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Post by Kimbo on Feb 23, 2016 8:37:34 GMT
What riffs are similar in those songs?  |
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Post by lightning master on Feb 27, 2016 1:43:22 GMT
I have a question about this. What about covers? I noticed Breadfan and Fuel had similar riffs and I was wondering if that counted as plagiarism. I don't think it does, both songs are definitely very different and aren't copies, but I haven't heard the original Breadfan so I'm not sure if Metallica played it the same exact way. Nevertheless, the case here is not plagiarism for those two songs, but just a general question about covers like this if they are seriously cutting it close. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 2:25:07 GMT
Do you know specific time where the original is in David Bowie's song, I didn't notice it... 0:51 And then 6:19 Doesn't sound alike to me. And I'm pretty sure James or Kirk said they got that riff from a guitar warm up exercise |
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Post by lightning master on Feb 27, 2016 11:05:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 21:40:46 GMT
The ideas were maybe combined together then, considering it's not some straight take and they sound very different. That part in Master of Puppets is a classic type of stringed instrument warm up. And I'm pretty sure I remember them talking about that in a guitar magazine in the 90s.
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Post by Moonloop on Feb 27, 2016 22:21:28 GMT
The ideas were maybe combined together then, considering it's not some straight take and they sound very different. Wut. It's near identical. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 22:30:44 GMT
They are not near identical. There is barely any resemblance there.
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Post by waunakonor on Feb 29, 2016 0:18:09 GMT
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe if you believe hard enough it will come true.
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Post by MugCostanza on Feb 29, 2016 4:34:30 GMT
What riffs are similar in those songs? I'm guessing it's the main riffs.
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Post by yepsure on Feb 29, 2016 10:40:27 GMT
Breadfan is closer to The Four Horsemen than it is Fuel. Not some much the riff, but the entire song structure is virtually identical. As is the feel.
Hell, most of Kill Em All is "heavily inspired" by a lot of NWOBHM bands.
And that's all it is, inspiration. Just like Trust/Enter Sandman, etc...
Even instances of direct lifts of passages music, played only slightly differently, like say, the mellow section of The Four Hoursemen/Sweet Home Alabama, or the Saniatrium/Bowie song (which the band themselves have admitted to lifting), I wouldn't class as plagiarism, as it's changing the whole feel of the music and using it in a different context.
Plagiarism, I think refers to a direct, malicious copy of songs and a claim of original works. Like Coldplay with Satriani. Or, as much as it pains me to say it, a lot of Led Zeppelins catalogue.
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Post by ford71V8 on Feb 29, 2016 23:45:35 GMT
.....Or, as much as it pains me to say it, a lot of Led Zeppelins catalogue. You take that back! Me and a fellow Zeppelin disciple here have already agreed those riffs and tunes were handed to the Gods for greater things. |
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