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Post by Jayzon on Jun 5, 2024 21:21:22 GMT
While I can certainly understand and appreciate the importance of Master of Puppets in the historical sense, I personally don't rate it that high. It's a great record, no doubt, but I think Metallica has at least five better albums.
Kinda the same thing with Megadeth's Rust In Peace. Not my favorite album, although universally revered.
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Post by SicJes on Jun 5, 2024 22:56:59 GMT
That's why we all agree that you're retarded. 😘 JK |
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Post by jayc on Jun 6, 2024 6:45:36 GMT
While I can certainly understand and appreciate the importance of Master of Puppets in the historical sense, I personally don't rate it that high. It's a great record, no doubt, but I think Metallica has at least five better albums. Kinda the same thing with Megadeth's Rust In Peace. Not my favorite album, although universally revered. Wow. I love this take (even though I don't agree)., What are the 5 other albums that are better than MOP? |
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Post by Jayzon on Jun 6, 2024 21:10:35 GMT
While I can certainly understand and appreciate the importance of Master of Puppets in the historical sense, I personally don't rate it that high. It's a great record, no doubt, but I think Metallica has at least five better albums. Kinda the same thing with Megadeth's Rust In Peace. Not my favorite album, although universally revered. Wow. I love this take (even though I don't agree)., What are the 5 other albums that are better than MOP? Kill, Ride, Justice, Black, Hardwired. I'm almost tempted to put even Load and Reload ahead of it, but I realize that my fondness of them is clouded by nostalgia, as they were the two newest albums when I first started listening to Metallica. |
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Post by lightning master on Jun 7, 2024 7:28:17 GMT
Picked up a guitar for the first time in years. Jammed some songs from 72 Seasons, for the first time actually. It's quite embarrassing but I only just realised that the awesome lead riff thingy in Burn is a replica of the intro 😂 How the hell have I not noticed that before. It's not a replica though, so I think you're forgiven. : P It has more or less the same amount of notes played at more or less the same time as the intro, but most of the notes are different. It's almost like a (even more evil sounding) harmony version of the intro. |
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Post by jayc on Jun 7, 2024 7:33:23 GMT
Wow. I love this take (even though I don't agree)., What are the 5 other albums that are better than MOP? Kill, Ride, Justice, Black, Hardwired. I'm almost tempted to put even Load and Reload ahead of it, but I realize that my fondness of them is clouded by nostalgia, as they were the two newest albums when I first started listening to Metallica. I love this. The first four I can see, but HTSD over MOP is bonkers to me. But I love that you went there. I would, also for nostalgia and therefore no objectivity, put Load ahead of MOP. But that's subjective. |
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 7, 2024 9:43:21 GMT
Picked up a guitar for the first time in years. Jammed some songs from 72 Seasons, for the first time actually. It's quite embarrassing but I only just realised that the awesome lead riff thingy in Burn is a replica of the intro 😂 How the hell have I not noticed that before. It's not a replica though, so I think you're forgiven. : P It has more or less the same amount of notes played at more or less the same time as the intro, but most of the notes are different. It's almost like a (even more evil sounding) harmony version of the intro. Well it’s obviously not the same notes ;) But it’s for sure the exact same riff, just modulated a little different. Question is if it was written as an intro or as a bridge riff thingy and reused as another part. |
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 7, 2024 12:39:12 GMT
I've been jamming Hardiwred a lot in the last week, and I'd actually consider it as one of their all time best if it didn't have so much bloat on disc 2. I can turn on disc one pretty much whenever, but I have to be in a very "Hardwired" mood for disc two (besides Spit). But there's some songs on there that are better than I ever imagined modern Metallica could get before it came out.
If I had to pick between 72S and Hardwired, I'm back to going with Hardwired. Even if 72S is a more "complete" sounding listen. I'm really starting to appreciate the differences between the albums now though, they weren't really apparent when it first came out.
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 7, 2024 16:04:28 GMT
If every record had a mere 8 songs like the first few albums the whole world would have a very different view on this band and their legacy.
Every album besides St. Anger would be considered top tier.
Load and Reload should obviously have been 1 album of around 12 songs.
Now there’s a lot of stuff that we would miss out on, and I wouldn’t be without some of those songs, but their overall output would be much stronger.
