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Post by yepsure on Sept 25, 2020 3:20:41 GMT
I'll be happy if they make a new album, be it in any style - just as long as they make it for the right reasons. To me, the only album Metallica has done for the wrong reasons was Death Magnetic. To me, it felt like they were just trying to satisfy the needs of the "old school fans", who keep demanding MoP 2 or only focus on the 80s material. It didn't feel like their hearts were in it; it felt forced. But if they decide to do an 80s style thrash album because they want to, I'm all for it. If they decide to do a bluesy hard rock album because they want to, I'm all for it. If they decide to do a combination of the two, or any other style of album, because they want to, I'm all for it. Just don't try to please any particular part of your fandom just for the sake of pleasing them. Authenticity wins, always. And I definitely agree that doing things quicker often leads to superior results. As Wolfish said, songs like I Disappear and Hardwired are great examples of that, as are No Leaf Clover and -Human. Just write songs, record them, and be done with it. Overanalyzing and endless tweaking rarely makes things better (with Black Album being a great exception that breaks the rule). I agree with you that parts of DM do sound forced, but the entirety of Hardwired (the song) does too, from the generic intro, generic riffs, extremely cheesy forced swearing lyrics, to the generic drums to the generic solo. Not to mention, it's only the second song (I think) in Metallica's entire catalogue that the band have admitted to being 100% forced. And it's forced writing process is documented on video and shared with all of us to see. Not liking DM because it sounds forced but then loving and praising Hardwired, the most forced song in the bands history, is a complete contradiction. |
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Post by General Smithers on Sept 25, 2020 6:59:48 GMT
Wasn't the whole going back to the "Master of Puppets vibe" thing something that was encouraged by Rick Rubin, more so than the band themselves saying they were trying to do that kind of album when making Death Magnetic? I'm pretty sure there are quotes from Rick Rubin saying he was the one pushing the band in that direction.
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Post by Zalman on Sept 25, 2020 9:52:45 GMT
I want as much new music from them as possible. They aren't getting any younger. And honestly, while the album as a whole is very inconsistent to me, some of the songs on Hardwired are among their best work in my opinion. I just want them to continue that.
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Post by SicJes on Sept 25, 2020 12:42:40 GMT
I know Metallica like to be original and not do things others have done before đŸ˜‰
But, an album like Dave Grohl did, Probot, would be a cool exploration. 8 or so "tributeish" songs with guests and a few 100% Metallica songs. That'd be awesome.
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 26, 2020 17:05:49 GMT
Wasn't the whole going back to the "Master of Puppets vibe" thing something that was encouraged by Rick Rubin, more so than the band themselves saying they were trying to do that kind of album when making Death Magnetic? I'm pretty sure there are quotes from Rick Rubin saying he was the one pushing the band in that direction. If I remember right, Rubin encouraged them to embrace their '80s stuff and see if they could recapture that vibe. But the guys admitted that while it was a good idea to revisit some of those elements it's impossible to be in that same mindset (and write Mop 2) because they are now different people, its a totally diffent context altogether. |
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Post by Wolfish on Sept 26, 2020 17:14:43 GMT
I want as much new music from them as possible. They aren't getting any younger. And honestly, while the album as a whole is very inconsistent to me, some of the songs on Hardwired are among their best work in my opinion. I just want them to continue that. That's what I want from them too: write and put out as much material as possible. Hetfield surely has a lot to offer to the world of music (and in a way Hammett too to redeem himself after a hit and miss period). I sense they could've had 3 more studio albums of original material under their belt by now. If they could make the most of this downtime, the could be on the road to (almost) achieve it. And deep inside I think they have been working in secret all these months. |
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Post by R2D2 on Nov 29, 2020 18:04:42 GMT
I hope not. Their best shit was between RTL to AJFA, and I wished they'd focus on that or retire. This whole forever-TBA-Load meets downgraded versions of 80s material has made it's point. They all need to go take music lessons and re-educate themselves on their own music. And the stuff Het writes is too happy sounding for my tastes for a long time. Dark lyrics should have generally dark music with 'light music' only peering through the clouds at times. And get a better producer. There are lots of them. Get Devin Townsend. This might be one of the worst takes I've ever seent. And Devin Townsend is overrated. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 18:36:31 GMT
