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Post by killemallforone on Sept 20, 2020 11:32:27 GMT
These versions best display Lars' descent into overplaying madness, in my opinion.
1999 - tasteful, serves the song
2019 - fucking snare drum fills every 4 bars in a slow ballad
WHY DOES HE DO IT?
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Post by killemallforone on Sept 20, 2020 11:54:02 GMT
Oh shit I've just seen this - fuck me it's amazing, wish Lars had played like this on S&M 2
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Post by yepsure on Sept 20, 2020 12:14:13 GMT
I absolutely cannot stand the S&M2 performance of Nothing Else Matters because of all the obnoxious fills, which is a genuine shame because it's really great performance otherwise. He completely ruined it.
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Post by tribeleader on Sept 20, 2020 16:59:29 GMT
I think Lars tries to prove that he doesn't suck by playing so many unnecessary out of tempo fills every 4 bar which makes him suck more than ever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 17:30:35 GMT
There are good and subtle ways of playing 'extra' while being interesting also not being obnoxious, and Lars doesn't do well with that. He doesn't have that feather, tech drummer's touch, he's more of a Animal from The Muppets kind of drummer, except not as good as Animal.
Can't blame him for being bored of playing these songs a million times either.
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Post by jackers on Sept 20, 2020 17:42:55 GMT
I think that NEM is like Unforgiven. Amazing studio songs that suck live since 1993.
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Post by heini92 on Sept 20, 2020 20:13:48 GMT
NEM has actually sounded good live since 1993 though, my favourite (don't know why) is the one from Live Earth 2007.
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Post by jayc on Sept 21, 2020 3:48:17 GMT
I think Lars tries to prove that he doesn't suck by playing so many unnecessary out of tempo fills every 4 bar which makes him suck more than ever. I don’t even think it’s that. He’s said multiple times that he gets bored paying things the same way so he “improvises” to make playing the same songs more pleasurable to him. I think the Roam tour contributed to that boredom and then the experimentation of the Load era added to the improv vibe. The problem is that his fills consist of only using the snare or the China crash. I’ve said it before, his best playing has been from 96-99: loose but still a backbeat, great choice of fills and not too OTT. |
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 21, 2020 18:51:35 GMT
I think that NEM is like Unforgiven. Amazing studio songs that suck live since 1993. That's when James started singing the chorus like on the album again -- high notes. And I'm glad he did! |
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Post by jackers on Sept 21, 2020 19:16:34 GMT
When? In 1992-1993 which are the best live versions of the song and which I can actually listen to he sings lower harmony while Jason and Kirk sing high harmony. I think that he began singing high notes once Jason was gone to save us from the atrocity of Robs higher clean vocals.
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 21, 2020 20:41:38 GMT
When? In 1992-1993 which are the best live versions of the song and which I can actually listen to he sings lower harmony while Jason and Kirk sing high harmony. I think that he began singing high notes once Jason was gone to save us from the atrocity of Robs higher clean vocals. Lol, sorry I meant to quote heini92 's post. In 2007 James began going for the high notes in the chrous again like in the early '90s. |
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Post by lightning master on Sept 22, 2020 0:18:01 GMT
When? In 1992-1993 which are the best live versions of the song and which I can actually listen to he sings lower harmony while Jason and Kirk sing high harmony. I think that he began singing high notes once Jason was gone to save us from the atrocity of Robs higher clean vocals. Lol, sorry I meant to quote heini92 's post. In 2007 James began going for the high notes in the chrous again like in the early '90s. Did some research now. Happened in 2006. |
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 22, 2020 15:00:53 GMT
Lol, sorry I meant to quote heini92 's post. In 2007 James began going for the high notes in the chrous again like in the early '90s. Did some research now. Happened in 2006. Just checked the Seoul gig from 2006 and, yes you're right, James went for the high notes but not in the first chorus. |
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Post by lightning master on Sept 22, 2020 16:04:22 GMT
Did some research now. Happened in 2006. Just checked the Seoul gig from 2006 and, yes you're right, James went for the high notes but not in the first chorus. Same thing on Live Earth. : ) |
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 22, 2020 18:35:59 GMT
Just checked the Seoul gig from 2006 and, yes you're right, James went for the high notes but not in the first chorus. Same thing on Live Earth. : ) So now we need to find exactly when he started singing all of the choruses like on the album. |
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 22, 2020 19:36:38 GMT
Just checked: since 2012 Jaymz's sung it like on the album.
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Post by BMus1 on Sept 22, 2020 19:46:35 GMT
Yeah I think they started doing the exact album arrangement starting with the 20th anniversary tour.
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