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Post by Kimbo on Apr 12, 2016 7:28:17 GMT
They are really scared of sharing any info what so ever, I don't understand that at all. I'd much rather he said the month they were aiming for, and if it's delayed it's delayed. Much better than the constant yadayada speech
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 12, 2016 8:43:19 GMT
They are really scared of sharing any info what so ever, I don't understand that at all. I'd much rather he said the month they were aiming for, and if it's delayed it's delayed. Much better than the constant yadayada speech Or just stop talking about it altogether
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Post by lightning master on Apr 12, 2016 13:48:16 GMT
They are really scared of sharing any info what so ever, I don't understand that at all. I'd much rather he said the month they were aiming for, and if it's delayed it's delayed. Much better than the constant yadayada speech Or just stop talking about it altogether So they should just say no comment when being asked about it?
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 12, 2016 13:51:25 GMT
Or just stop talking about it altogether So they should just say no comment when being asked about it? A yes or a no goes a long way
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Post by lightning master on Apr 12, 2016 14:01:11 GMT
So they should just say no comment when being asked about it? A yes or a no goes a long way But I'm guessing they mostly get asked about how it's coming along.
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 12, 2016 14:09:19 GMT
It's a pointless question to ask them, they are mage level trolls when it comes to anything to do with new material.
Look at "the new song" as an example.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 13, 2016 7:05:17 GMT
It's a pointless question to ask them, they are mage level trolls when it comes to anything to do with new material. Look at "the new song" as an example. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think it's possible to just wave off those particular questions. The new album questions mostly comes along with an interview about something else, if so they have to make a rule about no album related questions allowed, and that is just damn dickish.
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 13, 2016 7:41:29 GMT
Lars Ulrich sounds like a true politician. That comment is about as convoluted a way to say a thing as you can get. He's saying a lot without really saying anything. I'll believe the album exists when I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 7:48:25 GMT
Lars' way of handling the press has not changed since TBA. It's not really rocket science:
He's asked about the album the truth is that they are working on it at their own pace and it will be out when they decided it's finished.
That's pretty much the reality and we're all bright enough to know that. But he chooses to express it in a non-committal way. But everything he's said boils down to my second sentence. I don't know why people seem to have this need for any of the band to EXPLICITLY state what I just did. It's obvious. Why does it need to be spelled out?
It's in progress. It'll be out at some point. No strings, no fixed dates, no pressure.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 13, 2016 8:01:00 GMT
It's only really the hardcore day to day followers who gives a shit anyways. The majority will just take it when it's out
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Post by Alan-P on Apr 13, 2016 8:12:06 GMT
It's only really the hardcore day to day followers who gives a shit anyways. The majority will just take it when it's out Aye, I am fully expecting them to have taken nothing on-board from the last album and Lords of Shite, the production will suck, the guitars will be weak as piss and the drums will sound like an upturned tupperware box. There will also be no reverb just to make it that little bit more flat and bland.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 13, 2016 8:27:20 GMT
People will get hurt if that turns out to be the case. I can't take another sonic disaster
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 11:17:43 GMT
It's only really the hardcore day to day followers who gives a shit anyways. The majority will just take it when it's out Aye, I am fully expecting them to have taken nothing on-board from the last album and Lords of Shite, the production will suck, the guitars will be weak as piss and the drums will sound like an upturned tupperware box. There will also be no reverb just to make it that little bit more flat and bland. I think they want it to sound raw and unpolished which i don't really understand.
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Post by henning77 on Apr 13, 2016 14:56:32 GMT
Lars "Just picture the inner winding of a yoyo that's gone fucking bonkers. Now throw the tin man in the campfire and hope he farts back at the migdet. Last year my gas was unleaded but now the junk I buy eats toaster glue made by Elmer fud...laugh. Sometimes the music gets me to those places. Cheers and count the stars and devide them by your pubes.. There's the album date..."