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 9, 2024 14:07:22 GMT
If every record had a mere 8 songs like the first few albums the whole world would have a very different view on this band and their legacy. Every album besides St. Anger would be considered top tier. Load and Reload should obviously have been 1 album of around 12 songs. Now there’s a lot of stuff that we would miss out on, and I wouldn’t be without some of those songs, but their overall output would be much stronger. I used to really think this, and I still do to some extent, but as I get older I realize the human element of making "mistakes" like that. Like for Load/ReLoad, that was the first time the band said "let's just write a shit ton of songs, and they'll all be good so we'll release them all". They already lost some of that primal youthful drive that they had in the 80s, and with that comes way less scrutiny over stuff they wrote. I'm sure a big part of it is also "we're Metallica, we're huge already, this is the right move". But it is ironic that Hardwired with a few less songs could be one of their best albums, and that's the other album they admitted to using all the songs they recorded instead of composing a "best of" for the album. I guess my point is ReLoad needed to happen to show the band they don't need to release every single song they write, but they kinda forgot that lesson again. |
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Post by jayc on Jun 10, 2024 6:44:33 GMT
Agreeing with you both here. 8-10 songs per album would be fine. It's shit that no one releases physical singles anymore really. They could add the ones that were on the cutting room floor as B sides.
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 10, 2024 10:34:21 GMT
Yeah, unreleased songs as B-sides would have been such a great idea. I miss the old days man.
There's at least 25 songs to be cut from their cataloquge which would make the output way stronger. Not every song can be a MOP or a SBT, but a lot of their songs are way worse than the best songs on the record.
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Post by yepsure on Jun 11, 2024 1:19:33 GMT
OK lets go every album must have 8 songs, you cant add any from different albums...lets see how much we disagree Hit The Lights The Four Horseman Motorbreath Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) Whiplash No Remorse Phantom Lord Seek and Destroy Fight Fire With Fire Ride the Lightning Fade to Black Trapped Under Ice Escape Creeping Death Call of Ktulu Battery Master of Puppets The Thing That Should Not Be Welcome Home Sanitarium Disposable Heroes Leper Messiah Orion Damage Inc. Blackened And Justice For All One The Shortest Straw Harvester of Sorrow The Frayed Ends of Sanity To Live is To Die Dyers Eve Enter Sandman Sad But True The Unforgiven Wherever I May Roam Through The Never Of Wolf and Man The God That Failed My Friend of Misery Ain't My Bitch 2x4 The House Jack Built Until it Sleeps King Nothing Bleeding Me Mama Said The Outlaw Torn Fuel The Memory Remains Devil's Dance The Unforgiven 2 Carpe Diem Baby Where The Wild Things Are Low Man's Lyric Fixxxer Frantic St. Anger Some Kind of Monster My World Shoot Me Again Sweet Amber The Unnamed Feeling All Within My Hands That Was Just Your Life End of the Line Broken Beat and Scarred The Day That Never Comes All Nightmare Long Cyanide The Unforgiven 3 Suicide and Redemption Atlas, Rise! Now That We're Dead Dream No More Moth Info Flame Halo On Fire Confusion Here Comes Revenge Spit Out The Bone 72 Seasons Shadows Follow You Must Burn Lux Aeterna Crown of Barbed Wire If Darkness Had a Son Room of Mirrors Inamorata
you can tell Im bored at work this morning
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Post by jayc on Jun 11, 2024 6:57:17 GMT
OK lets go every album must have 8 songs, you cant add any from different albums...lets see how much we disagree <snip> You removed Bells?!?! Hit The Lights The Four Horseman Motorbreath Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) Whiplash No Remorse Phantom Lord Seek and Destroy Fight Fire with Fire Ride the Lightning For Whom the Bell Tolls Fade to Black Trapped Under Ice Escape Creeping Death The Call of Ktulu Battery Master of Puppets The Thing That Should Not Be Welcome Home (Sanitarium) Disposable Heroes Leper Messiah Orion Damage, Inc. Blackened ...And Justice for All One The Shortest Straw Harvester of Sorrow The Frayed Ends of Sanity To Live Is to Die Dyers Eve Enter Sandman Sad But True The Unforgiven