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Post by BMus1 on Jul 6, 2024 20:44:49 GMT
Will they ever play a Death Magnetic song again that's not Day or Cyanide? End of the Line at the anniversary show seems to have been a one-off. I think UF III will re-enter rotation one day. TLOTL seemed like a one off but it might’ve been the best performance of the song so hopefully that’s not the case. BB&S is one that I figured would stick around longer but hasn’t. They brought it back after a few years in 2013, but iirc that’s the last time they’ve played it. |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 6, 2024 21:46:57 GMT
I'm thinking that Unforgiven III and BB&S will be played again. They might surprise us with My Apocalypse once or twice. Not so sure about the others though. The Judas Kiss would be pretty cool to hear live, though.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 7, 2024 12:52:49 GMT
Hetfield is tall  ....but not that tall  |
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Post by Zalman on Jul 7, 2024 19:50:46 GMT
Extremely hot take but I've kind of realized I don't enjoy Ride the Lightning (the album) that much anymore. For Whom the Bell Tolls and Creeping Death bore me. Fight Fire With Fire is my least favorite opener. Call of Ktulu is my least favorite instrumental. Fade to Black and the title track are the two I still enjoy, but I think I even prefer any of the other "similar" ballads to Fade to Black.
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Post by BMus1 on Jul 8, 2024 18:13:58 GMT
Extremely hot take but I've kind of realized I don't enjoy Ride the Lightning (the album) that much anymore. For Whom the Bell Tolls and Creeping Death bore me. Fight Fire With Fire is my least favorite opener. Call of Ktulu is my least favorite instrumental. Fade to Black and the title track are the two I still enjoy, but I think I even prefer any of the other "similar" ballads to Fade to Black. I'm right there with you. Fight and Trapped have always just been okay for me. Escaoe is meh. Ktulu is awesome, just long. I used to consider KEA the youthful, energetic but lesser album to RTL and MOP, but nowadays I group RTL together with KEA instead. Despite the tracklist similarities I've grown to notice way more similarities between KEA and RTL. And not that that diminishes the album, but I hear way more of "band trying to figure out how to be a band" than I used to.
Also a hot take: RTL is James' worst album riffwise? Some of the best riffs on the album are Kirk's (Trapped, Creeping Death's bridge), Dave's (most of Ktulu, parts of Ride), and Cliff's (Fight, Bellz). James's riffs (the main riffs of Lightning and Bellz, all of Fade to Black, Escape) serve the song wonderfully but are generally not riffs I think of when I think of James. Obvious exception is Creep.
Please correct me if I misattributed any of those riffs.
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 8, 2024 19:23:47 GMT
Those albums are just so overplayed by now, and how couldn’t they be. I understand what you guys are saying, but it’s almost unfair.
When I see someone rating HW or 72S 7 and then MOP 8.
It’s like… No matter what the arguments are it’s doesn’t make sense.
It’s a completely unfair comparison.
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Post by jayc on Jul 10, 2024 7:44:04 GMT
KEA and RTL are the albums I listen to least for sure. I find KEA to be a bit too primitive and RTL is full of songs where I prefer the live versions.
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Post by BMus1 on Jul 10, 2024 10:40:00 GMT
KEA and RTL are the albums I listen to least for sure. I find KEA to be a bit too primitive and RTL is full of songs where I prefer the live versions. Agreed. I’m not huge on RTL’s production either. KEA is raw, MOP is perfect for the time but doesn’t feel too dated, but RTL does. Holy reverb. |
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Post by jayc on Jul 10, 2024 11:25:10 GMT
KEA and RTL are the albums I listen to least for sure. I find KEA to be a bit too primitive and RTL is full of songs where I prefer the live versions. Agreed. I’m not huge on RTL’s production either. KEA is raw, MOP is perfect for the time but doesn’t feel too dated, but RTL does. Holy reverb. You've got it spot on there. I was trying to figure out why I don't go back to RTL as much and the reverbed production is it. I LOVE FFWF and RTL but I'll always seek out live versions. |
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Post by SicJes on Jul 10, 2024 13:41:27 GMT
With this AI shit going on these days, there must be a reverb removal set of code. Imagine getting a RTL with no reverb or way less... game changer.
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 10, 2024 15:32:24 GMT
I’m such an old cunt but I really don’t want any changes made to these albums. Yeah RTL is heavy on the reverb and it’s just as dated as watching a 90’s Schwarzenegger movie.
But I still prefer Predator, Commando and True Lies to most modern movies.
I have zero interest in listening to manipulated Metallica stuff. The only thing I ever bought into was Moderus’s DM versions. For obvious reasons. I only really listen to their live stuff anyway.
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Post by BMus1 on Jul 10, 2024 16:05:26 GMT
I don't mind hearing remixes, but I do respect Metallica's mentality to generally not change already released products. It adds to the charm of each of their albums having a very unique sound. I feel like Metallica was one of the first bands to have very notable, intentional production differences each record.