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 13, 2016 16:31:06 GMT
I just think it's infuriating that they skirt around the issue like that, when many other bands will give much more straight-up answers and predictions. I'm sure Metallica are not the only ones who speak in riddles like that, but they're certainly the only ones who do this that I follow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 17:28:39 GMT
I just think it's infuriating that they skirt around the issue like that, when many other bands will give much more straight-up answers and predictions. I'm sure Metallica are not the only ones who speak in riddles like that, but they're certainly the only ones who do this that I follow. What the hell are you people going on about? He said 2016, barring something big happening. How is that an unreasonable answer or somehow uninformative or vague? Am I not reading the same update as you people?
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Post by yepsure on Apr 13, 2016 20:47:45 GMT
Yeah, there's no riddle there, nothing vague. He said this year, clear as day.
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Post by archstanton on Apr 13, 2016 21:03:46 GMT
I think they want it to sound raw and unpolished which i don't really understand. I can understand wanting that, what I can't understand is how a band of their experience seem to have no real idea how to achieve it without sounding like shit.
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Post by archstanton on Apr 13, 2016 21:09:19 GMT
Metallica have essentially been in one massive identity crisis ever since the huge success of The Black Album. Unless they entered a new and different identity crisis after the rejection of St. Anger.
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 13, 2016 21:10:13 GMT
"Unless something radical happens it would be difficult for me to believe that it won’t come out in 2016." That's a whole lotta words for saying "Album coming out in 2016." No, there's something more. It truly seems to me that Lars doesn't want to commit to something he's not 100% certain about, that is giving a definite release date, or even year. And I can't blame him for that. Basically, by saying that he's giving Metallica an out for the scenario where delays DO happen. And I'm pretty sure something will come up.
But as long as he's not certain, why give anything at all? Just say "It's done when it's done." That would be far less irritating to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 21:28:45 GMT
Saying it's done when it's done gets him bitched at for being vague or being a dick. They can't give an answer for you people, except not giving an answer also gets them bitched at.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 22:22:06 GMT
Saying it's done when it's done gets him bitched at for being vague or being a dick. They can't give an answer for you people, except not giving an answer also gets them bitched at. Fucking... THANK YOU!
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2016 5:35:01 GMT
Jesus christ it's not that hard to give a normal informative update. They might have said 2016 but that's extremely safe to say, which is also fine. What I'm annoyed about is all the constant bullshit all the way back from 2012.
Like Lars's stuff with it being ready somewhere within the next 1000 years yadayda, if you know it's still 2 years away then just say it, people would take that much more of a straight answer instead of the all the shit talk. Christ, users on this and the old board have constantly guesses that the album might have been ready and they would announce it from day to day. This idea have been vented time after time and such ideas only get spawned when stupid vague answers are given all the freaking time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 7:58:26 GMT
Yeah but Kimbo, the vague answers are because they HAVE no answer. They have no deadline, no record company pushing them to release in a particular quarter... they are working at their own pace. He has no cliue how far OR near the album is because they appear to have no fixed timetable. They work on it and then they don't. It proceeds at it's own pace. THAT'S what they are trying to say. Honestly, it can't be any more apparent. There is no news other than 'it's happening'/ But when you get asked in every single interview about it, what can you do.
Imagine how shitty people would get if they all gave the same answer to the new album question: "we're working on it". At least they are attempting to offer a kind of perspective.
Metallica: damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Post by Kimbo on Apr 14, 2016 8:09:18 GMT
They might not know exactly what year the record will be out, and that's fine, but they damn sure know whether it will be another 2-3-4 years. They've been sifting through riffs for what seems like 5 years now. Instead of vague answers just give straight up answers about their progress. "yeah we have about 6 demos ready know" "We are entering the studio with 18 songs and we'll cook it down and see what will make the record" "We have recorded about 4 songs now so things are moving on"Anything but usual Lars/Kirk shitty stuff which they only say to make the reporter shut up. Like Alan said, even though probably not possible, I'd rather have them say nothing at all than all this crap they've been putting out for years.
They have all given incoherent answers about the progress throughout the years, Hetfield will say something, people will get mildly excited and then Kirk will go on the week after and say something completely different.
