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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 11:33:30 GMT
I thought DM was them playing AJFA riffs with a guitar tone like Load, and that's how they've sounded ever since Kirk started playing rhythm on albums. It seems James got tired of being a multitracking machine after TBA, which is a shame as his scooped tone is what made me a fan.
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 18, 2016 12:07:01 GMT
DM has a guitar tone like Load ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 13:59:38 GMT
Less twangy (cos they didn't use Telecasters this time) but as much mids as Load.
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Post by lightning master on Jul 18, 2016 14:12:52 GMT
"Finding the best guitar tone ever...so I only need to lay down 1 guitar track instead of five, and I'll do it all in one take for that live vibe." JH Where/when did he say that? I think he didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 15:23:42 GMT
Less twangy (cos they didn't use Telecasters this time) but as much mids as Load. They didn't use them all that much on Load either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 15:44:40 GMT
No indeed but that's besides the point. There's a riff on Unforgiven 3 pretty similar to the verse riff in Memory Remains, and the guitar tones sound close to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 16:02:19 GMT
He didn't say the second part.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:49:38 GMT
well he said he found the best guitar tone ever on his best things of 2015 list.
the other part, i suspect, is a joke.
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Post by SicJes on Jul 19, 2016 5:03:56 GMT
well he said he found the best guitar tone ever on his best things of 2015 list. the other part, i suspect, is a joke.  |
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 19, 2016 5:22:09 GMT
No indeed but that's besides the point. There's a riff on Unforgiven 3 pretty similar to the verse riff in Memory Remains, and the guitar tones sound close to me. One riff in one song isn't enough to make a statement that DM and Load guitar tones are a like  They are generally far from each other, The Memory Remains is also down half a step, if I remember correctly |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 15:28:26 GMT
No indeed but that's besides the point. There's a riff on Unforgiven 3 pretty similar to the verse riff in Memory Remains, and the guitar tones sound close to me. One riff in one song isn't enough to make a statement that DM and Load guitar tones are a like They are generally far from each other, The Memory Remains is also down half a step, if I remember correctly I picked an obvious example just to illustrate my point. If you don't believe me, pop one guitar sample from Load and another from DM through a spectrometer, and you'll see they both have way more in common than DM has with AJFA. |
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Post by MugCostanza on Jul 19, 2016 19:25:33 GMT
I thought DM was them playing AJFA riffs with a guitar tone like Load, and that's how they've sounded ever since Kirk started playing rhythm on albums. It seems James got tired of being a multitracking machine after TBA, which is a shame as his scooped tone is what made me a fan. It's interesting you say that. I've always thought the majority of Death Magnetic was made up of riffs that had the same bounce and groove of Load/ReLoad mixed with an attempt to arrange them into songs with similar structure to ... And Justice for All. |
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Post by SicJes on Jul 19, 2016 20:13:20 GMT
Yeah, DM is full of Loadish type riffs. That album has a bit of everything. It's great, I love it. The sound never bothered me much. Could have been way better without the dryness and clipping, but compared to some of the albums I've heard over the years, it sounds as good as the Black Album.
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Post by Shadow Tag on Jul 20, 2016 1:04:34 GMT
If you've been deliberately seeking out really bad sounding albums sure.
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Post by Kimbo on Jul 20, 2016 6:56:03 GMT
One riff in one song isn't enough to make a statement that DM and Load guitar tones are a like They are generally far from each other, The Memory Remains is also down half a step, if I remember correctly I picked an obvious example just to illustrate my point. If you don't believe me, pop one guitar sample from Load and another from DM through a spectrometer, and you'll see they both have way more in common than DM has with AJFA. I didn't say it resembles AJFA, I said the guitar tone on DM is nothing like the one on Load. It's got nothing to do with riffs being alike or samey. |
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Post by MugCostanza on Jul 20, 2016 20:12:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 22:04:15 GMT
Lead Vocals
Background Vocals
Solos
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Post by henning77 on Jul 21, 2016 1:08:03 GMT
Very interesting. Never thought that was the purpose of the whiteboard. Cool...
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Post by Zalman on Jul 21, 2016 2:35:03 GMT
We're over halfway through July and still no proper announcement...
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Post by ford71V8 on Jul 21, 2016 4:22:47 GMT
Very interesting. Never thought that was the purpose of the whiteboard. Cool... Well that, and Kirk's work on field-induced variations of electron quasi-momentum |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 9:32:44 GMT
Kirk's definitely induced by a field of something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 10:14:28 GMT
We're over halfway through July and still no proper announcement... Which is not unusual dependant on the album's release date. For exampleK - Reveal of DM title: June 14 2008
- Coffin box announcement: July 09 2008
- Cover art released: July 17 2008- Tracklisting revealed: July 23 2008- Album completed announcement: August 10 2008- Album released: September 12 2008So between the title reveal and the album being (officially) release is a day under 3 months. So if the album is out in November (which would make sense as Lars has intimated that he'd like the MOP deluxe box out in September), then August would be the "usual" time for an announcement. But then again - who knows! |
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Post by Jayzon on Jul 21, 2016 10:24:15 GMT
I hope they don't store the masters in Kirk's phone. We all know how safe THAT is.
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Post by griever77 on Jul 21, 2016 17:19:12 GMT
This wait seems more boring than usual. Nothing really exciting has surfaced yet. My checking in on the boards has deceased to maybe once a week if that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 17:34:22 GMT
Pretty much the only thing I'm hoping for is that it is worth the wait.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 19:44:07 GMT
I thought DM was them playing AJFA riffs with a guitar tone like Load, and that's how they've sounded ever since Kirk started playing rhythm on albums. It seems James got tired of being a multitracking machine after TBA, which is a shame as his scooped tone is what made me a fan. It's interesting you say that. I've always thought the majority of Death Magnetic was made up of riffs that had the same bounce and groove of Load/ReLoad mixed with an attempt to arrange them into songs with similar structure to ... And Justice for All. I don't know, riffs on DM are still much faster and chuggier than on Load. But it does remind me of a Load/AJFA crossover. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 19:55:06 GMT
I picked an obvious example just to illustrate my point. If you don't believe me, pop one guitar sample from Load and another from DM through a spectrometer, and you'll see they both have way more in common than DM has with AJFA. I didn't say it resembles AJFA, I said the guitar tone on DM is nothing like the one on Load. It's got nothing to do with riffs being alike or samey. I said the tone was "like Load" because of the way it's EQ'd. Lots of midrange, whereas the old stuff is completely scooped. And the riffs and arrangements are reminiscent of AJFA (e.g. That was just your life, Day that never comes, Suicide & Redemption, etc). I don't know you and I don't know if you're familiar with sound lingo, so I'll explain a bit. More mids makes you sound brighter. Scooped mids make your tone darker and muffled, and tiny, You have to multitrack like hell to have a big sound when using little mids. James was the master at this, but he stopped doing that when Kirk started playing rhythm on albums and Kirk had a lot more mids in his tone than James in the early days. Nowadays both use a lot of midrange, hence me saying the tone on DM is quite close to Load, perhaps just more distorted and less roomy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 20:27:28 GMT
Very interesting. Never thought that was the purpose of the whiteboard. Cool... really? what did you think it was? |
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Post by henning77 on Jul 21, 2016 22:51:21 GMT
Very interesting. Never thought that was the purpose of the whiteboard. Cool... really? what did you think it was? I didn't know what it was, which is why it was questionable for so long................,......... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 8:26:41 GMT
We need some more news. This forum is quiet lately.
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