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Post by Wolfish on Apr 24, 2022 16:11:56 GMT
I'm through with the first track and, uh, if anyone ever claims Hammett can't play or talks big but never delivers, then please just crawl in a corner and die off. I wasn't expecting much from this EP but this just about blows my fucking mind. Imagine if the next Metallica record opened how Maiden and the Monster did. People would lose their fucking minds and I'd love it because it actually sounds rich with texture and most of all fucking fresh. James and Lars have no fucking excuse if the next record is just HTSD 2. In terms of song structure this is clearly going for something completely different, but there are definitely bits and pieces here that I would have liked to see in Metallica. Maiden and the Monster at 4:30 sounds incredible. If you mixed in some of Hetfield's magic I think we could have some truly excellent stuff. This EP is a good showcase of why Kirk should be more involved in the songwriting if you ask me. Hardwired was good but it was lacking some tonal variety, something this EP has plenty of. I guess James and Lars will have now in Kirk's EP some "competition", a reference point critics will inevitably gauge their upcoming effort with. And it's a good thing. Metallica has produced their best stuff under pressure, when they had to compete with other bands in the '80s/ early '90s, when they had to show everyone who the kings were. |
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Post by SicJes on Apr 24, 2022 17:11:34 GMT
I hope so. If anything, when Kirk suggests something now, I hope they listen. He had a careers worth of ideas bottled up in him and found a way to check this E.P. off his bucket list, something not very possible in the earlier years. I'm just glad he took care of business and let these ideas breath and have life rather than get chopped up and regurgitated by the Hetfield/Ulrich machine.
There are many killer bits throughout that could have easily gone that route.
That "Am I Evil" marching part that just builds during The Incantation is so simple and been there done that, but is so killer because of the layering of strings and everything.
This whole E.P. is like a dream. One big S&M Call of Ktulu in the studio beast.
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 25, 2022 0:54:10 GMT
Haha love the comment about his missing phone sicjes.
Loving this EP too.
Got absolutely reamed by metstore for shipping a CD to Aus. Missed out on a vinyl, but already see the net is full of resales already
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 25, 2022 2:17:02 GMT
I hear bits from his "doodles" over the years.
And some of the tones are just beautiful....I actually hope James is listening and taking it all in for the next band project rather than dismissing it
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Post by yepsure on Apr 26, 2022 13:54:06 GMT
It’s not bad. I love instrumental music and these are some well crafted songs, with lots of interesting sections with several different “vibes”. A few parts lifted straight from classical pieces but work really well in the context of the songs.
With all that said, the worst parts of the whole EP are the actual solos. The standard sloppy improv stuff that KH has been playing for years. I really wish he took the time to craft some amazing solos to sit with the great songs he wrote. Or at best at least chose some different takes so the ones without the flubbed or missed notes didn’t make it to the final mix.
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Post by SicJes on Apr 26, 2022 15:23:59 GMT
That's his style bro😎
No, I wish that to. Sadly though, I think it's more about the feel than precision these days.
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 27, 2022 0:22:42 GMT
Yep, the Rolling Stone interview clearly states he was after spontaniety and if he didn't like what he played after 3 or 4 attempts he walked away and tried again another day. One solo was his initial rough take that he felt was better than any proper attempts that followed.
So, no surprises, however it seems less of an issue maybe because its instrumental throughout rather than Kirks "spot" on each song.
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Post by SicJes on Apr 27, 2022 0:53:10 GMT
"Screw you Lars! You don't get to tell me what to do anymore! I'm a free man!"
(Insert off time sloppy scale)
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Post by Zalman on Apr 27, 2022 6:14:02 GMT
Kirk's solos are unfortunately a lost cause at this point. I never really look forward to the solo when listening to a modern Metallica song, which is a shame. There are some good ones here and there but it's a far cry from his work in the '80s and '90s.
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Post by SicJes on Apr 27, 2022 20:39:45 GMT
Second half of Maiden and the Monster is a combo of;
The Final Countdown
Mr Crowley
My Friend of Misery
Your welcome.
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Post by warhorsewarhead on Apr 29, 2022 14:40:33 GMT
Good shit, Kirk.