It's just a shitty way of doing it. I normally don't really care about stuff like that, but it has gotten really ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 12:23:25 GMT
They might not know exactly what year the record will be out, and that's fine, but they damn sure know whether it will be another 2-3-4 years. They've been sifting through riffs for what seems like 5 years now. Instead of vague answers just give straight up answers about their progress. "yeah we have about 6 demos ready know" "We are entering the studio with 18 songs and we'll cook it down and see what will make the record" "We have recorded about 4 songs now so things are moving on"Anything but usual Lars/Kirk shitty stuff which they only say to make the reporter shut up. Like Alan said, even though probably not possible, I'd rather have them say nothing at all than all this crap they've been putting out for years. They have all given incoherent answers about the progress throughout the years, Hetfield will say something, people will get mildly excited and then Kirk will go on the week after and say something completely different. It's just a shitty way of doing it. I normally don't really care about stuff like that, but it has gotten really ridiculous. I remember Rob gave an update at some point about having a certain number of demos...and for years after I heard nothing but complaining about how he lead people on and made them think Metallica was much further ahead in the process because they had Yada Yada number of demoes well how come it isn't out yet then if they had why does it take so long to if did they scrap all the demos or was he just leading why was rob lying to us he doesn't have a clue wish they'd just be honest....and so forth. Maybe I just don't follow it as closely, I have no idea, but I've never had a single instance since DM where I thought the album would be here soon, until this year when they said it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 12:40:47 GMT
They might not know exactly what year the record will be out, and that's fine, but they damn sure know whether it will be another 2-3-4 years. They've been sifting through riffs for what seems like 5 years now. Instead of vague answers just give straight up answers about their progress. "yeah we have about 6 demos ready know" "We are entering the studio with 18 songs and we'll cook it down and see what will make the record" "We have recorded about 4 songs now so things are moving on"Anything but usual Lars/Kirk shitty stuff which they only say to make the reporter shut up. Like Alan said, even though probably not possible, I'd rather have them say nothing at all than all this crap they've been putting out for years. They have all given incoherent answers about the progress throughout the years, Hetfield will say something, people will get mildly excited and then Kirk will go on the week after and say something completely different. It's just a shitty way of doing it. I normally don't really care about stuff like that, but it has gotten really ridiculous. But... they don't! That's the point. to quote lars in SKOM "When's a record "done"? What the fuck's that mean anyway? 'Done'?". They can't predict what is going to happen both creatively, personally and professionally. They've been saying all along 'we're working on it, it'll come out when it's finished' because that IS the truth and the reality of the situation. They don't HAVE to give straight up answers. Perhaps they can't. "Well for track 1 we've got backing tracks down but no vocals and only a scratch guitar line..." it would be silly. And they can't just not answer questions about the new album. Imagine the meltdown people would have if they refused to answer that question. I'm not targeting you specifically but I really don't know why people are getting so bent out of shape about this. The album will come out when it's done, when they get asked about it they don't feel in a place/want to discuss it in depth so they give a vaguely positive answer. It's been that way for years.
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Post by majako73 on Apr 14, 2016 13:51:22 GMT
Take it easy Kimbo...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 15:00:44 GMT
They might not know exactly what year the record will be out, and that's fine, but they damn sure know whether it will be another 2-3-4 years. They've been sifting through riffs for what seems like 5 years now. Instead of vague answers just give straight up answers about their progress. "yeah we have about 6 demos ready know" "We are entering the studio with 18 songs and we'll cook it down and see what will make the record" "We have recorded about 4 songs now so things are moving on"Anything but usual Lars/Kirk shitty stuff which they only say to make the reporter shut up. Like Alan said, even though probably not possible, I'd rather have them say nothing at all than all this crap they've been putting out for years. They have all given incoherent answers about the progress throughout the years, Hetfield will say something, people will get mildly excited and then Kirk will go on the week after and say something completely different. It's just a shitty way of doing it. I normally don't really care about stuff like that, but it has gotten really ridiculous. I kinda agree, i'll still be surprised if it comes out this year despite Lars saying it should. My guess is that they have better things to do.
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Post by Jayzon on Apr 14, 2016 15:39:18 GMT
I still say what I've said all along: I'll be surprised if the album comes out in 2016. Every passing day, it seems less likely. But I will gladly be proven wrong. I just fear that I'm right. And the constant non-answers and elusive commenting does absolutely nothing to convince me otherwise.
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