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Post by Prometheus426 on Jun 20, 2024 19:28:22 GMT
Thinking about SKOM that it might be a good song, maybe the radio edit is better?
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 20, 2024 22:26:48 GMT
Thinking about SKOM that it might be a good song, maybe the radio edit is better? I miss the "ominous I am us" when I listen to the radio edit, but it makes a way better song cut down. The amount of double time drums in the original was way too much for that mid-tempo riff. |
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 21, 2024 7:00:40 GMT
Thinking about SKOM that it might be a good song, maybe the radio edit is better? I miss the "ominous I am us" when I listen to the radio edit, but it makes a way better song cut down. The amount of double time drums in the original was way too much for that mid-tempo riff. Most songs from St. Anger, Hardwired and 72S would benefit from a radio edit. Some songs on DM as well. But yeah, I miss the ominous part in skom as well. |
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Post by SicJes on Jun 21, 2024 18:42:04 GMT
Ominous part is one of the album highlights for me. I remember laughing at Kirk in the st Anger DVD when he does that part. It was like for 30 years Kirk was this quiet little mouse who always had his back up mic turned down live, and all of a sudden he was trying to growl like Max from Sepultura or something 😂
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Post by Kimbo on Jun 22, 2024 9:44:26 GMT
I’ve never understood how both he and Rob can be so damn horrible at backing vocals. Yes harmonising with James in certain songs takes some skill, which should be possible with lessons.
But simple harsh shouting vocals is literally the easiest thing in the entire world.
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Post by Zalman on Jun 22, 2024 10:59:52 GMT
After how safe parts of 72 Seasons sound you start to appreciate St. Anger more.
That said, both albums suffer from songs that are way too long. I genuinely think that's modern Metallica's biggest weakness. They need to learn how to trim the fat.
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Post by Wolfish on Jun 22, 2024 20:03:11 GMT
Kirk's "laaanguage of the maaad", and "you live it or lie" are on point, though.
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Post by Wolfish on Jun 22, 2024 20:25:01 GMT
I genuinely think that's modern Metallica's biggest weakness. They need to learn how to trim the fat. That's something that started happening in 2002(3)-ish. And while since DM each album has consistently improved on that issue -- St, Anger being the epitome of overly long songs -- they haven't been able to shake off that vice for good. In some cases it's not the length but the transitions that don't work well. Evindently, none of Bob, Rick or Greg managed to fix that either. Maybe the band (namely James and Lars) lost its mojo at arrangements. Or it's just Lars, who seems to have taken the reins? This is just speculation on my part, I'm thinking aloud. But when they regain the magic it's pure genius -- case in point The Day that Never Comes, Moth into Flame, Spit Out the Bone, Halo on Fire, That Was Just Your Life, U III, Innamorata, etc. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jun 23, 2024 12:23:25 GMT
After how safe parts of 72 Seasons sound you start to appreciate St. Anger more. That said, both albums suffer from songs that are way too long. I genuinely think that's modern Metallica's biggest weakness. They need to learn how to trim the fat. That's true, at least they tried something different on St. Anger, some of the riffs on 72S are just recycled and pants. |
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Post by Zalman on Jun 23, 2024 14:56:52 GMT
Sometimes I think about how St. Anger (the song) was so popular during the By Request tour that they brought it back after 10 years. Nowadays there's a chance to see a St. Anger song on the setlist whereas there was none during the World Magnetic tour.
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Post by BMus1 on Jun 23, 2024 23:59:38 GMT
Sometimes I think about how St. Anger (the song) was so popular during the By Request tour that they brought it back after 10 years. Nowadays there's a chance to see a St. Anger song on the setlist whereas there was none during the World Magnetic tour. Load too. And you're right, for a few years these were albums people were begging to see any song off of. Since 2019 they've been inching towards setlists with more equal album spread. 2019 as a whole is underrated for some cool sets. That's the year they brought back a rotating St. Anger song slot and played St. Anger for the first time since By Request, as well as Frantic. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 8, 2024 12:22:42 GMT
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 19, 2024 9:41:21 GMT
Might try and listen to SA from start to finish, i usually skip Shoot Me Again and Purify.