The exception to all this is the Apple remaster of Death Magnetic which was more than okay by me. I'm also hoping for a Fidelman remix of it at some point because he worked on the original album and it's musically in a similar vein to HTSD and 72S. But a Fidelman remix of RTL for example would be silly.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 10, 2024 17:45:41 GMT
I don't mind hearing remixes, but I do respect Metallica's mentality to generally not change already released products. It adds to the charm of each of their albums having a very unique sound. I feel like Metallica was one of the first bands to have very notable, intentional production differences each record. The exception to all this is the Apple remaster of Death Magnetic which was more than okay by me. I'm also hoping for a Fidelman remix of it at some point because he worked on the original album and it's musically in a similar vein to HTSD and 72S. But a Fidelman remix of RTL for example would be silly. With the RTL remaster the individual instruments were clearer but that was about it, not worth shelling out money for. |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 10, 2024 23:18:23 GMT
For the longest time, Ride the Lightning was my favorite Metallica album, or at least top 3. But I gotta say, I too have grown a bit tired of it. Actually, I nowadays rarely listen to the first three albums. For me, the "real" Metallica starts at Justice. Maybe Cliff was the problem!  |
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Post by yepsure on Jul 10, 2024 23:55:31 GMT
I think the only albums I've listened to in recent years have been 72 Seasons obviously, the Black Album and Load both which I find myself going back to for a couple of weeks each year. The rest of my Metallica consumption is live videos on YouTube. Maybe a random song from Garage/St. Anger/DM/HW from time to time. When the box sets have been coming out I go through phases of getting right into each era and listened to each album a lot during those times, but once that fades away I don't really have any desire to go back and listen again. The albums are so embedded into my mind I can "hear" them any time I want.
EDIT: Also I love the sound of Ride especially the guitar tone. I also love that every one of Metallica's albums up through to St. Anger had their own sound and character. Even Load / Reload sound different. DM/HW/72S sound more closely alike although DM with its issues has bit more "character" of its own.
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Post by jayc on Jul 11, 2024 7:07:59 GMT
I don't mind hearing remixes, but I do respect Metallica's mentality to generally not change already released products. It adds to the charm of each of their albums having a very unique sound. I feel like Metallica was one of the first bands to have very notable, intentional production differences each record. The exception to all this is the Apple remaster of Death Magnetic which was more than okay by me. I'm also hoping for a Fidelman remix of it at some point because he worked on the original album and it's musically in a similar vein to HTSD and 72S. But a Fidelman remix of RTL for example would be silly. I suspect we won't get a remix of DM but the remaster will be from final mixes not already brick walled. Story goes, when the files turned up for mastering, they were already brickwalled. Given that they didn't remix AJFA I can't see them doing that for DM. With the RTL remaster the individual instruments were clearer but that was about it, not worth shelling out money for. Your lack of understanding is staggering. The instruments can't be clearer without it impacting the overall mix ergo, there were far more things than just clearer individual instruments. People didn't have to shell out money. That's what Apple Music and Spotify are for. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 17, 2024 19:45:04 GMT
What bands would you like to see Metallica tour with (name 3)
Mastodon
Slayer
Opeth
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Post by ford71V8 on Jul 18, 2024 4:07:39 GMT
Mastodon
Opeth
ABBA
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Post by SicJes on Jul 18, 2024 4:56:06 GMT
Baroness
Kerry King
Alestorm
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 20, 2024 6:11:20 GMT
Mastodon is a curious band. I absolutely love their albums, and I especially rank Crack the Skye really high. But whenever I've seen them play live, maybe 4 or 5 times, they've sounded like absolute shit. Muddy, unclear, a total mess.
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Post by BMus1 on Jul 20, 2024 18:55:34 GMT
Mastodon is a curious band. I absolutely love their albums, and I especially rank Crack the Skye really high. But whenever I've seen them play live, maybe 4 or 5 times, they've sounded like absolute shit. Muddy, unclear, a total mess. I’ve never seen them, but I’ve watched them on festival live streams and keep up with their releases. Probably one of the most inconsistent bands I can think of. Still great overall, Leviathan is a masterpiece. I feel like nothing can beat Australia 2010 with Baroness and Lamb of God. |
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 20, 2024 19:26:50 GMT
Mastodon is a curious band. I absolutely love their albums, and I especially rank Crack the Skye really high. But whenever I've seen them play live, maybe 4 or 5 times, they've sounded like absolute shit. Muddy, unclear, a total mess. Same. I’ve seen them several times, I’ve always found them both shitty sounding and quite boring to be honest. Lamb of god always delivers! |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 21, 2024 10:12:21 GMT
Mastodon is a curious band. I absolutely love their albums, and I especially rank Crack the Skye really high. But whenever I've seen them play live, maybe 4 or 5 times, they've sounded like absolute shit. Muddy, unclear, a total mess. Same. I’ve seen them several times, I’ve always found them both shitty sounding and quite boring to be honest. Lamb of god always delivers! Maybe their stuff is just really, really hard to mix well live? In studio, they absolutely slay. |
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Post by SicJes on Jul 22, 2024 1:07:41 GMT
I saw them indoors in a big Fancy Arena 2 years ago. They sounded great. Mix was clear, music was good. After a few songs though it all started to sound the same so we went out to smoke.
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Post by yepsure on Jul 24, 2024 23:12:17 GMT
This video is really cool
The Lars interview is great too, havent watched the others yet...big time commitment
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Post by jayc on Jul 25, 2024 7:39:30 GMT
This video is really cool
The Lars interview is great too, havent watched the others yet...big time commitment
Yeah I'm saving those for a rainy afternoon. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Jul 25, 2024 10:25:54 GMT
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Post by jayc on Jul 25, 2024 10:37:09 GMT
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 27, 2024 11:49:14 GMT
Watching Metallica's recent tour vids got me thinking...are they too old to rock now?
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Post by Awake on Jul 27, 2024 12:21:01 GMT
Watching Metallica's recent tour vids got me thinking...are they too old to rock now? You thinking?  |
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