I hope not. Their best shit was between RTL to AJFA, and I wished they'd focus on that or retire. This whole forever-TBA-Load meets downgraded versions of 80s material has made it's point. They all need to go take music lessons and re-educate themselves on their own music. And the stuff Het writes is too happy sounding for my tastes for a long time. Dark lyrics should have generally dark music with 'light music' only peering through the clouds at times. And get a better producer. There are lots of them. Get Devin Townsend. This might be one of the worst takes I've ever seent. And Devin Townsend is overrated. Devin Townsend isn't overrated as a producer. I don't care what you think of him musically. He's also not mainstream popular, so it's hard to use the word overrated here. (you know who has been overrated for decades though?...) Most every record he's made is sonically clear and beautiful while being super layered. Certainly a lot better than the past few Metallica records, though most shit produced out there sounds better than the past few Metallica records. Metallica production has become a laughing stock of the genre. While being a band that can afford anything they need. The universe is never without irony. Everything else I said before that, well the 'too happy' 'dark lyrics' part is an opinion/taste. The rest is hard to argue objectively. Metallica's common setlist says everything. The songs they can't play a show without for over 30, knocking on 40 years says everything. If Metallica was a band that started on Load, most of us, if not all, would not be here. |
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Post by Wolfish on Dec 2, 2020 19:38:03 GMT
This might be one of the worst takes I've ever seent. And Devin Townsend is overrated. Certainly a lot better than the past few Metallica records, though most shit produced out there sounds better than the past few Metallica records. Metallica production has become a laughing stock of the genre. While being a band that can afford anything they need. The universe is never without irony. Why don't you like Lulu's or Hardwired's productions? They sound pretty stellar, maybe not Garage, Inc. or TBA-the Loads stellar but very good. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 0:37:18 GMT
Certainly a lot better than the past few Metallica records, though most shit produced out there sounds better than the past few Metallica records. Metallica production has become a laughing stock of the genre. While being a band that can afford anything they need. The universe is never without irony. Why don't you like Lulu's or Hardwired's productions? They sound pretty stellar, maybe not Garage, Inc. or TBA-the Loads stellar but very good. I listened to one Lulu track once and never did again. HW, drums sound like they belong in Fear Factory, not Metallica. The guitar tone James picked is poor for fast alt picking. I was really more thinking about St. Anger, DM, and BM though. HW was a move in a better direction though. |
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Post by Zalman on Jan 20, 2021 10:43:31 GMT
Sooo, yeah. It's 2021, the band has been quiet for months, there's absolutely nothing in the pipeline. Do we think they're actively working on it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 15:22:35 GMT
I would think so. They can't distract themselves with tours and other shit like usual
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Post by lightning master on Jan 20, 2021 16:33:49 GMT
I would think so. They can't distract themselves with tours and other shit like usual But what about the Familehs! |
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Post by Wolfish on Jan 20, 2021 21:26:39 GMT
A recent pic on Lars' IG had the caption "sweating out 2020" and he was on the drums in his house. The drums looked mic'ed. I'm sure they are working online and sporadically in the studio. Best case scenario live concerts will return at the end of 2021 so they have no "distractions". Plus, this year marks the 40th anniversary of the band so they must be preparing something special too.
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Post by lightning master on Jan 20, 2021 21:40:31 GMT
this year marks the 40th anniversary of the band That is...True of course but that is...Fucking crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 21:53:47 GMT
I would think they'd put out TBA box set this year, and would have played some TBA themed shows too if they could. I still don't even expect a new record to come this year, even if they finish one.
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Post by lightning master on Jan 20, 2021 22:30:51 GMT
I would think they'd put out TBA box set this year, and would have played some TBA themed shows too if they could. I still don't even expect a new record to come this year, even if they finish one. |
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Post by ford71V8 on Jan 20, 2021 23:24:05 GMT
I would think they'd put out TBA box set this year, and would have played some TBA themed shows too if they could. I still don't even expect a new record to come this year, even if they finish one.
