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Post by Prometheus426 on Aug 1, 2024 3:57:08 GMT
Not to keen on Dream No More either...
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Post by Zalman on Aug 1, 2024 15:24:47 GMT
Death Magnetic was great when it came out. A lot of fans didn't expect for them to make another record after St. Anger, me included. So, getting DM was refreshing. However, looking back they recycled their old formula from previous albums. Banging opener, ballad for 4th song, instrumental towards the end, etc. TDTNC has always felt like a copy job to me...like they were trying to make another Fade to Black or One. I don't hate the song, just doesn't excite me. Since they've put out 2 more albums since DM, I like their creativity in songs like Atlas Rise, Halo on Fire, Spit Out the Bone, Shadows Follow. Let's hope they keep making music for years to come!
I think another thing that helps is that they didn't have TDTNC 2 and TDTNC 3 on Hardwired and 72 Seasons. It's starting to be more special. In my opinion Metallica ballads are almost always good. They're very consistent when it comes to those, which makes it even more of a shame that they haven't written any in a long time. TDTNC probably has my favorite clean guitar riff out of any of the similar songs. It's fun to play too. |
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Post by SicJes on Aug 1, 2024 16:24:05 GMT
TDTNC is top notch "Modern" Metallica. It is really fun to play along with. I agree, that clean main part is just beautiful. The "I'll splatter color on this gray" line just always gave me goosebumps.
The video, while I don't really get what the director was thinking as far as making it war related (that's what makes music good, we all interpret it in our own way) was amazing. The tension build up along with the music is just fantastic from a film makers POV. That slow mo face off between the guy in the road and the squad coming to help or kill just really puts you in the mindset of anyone in that kind of tense situation, whichever side you're on.
I'll never forget racing to an internet cafe at 2 in the morning after a work shift to log on to Mission Metallica and watch the video and hear the full song for the first time while all these smelly guys were surrounding me playing World of Warcraft.
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Post by jetpacksam on Aug 7, 2024 16:54:34 GMT
Kill "em All - Motorbreath
Ride The Lightning - Escape
Master Of Puppets - Orion
And Justice For All - To Live Is To Die
Metallica - Struggle Within
Load - Cure
Reload - Bad Seed
St. Anger - Sweet Amber
Death Magnetic - Suicide & Redemption
Hardwired - Dream No More
72 Seasons - Room Of Mirrors
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Post by Kimbo on Aug 8, 2024 6:13:19 GMT
Kill - Anesthesia
Ride - Escape
MOP - Leper
Justice - TLITD
Black - Tread
Load - Poor Twisted
Reload - Better than you
St. Anger - Invisible Kid
DM - UNIII
HW - Atlas
72 - Chasing Light
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Post by Kimbo on Aug 8, 2024 6:13:56 GMT
Hardwired - Dream No More whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
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Post by jetpacksam on Aug 8, 2024 10:52:18 GMT
Hardwired - Dream No More whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat I didn't like it. But then again, I love St. Anger so grain of salt there. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Aug 14, 2024 12:16:57 GMT
I didn't like it. But then again, I love St. Anger so grain of salt there. Dream No More is slow and plodding and not good, almost as bad as Lux Æterna |
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Post by SicJes on Aug 14, 2024 12:34:49 GMT
I hated Dream in much the same way I hated If Darkness had a Son at first. Over the years Dream No More has wiggled it's way into my heart, I still enjoy it more then Darkness, but I'm sure in a few years Darkness will follow the same path.
But I still think they're much more "entertaining" then s
Eye of the Beholder and Sand But True, but that's probably due to overexposure of the later two.
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Post by BMus1 on Aug 15, 2024 2:42:04 GMT
IDHAS is a great song, overstuffed with goofy stadium rock bits. The Jimmy Kimmel edit is still a better arrangement, even though I miss the extra chorus at the end.
Dream No More is the best song on Hardwired, yall crazy.
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Post by Zalman on Aug 15, 2024 15:37:56 GMT
IDHAS feels like one of those live songs where they extend certain parts of it for audience engagement except they made it to the studio version.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Aug 15, 2024 18:18:27 GMT
IDHAS is a great song, overstuffed with goofy stadium rock bits. The Jimmy Kimmel edit is still a better arrangement, even though I miss the extra chorus at the end. Dream No More is the best song on Hardwired, yall crazy. Only MU is worse than DNM... |
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Post by Zalman on Aug 15, 2024 20:31:41 GMT
Okay so in this thread I said Crown of Barbed Wire was the worst song on 72 Seasons.
I take it back.
I hated it because I grew attached to Kirk's original tuning room riff to the point where I learned it on guitar and played it for years. When they cut it short for the final song I felt personally offended. Then I saw the music video (worst video in the history of this band) and I hated the song even more.
Looking back at the whole album, it's one of the few songs that don't overstay their welcome. The track length is just right and the song doesn't really get boring. The riff is still amazing despite being altered, and I'm actually convinced the best riffs on this album came from Kirk.
Anyway, great song.
