Question to those who have heard Lulu...

Metallica should have locked Lulu in Lars's vault and never let it out. It was a joke of an album, so fucking bad. A band as good as Metallica didn't need this collaboration.

Emotional delivery maaaan

Yup. You won't see Slayer doing a risky album. The biggest risk Slayer will ever take is doing a song which is 230 BPM and not 240 BPM in case they get accused of recording a ballad. 

I don't criticise them for doing the album, I just think the end result is shite.

This is good




This is not




Understand the difference Mastodude?

Hey Mastodude, could we not turn this into another thread where we argue with HR about whether or not Slayer is good? We get it, you like Mastodon and don't like Slayer. You're not changing anyone's mind about anything, least of all HR.

Anyway, if you want some fairly well conceived thoughts on this album, I'd recommend this review personally. It's a different perspective that what most people here have but it's definitely valid.


Hm, Lou Reed's definitely not for everybody, but you're talking out of your ass right here. He made a fortune out of writing great music that many people like.

I enjoy MMM more overall.

Perhaps, but as it is it's a bottom 1 Metallica album.

There is a really cool piece in an Issue of So What that talks about Metallica first meeting Lou and how Lars had to be the bridge of peace between Lou and James since they both have very ''Iconic'' personalities. Basicly, Lou was a super asshole at first when they met up to rehearse Sweet Jane and James got very ''Fuck you'' with him. By the end of the jam, they were super tight and Lou was like ''Hey, let's make an album'' and Metallica were like ''Sure'' to be polite but thinking it would never happen. Oh, and Lou thretend to beat up Lars using his Kung Fu moves and was serious about it.
I think Metallica were a bit scared of Lou and just kind of went with it fearing for their safety if they turned him down. He seemed like a bit of a nut job, but in an awesome kind of way.

The reason I made this thread is kind of to know what to expect going in and not from "tr00" metalheads

Oh yes I did.

I listened to this album today. And well, I don't even know what to say. It was good, but horrible at the same time. Honestly, the album seems to vary in quality track to track but I'd say for the most part Disc 1 is pretty good, while for the most part Disc 2 is pretty bad.

Brandenburg Gate is a horrible song, with really bad lyrics (I'm happy with my nappy) and Hetfield's "SMALL TOWN GURL" is really just horrible. There is nothing redeeming about this song. Thankfully, The View is pretty ok, with a good riff and some of Reed's best vocal performance on the album, which isn't saying anything but they fit the song pretty well. Best part is when Hetfield's angry vocals come in. Pumping Blood is even better, getting inside the head of an insane person is what it sounds like. The riff is awesome too.

Mistress Dread is the best song here, with an AWESOME riff and frantic energy. It really fits well with the "inside an insane person" feeling Pumping Blood gives. This violent riff is suited well with Lou's vocals which make the insanity more real. An awesome song. Iced Honey is a kind of stereotypical radio rocker, but there's nothing necessarily wrong with it. Cheat On Me does drag for too long (there intro lasts for 3 minutes before the actual song starts!) but I love how it builds up. Not a bad song. Now, that disc was good, I liked it, Brandenburg Gate is awful, but the rest of the disc isn't bad.

I wish I could say the same for disc two though. Frustration has a nice riff, but it makes up about 1/6 of the song and the rest is just more rambling from Lou, with no background music AT ALL. The lyrics here are pretty messed up "SPERMLESS...LIKE A GIRL" and the song itself is nearing a train wreck. It's not quite bad, but I don't think I'd ever listen to it in it's entirety again. Maybe once or twice, but that's probably it for maybe the next 3 years. Little Dog sucks even more, having Lou's musicless ramblings consume the entire song. I really kind of drifted off into space, not even thinking about anything at all during this song. I could've listened to The Judas Kiss or some other 8 minute song and that would've been better.

Dragon is okay but it's got some pretty...I don't even know...lyrics. It's a little underwhelming for it's long runtime though. Still, disc 1 quality song. The only really good track on this disc. But everything bad the album's done so far is nothing compared to the grand climax of...JUNIOR DAD! Quite possibly one of the worst songs I've heard in my life, this song spends the first 10 minutes being a boring bland crap like Little Dog, then the rest of the song is nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just some strings playing the same 2 notes with nothing else going on. That's it. Never have I checked how much time is left in the song this many times since I don't know. This song is an absolute train wreck, and every bit of hate the album gets this song deserves (Well, not ALL of it, I do not condone the guy who wished to kill Lou Reed for this album).

Nevertheless, this is one heck of a mixed album, but as it stands, it's not the musical equivalent of Satan. It was definitely like nothing I've heard before, that's for sure. Anyway that's my review of the album.

Lou Reed gave me hope.

Awh, c'mon guys! It's just art! :)