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Post by BMus1 on Jan 19, 2023 18:26:21 GMT
As an on-set exec. producer he fully deserves charges. The same as the armorer though? Not sure on that.
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Post by Mob on Jan 19, 2023 18:28:03 GMT
As an on-set exec. producer he fully deserves charges. The same as the armorer though? Not sure on that. What’s your reasoning? I’m curious |
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 19, 2023 18:35:32 GMT
As an on-set exec. producer he fully deserves charges. The same as the armorer though? Not sure on that. What’s your reasoning? I’m curious He's part of the board calling the shots on the movie, as far as what I've read has been telling me. If he was just a hired actor spending time in his trailer when he wasn't shooting, I don't think he would deserve these charges. The armorer is definitely the main issue here, but Alec should be assuming some responsibility with the amount of roles on and off screen he has for this movie. |
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Post by Overkill on Jan 19, 2023 19:05:11 GMT
What’s your reasoning? I’m curious He's part of the board calling the shots on the movie, as far as what I've read has been telling me. If he was just a hired actor spending time in his trailer when he wasn't shooting, I don't think he would deserve these charges. The armorer is definitely the main issue here, but Alec should be assuming some responsibility with the amount of roles on and off screen he has for this movie. Nice one  |
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 19, 2023 19:14:35 GMT
OOF!
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 19, 2023 19:29:49 GMT
When you read the assistant director gets 6 months probation and no jail time for pleading guilty to negligence; that an additional investigation budget of 300K was awarded, and the prosecutor wants an additional charge, reads a bit like someone wants to be a superstar...
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jan 22, 2023 3:03:32 GMT
Hope Baldwin goes to jail, he probably won't though.
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Post by ModerusPrime on Jan 22, 2023 17:09:19 GMT
What’s your reasoning? I’m curious He's part of the board calling the shots on the movie, as far as what I've read has been telling me. If he was just a hired actor spending time in his trailer when he wasn't shooting, I don't think he would deserve these charges. The armorer is definitely the main issue here, but Alec should be assuming some responsibility with the amount of roles on and off screen he has for this movie. The problem is that he's not an Exec Producer, he's listed as just a producer, and that puts the issue of is he really a hands on producer or just someone who has money tied to the production to get the movie made. For all intents and purposes, at the time of the accident, he was an actor on set who was told by multiple people (whose job it is to make the gun safe) before being handed the gun that it was cold. Why even hire them if we're going to now require the actors to do their jobs too?
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Post by ModerusPrime on Jan 22, 2023 17:10:18 GMT
When you read the assistant director gets 6 months probation and no jail time for pleading guilty to negligence; that an additional investigation budget of 300K was awarded, and the prosecutor wants an additional charge, reads a bit like someone wants to be a superstar... And then you read that they aren't being charged with shooting the second person because "there's no crime there". |
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Post by SicJes on Jan 22, 2023 17:37:27 GMT
I will always stand behind Alec Baldwin.
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jan 22, 2023 18:13:25 GMT
I will always stand behind Alec Baldwin.  |
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Post by Overkill on Jan 22, 2023 19:12:03 GMT
I will always stand behind Alec Baldwin.  |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 22, 2023 21:12:30 GMT
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 22, 2023 21:15:10 GMT
Q:As for the actor part, how is it possible for him to be charged if he was told that the gun was a cold gun and wasn’t loaded with live ammo? How much is that his responsibility as an actor?
A:First of all, it’s not his responsibility as an actor to ensure prop safety. There’s somebody on set specifically to do that, who’s an expert. Actors, they’re not even allowed to do that. What people don’t understand is, the Screen Actors Guild, the union, does not allow any producer, anybody, to use an actor for anything on set other than acting. You can’t use an actor to help decorate, to do lights, to do locations. He or she just can act, and that’s it.
I guess our squirrel friend would call this lawyer a fucking idiot too, because ermagerd it takes 5 seconds to check a gun.