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Post by BMus1 on Aug 15, 2024 23:19:33 GMT
Okay so in this thread I said Crown of Barbed Wire was the worst song on 72 Seasons. I take it back. I hated it because I grew attached to Kirk's original tuning room riff to the point where I learned it on guitar and played it for years. When they cut it short for the final song I felt personally offended. Then I saw the music video (worst video in the history of this band) and I hated the song even more. Looking back at the whole album, it's one of the few songs that don't overstay their welcome. The track length is just right and the song doesn't really get boring. The riff is still amazing despite being altered, and I'm actually convinced the best riffs on this album came from Kirk. Anyway, great song. Glad to hear you've come around :) That's why I was drawn to it immediately too though, it has a sleek sense of writing they've only been able to capture a few times this century. I'm not huge on the chorus riff, but nothing stays it's welcome, and even though Kirk's original riff was chopped up it works perfectly in the context of the song. It's interesting to see how James/Lars hear riffs as chunks though and can isolate it that second half from the original idea, because Kirk's western riff had a much different vibe to it. And James' main riff is simple yet really smacks you in the face in a way a lot of his riffs don't on this album. I agree that Kirk might be the star riffwise on 72S, I wish I knew exactly what he and Rob wrote on their songs. |
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Post by benl on Aug 16, 2024 15:01:12 GMT
Okay so in this thread I said Crown of Barbed Wire was the worst song on 72 Seasons. I take it back. I hated it because I grew attached to Kirk's original tuning room riff to the point where I learned it on guitar and played it for years. When they cut it short for the final song I felt personally offended. Then I saw the music video (worst video in the history of this band) and I hated the song even more. Looking back at the whole album, it's one of the few songs that don't overstay their welcome. The track length is just right and the song doesn't really get boring. The riff is still amazing despite being altered, and I'm actually convinced the best riffs on this album came from Kirk. Anyway, great song. Glad to hear you've come around :) That's why I was drawn to it immediately too though, it has a sleek sense of writing they've only been able to capture a few times this century. I'm not huge on the chorus riff, but nothing stays it's welcome, and even though Kirk's original riff was chopped up it works perfectly in the context of the song. It's interesting to see how James/Lars hear riffs as chunks though and can isolate it that second half from the original idea, because Kirk's western riff had a much different vibe to it. And James' main riff is simple yet really smacks you in the face in a way a lot of his riffs don't on this album. I agree that Kirk might be the star riffwise on 72S, I wish I knew exactly what he and Rob wrote on their songs. Can either of you provide a link to the Tuning Room session video that shows Kirk playing the original riff? I haven't seen/heard it, but I'm very interested. thanks.
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Post by benl on Aug 16, 2024 15:33:52 GMT
Nevermind, I found it. It's crazy that riff is from 2017. I've never seen footage of them working on the same riff for so long!?
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Post by BMus1 on Aug 16, 2024 16:19:57 GMT
Nevermind, I found it. It's crazy that riff is from 2017. I've never seen footage of them working on the same riff for so long!? That’s par for the course for them after 2003. Riffs just get stockpiled and sorted through when they decide to make a record. You can actually hear the intro of Lux Aeterna in the Making of Hardwired video. My personal theory is that they wrote a majority of both of those songs in June 2016, and ended up choosing Hardwired over Lux. |
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Post by benl on Aug 16, 2024 17:31:39 GMT
I've seen plenty of their tuning room videos. They always crack me up, plus it's cool hearing them cover random songs. I'm guessing they aren't doing tuning room videos on this tour, which is a shame but I get it. Probably relates to the fact they didn't release behind the scenes of them making 72 Seasons songs. Maybe they're more creative when the camera isn't in their face!
That's interesting about hearing Lux aeterna with the making of hardwired the song, i'll check it out.
*I've seen the tuning room video of them playing Love Gun. I've never heard them admit that Kiss influenced them at all, but I'm sure they did a little bit.
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Post by SicJes on Aug 16, 2024 17:59:34 GMT
That riff in the rehearsal room was from Montreal right?
Rob looks so unimpressed in this clip LoL. I'd love for love gun to pop up in a show or on a new cover album.
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Post by BMus1 on Aug 16, 2024 22:14:24 GMT
72S - Room of Mirrors (better than all of these songs from the 90s on) Bad take lol. Sleepwalk is the worst, and maybe the cheesiest song they've done since Better Than You. The intro used to make me love the song, but nothing about it otherwise is redeemable until the outro. It's a shit sandwich with really good bread. Dumb Sandman-lite riff, lame lyrics, boring hook, predictable structure that gets too long at the end. Meh. |
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Post by Zalman on Aug 16, 2024 23:11:29 GMT
I absolutely love Sleepwalk until the middle section. Everything between the second and third choruses is just fluff to me (a common issue with this album). But I really love the groove otherwise. It's very catchy IMO. Just needed to be two minutes shorter.
Room of Mirrors is in the top tier of this album though.
The song I enjoy the least right now is probably You Must Burn, which I have a feeling isn't a popular take.
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Post by ford71V8 on Aug 17, 2024 3:19:01 GMT
So in contrast, the last time I listened to 72S it wasnt until halfway thru You Must Burn that I had the urge to increase the volume.
It was already loud but that section where James has that effect on his voice, kirks little lead riff and those fat bass slides is one of my favourite parts of the album.
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Post by jayc on Aug 19, 2024 8:06:07 GMT
Just needed to be two minutes shorter. That applies to 90% of the songs on the album. |
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Post by Jayzon on Aug 19, 2024 8:42:09 GMT
Just needed to be two minutes shorter. That applies to 90% of the songs on the album. That applies to 90% of the songs on all the albums since St. Anger. |
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