Opeth Thread

They still play older stuff but, that is going away too with the more music they make.

I agree man, this band is dying for me. I tried and have been patient, but it ain't happening. I don't care about the death vox, it's that the songwriting went into a shittier, more boring direction.

Even the last record, Fredrik said on camera, in front of Mikael that his favorite song on the record, can't remember the name, he liked it because it sounds more like older Opeth. Cheers to Fredrik for setting his balls out there.

I agree. A whole album of that is not good. What's the idea of bringing back 70's prog rock anyway, it always sucked.   

PC has some great songs on it. (Eternal Rains, Cusp of Eternity, Goblin). 

Good lord, the whole, "I miss when they wrote Still Life and Blackwater Park" is so tired. Not saying their new stuff has to be praised, but those albums were over 15 years ago. Their new stuff will never sound like that again. Even if Mikael was growling all over this record, I guarantee it would never sound like Still Life or Blackwater Park. Even if there were heavy-to-acoustic transitions, I still guarantee they would sound nothing like the albums they made 15 years ago.

The complaint is more bland than you think Opeth's new music is.

Their new shit sucks compared to their old shit. I'm not saying they should sound like their old shit, it's that if these were two separate bands, this new one is amateur hour in comparison. I'm not gonna magically forget a band's history. And if I did, I wouldn't like this band today that is called Opeth. It's by their past that I even bother to give their new shit a chance. They have well entered that territory of 'not many would care about this if it didn't say Opeth on it.'

And btw, if someone wants to say "I miss their old shit." I'd, you know, get used to that. That's their honest feeling and who cares if you're bored by that? It's a testament to how good that music was if someone still misses it after many years. And newer, shittier music only reminds them of that.

"Just not a fan of Opeth's musical direction at all. I miss the guys that made Still Life and My Arms Your Hearse"

Nothing wrong with him saying that. He doesn't owe you a different statement that you would like to hear.

Of course he's allowed to say it. Everyone says the same thing. It's like an assembly line. I'd rather know WHY people don't like it as much, instead of just referencing glory days albums. It's still a cop out to me. I'm not saying people can't say it. I'm saying that I'd rather people expand on it. I don't think Opeth's new shit is even close to the quality of their older albums. But I still think a lot of the acoustic intricacies and melodies are still quite strong. No one talks about that. They just sum it up to "old = good and new = bad". I guess people can't form thoughts to explain themselves beyond, "Oh, it's not the same as Still Life."

People just hold onto past glories all the time and it makes me chuckle. In 15 years, Opeth could still be making music, and then we'll have people saying, "Well, it's no Sorceress, but whatever. They were better back then."

Same with Hardwired not being Master of Puppets. Same with Dystopia not being Rust In Peace. Same with [new album here] not being [old classic]. It's the same shit all the time. So yeah, it gets boring. But oh well. I guess I won't expect to be wowed with any decent opinions.

There are some people making those types of statements but I think you exaggerate how prevalent they are. A lot of people miss Still Life and Blackwater Park, but not because they want Opeth to keep making albums that sound exactly like album but because they're great albums, and for a lot of people Heritage and Pale Communion are nowhere near that mark. You're complaining about one guy making kind of a dumb statement and it feels like you're acting like everybody is making those same kinds of statements.

What exactly are "decent opinions?" And why do I have the strong feeling that that essentially just means "opinions I agree with?"

Also, I wrote a fairly long post about why I thought Hardwired is not nearly as good as Metallica's older stuff, so long that someone complained that it was too long for them. But you probably ignored that because it doesn't fit your narrative. I don't feel like writing a mini-essay on why I don't think Heritage or PC are as good as some of Opeth's older albums, but that doesn't stop me from having that opinion.

Looks like the album is out there. I just downloaded it, I'll be listening later today. Some early impressions I've been reading pretty much cinfirm all the reviews saying its the best and heaviest record since Watershed, so I'm pretty stoked to hear it.

Listening to it now. Intro track is beautiful.

I doubt it. Its not supposed to be out yet (30th sep I think is the proper date)

Waiting for the day I can purchase it before listening, but that sounds like its gonna be worth the wait. Awesome

Finally got around to listen to this album, very underwhelming so far. I'll give it a few more spins during the next few days to see if it picks up.

It's growing on me, but need a couple clean listens to give it a definite rating. Better than the last two fo'sho.