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Post by yepsure on May 2, 2022 12:36:24 GMT
Second half of Maiden and the Monster is a combo of; The Final Countdown Mr Crowley My Friend of Misery Your welcome. ~3:38 - 4:15 is a straight up lift of the classical piece Adagio in G Minor by Tomaso Albinoni. Here's Wolf Hoffman's (from Accept) version. I listen to this album (Wolf's, not Kirk's) a lot, it's awesome: |
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Post by Prometheus426 on May 3, 2022 19:03:29 GMT
They could put High Plains Drifter in the set...
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Post by Overkill on May 3, 2022 21:04:09 GMT
They could put High Plains Drifter in the set... ...Could they. |
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Post by Kimbo on May 14, 2022 8:28:43 GMT
I will say though.kirks sloppy solo is fitting much better here than in a Metallica song. I have no problem with them on this EP, I quite like them actually.
But in a Met song it needs to be precise and well executed to go a long with the rest.
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Post by BigBunny on May 17, 2022 11:40:15 GMT
am I the only one who isn't impressed by the album? I mean it's ok but if I'm going to listen to guitar instrumental music I'll take Satch, Vai and Gilbert anyday 🎸
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Post by Awake on May 17, 2022 15:27:06 GMT
am I the only one who isn't impressed by the album? I mean it's ok but if I'm going to listen to guitar instrumental music I'll take Satch, Vai and Gilbert anyday 🎸 No you're not the only one. |
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Post by ford71V8 on May 18, 2022 0:00:31 GMT
YES SHE IS!
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Post by Awake on May 18, 2022 7:25:30 GMT
HAHA, her and me is two  |
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Post by ford71V8 on May 21, 2022 2:27:17 GMT
I listened to this thru headphones last night.
What an experience...the music really does conjure up scenes in your head.
I'd love Metallica to carry on from where Kirk has steered this rather than pick up from Hardwired, if you get what I mean
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Post by Prometheus426 on May 29, 2022 11:43:40 GMT
I listened to this thru headphones last night. What an experience...the music really does conjure up scenes in your head. I'd love Metallica to carry on from where Kirk has steered this rather than pick up from Hardwired, if you get what I mean That kind of experimental style never goes down well with the fans. |
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Post by ford71V8 on May 30, 2022 8:04:12 GMT
I listened to this thru headphones last night. What an experience...the music really does conjure up scenes in your head. I'd love Metallica to carry on from where Kirk has steered this rather than pick up from Hardwired, if you get what I mean That kind of experimental style never goes down well with the fans.
Yeah, but I don't care about anybody else.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jun 4, 2022 11:36:31 GMT
Kirk probably prefers progressive rock to metal, hence this offering.
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Post by ford71V8 on Jun 5, 2022 4:17:17 GMT
Pretty sure I read he has recently been getting into prog rock.... thats a good thing
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Post by SicJes on Jun 8, 2022 17:04:03 GMT
Any footage of Kirk in the studio making this? I'd love to see the process.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Feb 26, 2023 14:36:08 GMT
Did anyone actually buy this? Just listened to a few times and that was enough.
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Post by SicJes on Feb 26, 2023 14:42:36 GMT
Did anyone actually buy this? Just listened to a few times and that was enough. It's on my list of things to do 🙂 I listen to it all the time. I'll probably order a physical copy the same time I order 72 Seasons, save on the shipping fees (I think) |
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Post by ford71V8 on Feb 27, 2023 0:00:41 GMT
Vinyl and CD.... havent played it since sometime last year. I wont be able to not compare 72 seasons to it even though Kirk was doing something different
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Post by Kimbo on Feb 27, 2023 21:15:08 GMT
Listed to this today, still like it very much.
It’s weird that the guy who made this also “arranged” the solos for Hardwired and Lux.
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Post by SicJes on Feb 28, 2023 1:53:13 GMT
Listed to this today, still like it very much. It’s weird that the guy who made this also “arranged” the solos for Hardwired and Lux. I'm not shocked. This was HIS baby, not Lars and James. He can hide behind those 2 with ease under the Metallica banner. Out on his own, left alone to write during the lockdowns probably had an immense impact on his creative output. Gave him time to let an idea blossom into something wonderful instead of being pruned and trimmed just as the first buds start to sprout and appear. |
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