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Post by silentflames on Mar 17, 2023 10:59:18 GMT
.. and what would you change in them?
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Post by Wolfish on Mar 17, 2023 23:42:31 GMT
I wish they would sit down and re-arrange the St. Anger album for live purposes, as they did with AWMH (kinda); no need to put it on a record. Or at least the songs they usually play live: St. Anger, Frantic, Dirty Window...
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Post by Prometheus426 on Mar 18, 2023 18:05:38 GMT
I wish they would sit down and re-arrange the St. Anger album for live purposes, as they did with AWMH (kinda); no need to put it on a record. Or at least the songs they usually play live: St. Anger, Frantic, Dirty Window... Did you prefer the SKOM edit? |
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Post by Wolfish on Mar 18, 2023 22:38:30 GMT
I wish they would sit down and re-arrange the St. Anger album for live purposes, as they did with AWMH (kinda); no need to put it on a record. Or at least the songs they usually play live: St. Anger, Frantic, Dirty Window... Did you prefer the SKOM edit? Not that much because they left out the "ominous, I'm in us..." part. Sure, the overall sound was better, but not the edit. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Mar 19, 2023 2:59:39 GMT
Did you prefer the SKOM edit? Not that much because they left out the "ominous, I'm in us..." part. Sure, the overall sound was better, but not the edit. I agree that's one of the best parts of the song. Quite a few of the St.Anger need cutting down though; alot of repetition. |
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Post by SicJes on Mar 20, 2023 0:39:46 GMT
Struggle Within could have been epic had Lars gone with a more thrashy beat, and the song only had one of those half time parts right before the solo to build up Kirk's spotlight. The meat of that song is fantastic, the intro could have opened the album and worked like we saw during the anniversary shows, and it has one of Kirk's best solos of his careers, but that song never really gets going, the half time choruses should have been double time instead or something with double bass, instead it just brings everything down.
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Post by ford71V8 on Mar 20, 2023 5:36:36 GMT
Struggle Within could have been epic had Lars gone with a more thrashy beat, and the song only had one of those half time parts right before the solo to build up Kirk's spotlight. The meat of that song is fantastic, the intro could have opened the album and worked like we saw during the anniversary shows, and it has one of Kirk's best solos of his careers, but that song never really gets going, the half time choruses should have been double time instead or something with double bass, instead it just brings everything down. When they toured here for Black Album I remember saying to mates I think Struggle would be the concert opener....in my mind it worked. Only took 30 years to be proven correct |
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Post by silentflames on Mar 20, 2023 17:30:39 GMT
Not necessarily iconic, but maybe a great song, Dirty Window, if it had a Broken, Beat, and Scarred-type bridge, `where the song takes off and ends with a thrashy "Projector, protector, rejector, infector."
Or if the outro "I drink from the cup of denial" becomes a sad clean part a la No Leaf Clover then a come backs to life again with a heavy fill with some double bass like the one before the solo in the Eye of the Beholder, and ends with the chorus or if better if the song takes off completely like in One.
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Post by Kimbo on Mar 25, 2023 18:31:50 GMT
Struggle Within could have been epic had Lars gone with a more thrashy beat, and the song only had one of those half time parts right before the solo to build up Kirk's spotlight. The meat of that song is fantastic, the intro could have opened the album and worked like we saw during the anniversary shows, and it has one of Kirk's best solos of his careers, but that song never really gets going, the half time choruses should have been double time instead or something with double bass, instead it just brings everything down. Very much agree, the song is cool but they really also kinda dropped the ball too. It could have been a straight forward thrash closer but instead it ended up being the third worst song on the record. |
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Post by R2D2 on Mar 29, 2023 7:17:05 GMT
Sweet Amber if they kept that solo from SKOM in it.
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Post by jorn on Mar 29, 2023 12:04:11 GMT
this is something I often think about when I think about recent Metallica.
Death Magnetic & Beyond Magnetic songs could have used clever editing and better production to great results.Some of those songs feature some of the best riffs and ideas they have ever come up with.
One particular bit I really don't like is how they sometimes fail to come up with parts that cleverly combine different parts of the songs.
In many cases, it is Lars' snare fills with some bridge riff - often boring - to carry the song to the next part. This particularly sounds lazy to my ears.
If they had been more successful to trim the fat (for lack of a better word), some songs could have been much more effective.
Also they can do better at editing the songs to make them shorter but more effective.
For a good example, Lux Aeterna is as long as it should exactly be.
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Post by Kimbo on Mar 29, 2023 16:28:26 GMT
Bullet had the potential to become one of their coolest songs ever. Epic verse, epic melodic part and epic solo.
Probably the song which I both hate and love the most.
The verse me makes wanna break stuff, the good way.
The chorus and intro makes me wanna break my face. Such a shame.
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Post by jorn on Mar 30, 2023 7:01:27 GMT
Yeah, bullet is actually a very cool song.
You guys were discussing how good these guys at trolling the fans few days ago.
I have one more example to add to that discussion.
They did not include the awesome riff they used for the "Fly on the Wall" videos on the actual album. People were shocked.
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Post by jorn on Mar 30, 2023 7:12:39 GMT
I have forgotten these videos. I rediscovered them yesterday.
It shows the power of the production on the songs. I am not talking about the production quality.
The creator of this Moth into Flame added some flavour in it. It worked really well because those are details that could have actually added by the guys themselves. And Disposable Heroes solo added in there too. Kirk can definately do much better!!