Wherever I May Roam Through the Never Nothing Else Matters My Friend of Misery The Struggle Within 2 X 4 The House Jack Built Until It Sleeps Hero of the Day Bleeding Me Wasting My Hate Mama Said The Outlaw Torn Fuel The Memory Remains Devil's Dance The Unforgiven II Carpe Diem Baby Where the Wild Things Are Low Man's Lyric Fixxxer Frantic St. Anger Some Kind of Monster Dirty Window My World Shoot Me Again Sweet Amber The Unnamed Feeling That Was Just Your Life The End of the Line Broken, Beat & Scarred The Day That Never Comes All Nightmare Long The Unforgiven III The Judas Kiss Suicide & Redemption Hardwired Now That We're Dead Moth into Flame Dream No More Halo on Fire Confusion Here Comes Revenge Spit Out the Bone 72 Seasons Shadows Follow Sleepwalk My Life Away You Must Burn! Lux Æterna Crown of Barbed Wire Too Far Gone? Inamorata |
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Post by yepsure on Jun 11, 2024 7:39:40 GMT
omg that was a mistake...brain fart I actually cant count
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Post by jayc on Jun 11, 2024 8:18:22 GMT
omg that was a mistake...brain fart I actually cant count I thought you might have some vendetta against the song that would have soured our love forever. |
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Post by lightning master on Jun 11, 2024 12:31:53 GMT
OK lets go every album must have 8 songs, you cant add any from different albums...lets see how much we disagree Hit the lights The four horsemen Motorbreath Whiplash Phantom lord No remorse Seek & destroy Metal militia Fight fire with fire Ride the lightning For whom the bell tolls Fade to black Trapped under ice Escape Creeping death The call of Ktulu Battery Master of puppets The thing that should not be Welcome home (Sanitarium) Disposable Heroes Leper Messiah Orion Damage, Inc. Blackened ...And justice for all Eye of the beholder One Harvester of sorrow The frayed ends of sanity To live is to die Dyers eve Sad but true The Unforgiven Wherever I may roam Don't tread on me Through the never Nothing else matters Of wolf and man The god that failed Ain't my bitch The house Jack built Until it sleeps Hero of the day Bleeding me Wasting my hate Mama said The outlaw torn Fuel The memory remains The Unforgiven II Carpe diem baby Prince charming Low man's lyric Attitude Fixxxer Frantic St. Anger Some kind of monster Dirty window Invisible kid My world The unnamed feeling All within my hands That was just your life End of the line Broken, beat and scarred The day that never comes All nightmare long The Unforgiven III The Judas kiss Suicide & redemption Hardwired Atlas, rise! Moth into flame Dream no more Halo on fire Confusion Here comes revenge Spit out the bone 72 seasons Shadows follow Screaming suicide You must burn! Lux Æterna Chasing light If darkness had a son Too far gone? |
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Post by lightning master on Jun 11, 2024 12:32:44 GMT
OK lets go every album must have 8 songs, you cant add any from different albums...lets see how much we disagree <snip> 2 X 4 The House Jack Built Until It Sleeps Hero of the Day Bleeding Me Wasting My Hate Mama Said The Outlaw Torn That Was Just Your Life The End of the Line Broken, Beat & Scarred The Day That Never Comes All Nightmare Long The Unforgiven III The Judas Kiss Suicide & Redemption Almost the same and the same. : ) |
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 11, 2024 17:27:33 GMT
Funny idea. But it’s too overwhelming with so much wall of text,
my brain can’t compare it scrolling up and down
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Post by ford71V8 on Jun 12, 2024 8:10:25 GMT
Funny idea. But it’s too overwhelming with so much wall of text, my brain can’t compare it scrolling up and down I felt a bit the same. And theres jayc spotting Bells being missed. |
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Post by jayc on Jun 12, 2024 13:15:24 GMT
Funny idea. But it’s too overwhelming with so much wall of text, my brain can’t compare it scrolling up and down I felt a bit the same. And theres jayc spotting Bells being missed. What can I say? we all have a gift - mine is being a Metallica nerd. |
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Post by yepsure on Jun 12, 2024 14:49:54 GMT
I did it while on PC...on mobile forget about it
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 12, 2024 15:23:51 GMT
Did jayc answer so correctly I just copy and pasted his post and made a couple changes? Maybe.
