but seems like a con if i've already shelled out money for the CD (and burned out the MP3). |
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Post by Kimbo on Oct 10, 2024 19:32:58 GMT
The Apple Music remaster is the ultimate version in terms of fidelity and lack of clipping, but it unfortunately highlights how dead and boring the actual mixing is. I kind of feel like the clipping was almost used to “creatively” liven up the dull mixes. Lars did say they listened to the album several times with and without the clipping. They liked the clipped version more. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 10, 2024 19:42:18 GMT
The Apple Music remaster is the ultimate version in terms of fidelity and lack of clipping, but it unfortunately highlights how dead and boring the actual mixing is. I kind of feel like the clipping was almost used to “creatively” liven up the dull mixes. Lars did say they listened to the album several times with and without the clipping. They liked the clipped version more.  |
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Post by Zalman on Oct 10, 2024 21:12:21 GMT
Imagine DM with Hardwired/72S production... Not that those albums sound perfect, but it would have made a huge difference.
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Post by Wolfish on Oct 11, 2024 1:23:58 GMT
So, Rick Beato just released his interview with Rick Rubin a few days ago. I didn't had the time to fully watch it, but is seems that there's not a single mention about Rubin's work with Metallica or about the clipping/brickwalled sound scandal from "Death Magnetic". It felt like a missed opportunity, since I've always wondered if he ever had any input about this during the production of what could have been the greatest post-2000 Metallica album. I intend watching the whole interview....will post here if there is any mention of Metallica work One of the Metallica references found at Blabbermouth was -- if memory serves me well -- that Rubin used one of Metallica's albums as an example to tell Slayer what not to sound like when it comes to fast, thrashy songs, especially on the drums department. I think he meant that he wanted to achieve a crispier sound. It was around the time they were working on Raining Blood. I'm sure there must be a mention of the time Rubin worked with Metallica. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 11, 2024 17:09:12 GMT
What's your favourite Metallica songs to play on guitar? Mine: Master, Creep, Justice, Fuel.
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Post by SicJes on Oct 11, 2024 18:53:26 GMT
Oooooo
Probably
Orion
Fade
Creeping Death
Roam (that little interlude lead part 🤤)
Harvester
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 12, 2024 16:01:14 GMT
The interlude...
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Post by SicJes on Oct 12, 2024 17:02:21 GMT
when I got married, I downloaded all the beautiful parts like this and TLITD etc preformed by little quartets like this or symphonies. I had that playing while everyone was being seated and arriving. Was my little stress relief throughout the morning until the show got going. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Oct 26, 2024 12:03:45 GMT
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Post by Kimbo on Nov 1, 2024 7:32:27 GMT
Have this been posted about Lars and TAMA ?
Pretty cool watch
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Post by yepsure on Nov 1, 2024 8:28:02 GMT
very cool
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Post by BMus1 on Nov 1, 2024 13:32:45 GMT
Lars still loves Hardwired so much lol
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Post by Prometheus426 on Nov 3, 2024 11:47:39 GMT
Enjoyed seeing this live on tv
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Post by SicJes on Nov 5, 2024 2:14:39 GMT
These guys are super burnouts and a bit slow paced, but the info is still pretty cool.
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Post by ford71V8 on Nov 11, 2024 6:46:19 GMT
Linking to this just in case anyone here hasnt seen it up...
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Post by BMus1 on Nov 11, 2024 19:09:59 GMT
Kirk is so cooked.
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