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Post by ModerusPrime on Jan 22, 2023 21:55:34 GMT
Q:As for the actor part, how is it possible for him to be charged if he was told that the gun was a cold gun and wasn’t loaded with live ammo? How much is that his responsibility as an actor? A:First of all, it’s not his responsibility as an actor to ensure prop safety. There’s somebody on set specifically to do that, who’s an expert. Actors, they’re not even allowed to do that. What people don’t understand is, the Screen Actors Guild, the union, does not allow any producer, anybody, to use an actor for anything on set other than acting. You can’t use an actor to help decorate, to do lights, to do locations. He or she just can act, and that’s it. I guess our squirrel friend would call this lawyer a fucking idiot too, because ermagerd it takes 5 seconds to check a gun. Which was myself and a few other people's arguments and he just kept insisting we were uneducated and didn't know the "facts" and needed to go read up on things. Then when he finally realized he was wrong and had also made other mistakes, his responses became laughing emoji's and shit like "OK!!!!!" |
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Post by forgotten in space on Jan 22, 2023 23:40:54 GMT
Q:As for the actor part, how is it possible for him to be charged if he was told that the gun was a cold gun and wasn’t loaded with live ammo? How much is that his responsibility as an actor? A:First of all, it’s not his responsibility as an actor to ensure prop safety. There’s somebody on set specifically to do that, who’s an expert. Actors, they’re not even allowed to do that. What people don’t understand is, the Screen Actors Guild, the union, does not allow any producer, anybody, to use an actor for anything on set other than acting. You can’t use an actor to help decorate, to do lights, to do locations. He or she just can act, and that’s it. I guess our squirrel friend would call this lawyer a fucking idiot too, because ermagerd it takes 5 seconds to check a gun. Which was myself and a few other people's arguments and he just kept insisting we were uneducated and didn't know the "facts" and needed to go read up on things. Then when he finally realized he was wrong and had also made other mistakes, his responses became laughing emoji's and shit like "OK!!!!!" I saw a few of those, maybe the mods just decided to delete it before it went real south and I didn't miss anything. |
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Post by Prometheus426 on Jan 25, 2023 13:51:12 GMT
This reminds of the accident on The Crow where Brandon Lee died, never watched the film though.
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Post by Overkill on Jan 25, 2023 15:11:35 GMT
This reminds of the accident on The Crow where Brandon Lee died, never watched the film though. Is it good? |
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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Jan 25, 2023 15:27:38 GMT
As an on-set exec. producer he fully deserves charges. The same as the armorer though? Not sure on that. Both should go to jail. Baldwin owns the production company, he was the executive producer, armorer was hired because of nepotism who disregarded safety protocols. Carelessness and negligence with both Baldwin and the armorer justifies this decision to charge them. Doesn't matter if the armorer missed safety steps, its on Baldwin to check the gun before firing. He's last in line. Mind you he's been in multiple movies where he held a gun and used one, you can't tell me he doesn't know how to safely make sure it's ready to use.
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Post by forgotten in space on Feb 20, 2023 20:49:05 GMT
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 21, 2023 3:26:49 GMT
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Post by Prometheus426 on Apr 21, 2023 3:34:49 GMT
It's all very suspect, i wonder what the conspiracy theorists make of this. |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 21, 2023 3:37:29 GMT
It's all very suspect, i wonder what the conspiracy theorists make of this. Sig would "know" LOL |
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 21, 2023 4:15:43 GMT
No surprises.
People living in that stratosphere dont go to jail
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Post by BigBunny on Apr 21, 2023 8:53:29 GMT
No surprises. People living in that stratosphere dont go to jail he's back to making the film, I don't understand how he could do it... keep making the same film that is. |
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 21, 2023 10:09:28 GMT
No surprises. People living in that stratosphere dont go to jail Yeah they do, when there is reason and proof. Robert Blake, Phil Spector etc. went to jail. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 21, 2023 13:03:16 GMT
No surprises. People living in that stratosphere dont go to jail Yeah they do, when there is reason and proof. Robert Blake, Phil Spector etc. went to jail. *dont often / hardly ever / somehow avoid / etc. (Who is Robert Blake?) |
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 21, 2023 14:45:47 GMT
Yeah they do, when there is reason and proof. Robert Blake, Phil Spector etc. went to jail. *dont often / hardly ever / somehow avoid / etc. This is more like it. He was an actor |
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Post by ModerusPrime on Apr 21, 2023 17:04:06 GMT
"People living in that stratosphere dont go to jail"
"*dont often / hardly ever / somehow avoid / etc."
Felicity Huffman
Robert Downey Jr
Sean Penn
Mike Tyson
Christian Slater
Kiefer Sutherland
Harvey Weinstein
Bill Cosby
Lori Loughlin
Wesley Snipes
Martha FUCKING Stewart
Come again?
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Post by ford71V8 on Apr 21, 2023 23:27:21 GMT
Fair enough.
Now make the other list.
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