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Post by SicJes on Jul 19, 2024 14:46:52 GMT
Imagine being Rob, you just scored the gig of a lifetime, million dollar cheque and all that, and the first task assigned to you is to learn the entire new shity album and have to perform the whole thing for the DVD. I wonder what Rob thinking while sitting there practicing all those songs.
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Post by BMus1 on Jul 19, 2024 15:52:56 GMT
Imagine being Rob, you just scored the gig of a lifetime, million dollar cheque and all that, and the first task assigned to you is to learn the entire new shity album and have to perform the whole thing for the DVD. I wonder what Rob thinking while sitting there practicing all those songs. ”Even if I quit next year I’ll make enough money to set my family up for life.” |
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Post by Zalman on Jul 19, 2024 21:58:52 GMT
I kind of like Shoot Me Again. The song is way too long as usual but I think it's pretty catchy.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 20, 2024 16:02:40 GMT
I kind of like Shoot Me Again. The song is way too long as usual but I think it's pretty catchy. There are some cool parts in the song (you know the ones), the lyrics kinda let it down though. |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 20, 2024 16:47:14 GMT
Imagine being Rob, you just scored the gig of a lifetime, million dollar cheque and all that, and the first task assigned to you is to learn the entire new shity album and have to perform the whole thing for the DVD. I wonder what Rob thinking while sitting there practicing all those songs. Or, you know, maybe he liked the album? Or at least liked it just enough? Just because you don't like something doesn't make it an irrefutable, universal fact. |
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Post by SicJes on Jul 20, 2024 18:05:55 GMT
When it came out, I dug it, I was pumped. It was heavy, very loud, some catchy stuff, but I remember, after the first listen through the day it came out, feeling very drained. Later that evening, sitting down and watching the DVD, again, drained. It is sonically very aggressive and "raw/in your face" gnarly stuff. After the first few weeks of release, the newness wore off and I'd spin the couple of tracks I enjoyed here and there until the concert(s) came and went etc.
Rob must have had to sit down for hours listening to Purify over and over and over again. Something like that could send many people to the loony bin.
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 21, 2024 11:59:00 GMT
Most of those songs are extremely simple and centred around the same few chords.
He probably learned Purify in half an hour.
But yeah he probably had to listen many many times to remember if those parts should be repeated 80 or 90 times in a row
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jul 22, 2024 11:45:40 GMT
I wonder when they will release the St. Anger video game, it must be finished by now? |
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Post by SicJes on Jul 22, 2024 16:34:15 GMT
I wonder when they will release the St. Anger video game, it must be finished by now? They did a month ago in the format of Fortnite. It was pretty much the exact thing in the old trailer you posted. There was even a big Metallica stage that would spawn in the sky with Metallica holograms and all that. I completed all the Metallica quests and my Fortnite wallpaper is now this cool Metallica cartoon artwork thing. |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 23, 2024 22:21:10 GMT
I wonder when they will release the St. Anger video game, it must be finished by now? They did a month ago in the format of Fortnite. It was pretty much the exact thing in the old trailer you posted. There was even a big Metallica stage that would spawn in the sky with Metallica holograms and all that. I completed all the Metallica quests and my Fortnite wallpaper is now this cool Metallica cartoon artwork thing. This was what I was thinking all the time while playing that Metallica event in Fortnite: "This is the game we were promised 20 years ago!" |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Aug 2, 2024 14:26:51 GMT
This was good
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Post by silentflames on Nov 3, 2024 7:05:25 GMT
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Post by SicJes on Nov 4, 2024 15:41:42 GMT
I hope we get that full jail show in the boxset.
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Post by SicJes on Nov 19, 2024 19:04:45 GMT
Sometimes,when my mind is silent and the day is calm, I think about those lyrics Dr. Phil tried to pass on to the band. We'll never know what was on that paper, and sometimes I really wish we did. You think they were worse than some of Lou's lyrics for Lulu 🤔
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