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Post by herodreamer79 on Apr 18, 2023 1:51:43 GMT
My Metallica wish list that will never happen
1. Death Magnetic getting the Hardwired/72Seasons sound treatment
2. Remix And Justice For All
3. Fixing the snare on St Anger
that would take about 30 metallica songs up a few levels right there.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Dec 25, 2023 12:08:24 GMT
Shadows of the cross if the they took out the 'look at myself part.'
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Post by Awake on Dec 28, 2023 19:12:20 GMT
They should remaster Death Magnetic so it actually sounds good. The sound they have now would do.
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Post by jayc on Dec 29, 2023 9:09:53 GMT
Shadows of the cross if the they took out the 'look at myself part.' How you can make a judgement on a song when we've only heard a minute or so of it is beyond me. Those "full" songs you hear on YT are fan edits and are not the actual track. Wait until the SA boxset to make a judgement |
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Post by SicJes on Dec 29, 2023 13:31:56 GMT
Shadows of the cross if the they took out the 'look at myself part.' How you can make a judgement on a song when we've only heard a minute or so of it is beyond me. Those "full" songs you hear on YT are fan edits and are not the actual track. Wait until the SA boxset to make a judgement You think we'll be around in 25 years? |
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Post by Jayzon on Jan 2, 2024 21:59:11 GMT
They should remaster Death Magnetic so it actually sounds good. The sound they have now would do. Definitely. And they should also work on some arrangements on certain songs to make them better. |
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Post by Zalman on Jan 3, 2024 12:56:41 GMT
If Death Magnetic sounded like Hardwired/72 Seasons then I think it might've been my favorite album.
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 3, 2024 15:19:31 GMT
If Death Magnetic sounded like Hardwired/72 Seasons then I think it might've been my favorite album. I’m telling myself a Fidelman remix for the box set is possible. |
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Post by Zalman on Jan 3, 2024 19:14:41 GMT
If Death Magnetic sounded like Hardwired/72 Seasons then I think it might've been my favorite album. I’m telling myself a Fidelman remix for the box set is possible. I think it really needs to be rerecorded entirely for it to sound the way I'm imagining. It'll never happen and that's the sad part. New snare sound, vocal harmonies... A remix would be great but probably wouldn't go all the way. |
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Post by Awake on Jan 3, 2024 22:39:00 GMT
All songs on St. Anger need A LOT of changes but there is potential.
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Post by jayc on Jan 4, 2024 12:51:25 GMT
If Death Magnetic sounded like Hardwired/72 Seasons then I think it might've been my favorite album. I’m telling myself a Fidelman remix for the box set is possible. I do wonder what they will do with DM when it comes time for the box. They've made a point about not changing Justice from a remix point of view so I would imagine that would hold true for DM too. Buty myabe..... maybe... they'll just reduce the overall levels of tracks as well as remastering them. I remember reading somewhere that the guy who did the mastering on DM said the tracks were brickwalled already when he got them. I’m telling myself a Fidelman remix for the box set is possible. I think it really needs to be rerecorded entirely for it to sound the way I'm imagining. It'll never happen and that's the sad part. New snare sound, vocal harmonies... A remix would be great but probably wouldn't go all the way. Nah, they can replace the sound if they want to. The did it with the single edit of SKOM. It's why 72S drums sound so fatiguing and boring. It's the same snare sample over and over again. |
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Post by SicJes on Jan 9, 2024 19:37:39 GMT
If Peter Jackson and his team, with AI, can lift and polish John Lennon off a crappy 40 year old demo, and turn it into a gem, Metallica with their endless resources and money can fix the brick walled DM album now a days if they wanted to. I'm sure some kid could pull it off or already has with their limited resources and AI software.
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Post by yepsure on Jan 10, 2024 10:54:54 GMT
If Peter Jackson and his team, with AI, can lift and polish John Lennon off a crappy 40 year old demo, and turn it into a gem, Metallica with their endless resources and money can fix the brick walled DM album now a days if they wanted to. I'm sure some kid could pull it off or already has with their limited resources and AI software. Our very own Moderus did it in the months following the release with literal video game audio tracks.
Also we did get an official remaster in the iTunes version, and we'll get another one when the boxset rolls around.
EDIT: Also I'm done with the Fidelman super clean and sterile sound that feels like 90% sampled snare and high hat sitting all up front. I long for that 90s Bob Rock Black / Load / Garage Inc sound of a band jamming away in the same room.
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Post by jayc on Jan 10, 2024 15:19:36 GMT
EDIT: Also I'm done with the Fidelman super clean and sterile sound that feels like 90% sampled snare and high hat sitting all up front. I long for that 90s Bob Rock Black / Load / Garage Inc sound of a band jamming away in the same room.
FUCK. YES. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jan 10, 2024 17:55:42 GMT
I think Bob Rock is semi-retired, also they got rid him because of the fan backlash from SA, unlikely he'll be back.
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 11, 2024 2:35:10 GMT
EDIT: Also I'm done with the Fidelman super clean and sterile sound that feels like 90% sampled snare and high hat sitting all up front. I long for that 90s Bob Rock Black / Load / Garage Inc sound of a band jamming away in the same room. So much this. I kinda feel like age is going to push them back towards this sound. Even a Bob Rock reunion would be really really cool. I’d love for them to try and “prove it” one more time, because right now they’re making music more for the fun of it… which is fine! But as my favorite band I’d love to see it happen. |
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