Hit The Lights
The Four Horsemen
Motorbreath
Jump in the Fire
Whiplash
No Remorse
Phantom Lord
Seek and Destroy
Blackened
...And Justice for All
One
The Shortest Straw
Harvester of Sorrow
The Frayed Ends of Sanity
To Live Is to Die
Dyers Eve
Enter Sandman
Sad But True
Holier Than Thou
The Unforgiven
Wherever I May Roam
Of Wolf and Man
My Friend of Misery
The Struggle Within
2 X 4
The House Jack Built
Until It Sleeps
Hero of the Day
Bleeding Me
Wasting My Hate
Mama Said
The Outlaw Torn
Fuel
The Memory Remains
Devil's Dance
The Unforgiven II
Carpe Diem Baby
Where the Wild Things Are
Low Man's Lyric
Fixxxer
Frantic
St. Anger
Some Kind of Monster
Dirty Window
My World
Shoot Me Again
Sweet Amber
The Unnamed Feeling
That Was Just Your Life
The End of the Line
Broken, Beat & Scarred
The Day That Never Comes
All Nightmare Long
Cyanide
The Unforgiven III
Suicide & Redemption
Hardwired
Atlas, Rise!
Now That We're Dead
Moth into Flame
Dream No More
Halo on Fire
Spit Out the Bone
Lords of Summer (hot take?)
72 Seasons
Shadows Follow
You Must Burn!
Lux Æterna
Crown of Barbed Wire
If Darkness Had a Son
Too Far Gone?
Inamorata
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 12, 2024 18:14:34 GMT
I did it while on PC...on mobile forget about it Obviously. I’m never on the PC if not at work so I can never manage doing anything like that. |
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Post by SicJes on Jun 12, 2024 21:46:27 GMT
Phantom Lord
The Four Horsemen
Motorbreath
Seek and Destroy
Whiplash
No Remorse
Anesthesia
Metal Militia
RTL as is
MOP as is
Blackened
Justice
Harvester of Sorrow
One
Shortest Straw
Frayed Ends
TLITD
Dyers Eve
Struggle Within
Sandman
Roam
Unforgiven
Wolf
God That Failed
Misery
Holier than Thou
Wasting my Hate
Sleeps
Hero
Bleeding Me
Bitch
House Jack Built
Mama Said
Outlaw Torn
Fuel
Memory
Slither
U2
Prince Charming
WTWTA
Low Man
Fixxxer
Frantic
St Anger
SKOM
Shoot Me Again
Sweet Amber
My World
Dirty Window
Unnamed Feeling
TWJYL
All Nightmare Long
End of the Line
TDTNC
Cyanide
Judas Kiss
My Apocalypse
U3
Spit Out the Bone
Moth into Flame
Dream no More
Halo on Fire
Manunkind
Confusion
Atlas Rise
Hardwired
72 Seasons
Room of Mirrors
Shadows Follow
Inamorata
Too Far Gone
You Must Burn
Screaming Suicide
Lux Aeterna
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Post by jayc on Jun 13, 2024 6:53:34 GMT
I did it while on PC...on mobile forget about it Same! Life is so much easier on a big-assed monitor. Did jayc answer so correctly I just copy and pasted his post and made a couple changes? Maybe.Even a stopped clock is right twice a day! Slither AND Prince Charming? I'm liking this out of the box appreciation. Goes against the grain! |
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 13, 2024 13:47:34 GMT
Slither kinda fuckin rocks, not gonna lie. The chorus sometimes can sound a little silly to my ears, but it has such a swagger to it. I can see that or Better Than You be the next (old song) live debut.
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Post by benl on Jun 13, 2024 15:10:20 GMT
Better than you is one of the worst songs they've ever written.
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Post by SicJes on Jun 13, 2024 15:17:57 GMT
Slither kinda fuckin rocks, not gonna lie. The chorus sometimes can sound a little silly to my ears, but it has such a swagger to it. I can see that or Better Than You be the next (old song) live debut. It's like the original Sleepwalk My Life Away. |
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Post by yepsure on Jun 13, 2024 15:22:52 GMT
Slither kinda fuckin rocks, not gonna lie. The chorus sometimes can sound a little silly to my ears, but it has such a swagger to it. I can see that or Better Than You be the next (old song) live debut.
Has HR taken control of your account? blink twice if in danger
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