TBA Box should be close surely. Kinda happy there are no options to do Black album focussed concerts.... the celebration of the Black Album has never really stopped (and we've already had the 'album in its entirety' shows.)
The 40th anniversary would be the focus so maybe new stuff in 2022.
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Post by jayc on Jan 21, 2021 12:55:04 GMT
Here's my wish list for this year
- TBA box set (deffo gonna happen I'm sure)
- 40th Anniversary celebrations: Live stream a performance of every album, played in full. 1 every other day (or every 2 days to allows for rest). From KEA to HWTSD, throw in an acoustic show too and a covers show too. Release them, as audio and/or visual packages but with no overdubs or fixes just mixed as it came from the floor.
- Release a couple of demos from the work-in-progress on the next album
- Sort out the shit with Mustaine so we can get an announcement of a NLTL box set
- Stay alive
Not too much to ask I don't reckon.
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 21, 2021 15:06:07 GMT
This is the most confident I've felt about a new album in awhile. I think it won't come til 2022 because of the 40th anniversary and the 30th of TBA (box set time??) but I feel like they'll have an album ready to go for 2022, probably finished this year. I love that live stream idea up there as well and I can see them doing a house tour for something like that. The live stream thing definitely takes the pressure off of learning everything for a crowd. Do it drive-in style where it's not actually streamed live.
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Post by Wolfish on Jan 21, 2021 15:30:51 GMT
They could very well be writing material for 2 albums actually, but they will probably sit on the material until the pandemic is over/controlled and they can tour behind the records.
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Post by jackers on Jan 21, 2021 17:47:21 GMT
this year marks the 40th anniversary of the band That is...True of course but that is...Fucking crazy. 40th anniversary does not sound too crazy to me. What sounds crazy is that it's 10th anniversary of 30th anniversary. |
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Post by lightning master on Jan 21, 2021 21:42:54 GMT
That is...True of course but that is...Fucking crazy. 40th anniversary does not sound too crazy to me. What sounds crazy is that it's 10th anniversary of 30th anniversary. Yeah. That too, definitely. |
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Post by yepsure on Jan 22, 2021 0:14:41 GMT
This is the most confident I've felt about a new album in awhile. I think it won't come til 2022 because of the 40th anniversary and the 30th of TBA (box set time??) but I feel like they'll have an album ready to go for 2022, probably finished this year. I love that live stream idea up there as well and I can see them doing a house tour for something like that. The live stream thing definitely takes the pressure off of learning everything for a crowd. Do it drive-in style where it's not actually streamed live. Is there new info or something that you're basing this on? Even if they have been/will be able to get together often enough to construct full songs, I don't see them even starting to record the album until next year. Earliest I see another album coming is 2023. EDIT: Just found this: blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-is-making-glacial-progress-on-new-album/ Don't get your hopes up boys, it's going to be a while. |
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Post by BMus1 on Jan 22, 2021 4:20:32 GMT
This is the most confident I've felt about a new album in awhile. I think it won't come til 2022 because of the 40th anniversary and the 30th of TBA (box set time??) but I feel like they'll have an album ready to go for 2022, probably finished this year. I love that live stream idea up there as well and I can see them doing a house tour for something like that. The live stream thing definitely takes the pressure off of learning everything for a crowd. Do it drive-in style where it's not actually streamed live. Is there new info or something that you're basing this on? Just confidence (lol right) and context clues of what they've been doing. Lars clearly alluded to demos happening when his mic setup changed when introducing the Metallica Monday videos (hopefully though that wasn't just acoustic versions for that November show) and the band has little distractions right now so for the first time they can focus on the music more than almost any event they want to plan. HTSD was recorded in about a year start to finish (besides them banging out Hardwired in Summer 2016) and that included a tour and a few one off shows in between. None of that is going to be possible right now so I'm just dumb hopeful right now. Definitely no insider info here haha.
Edit 2: Lol I didn't even see that link yepsure. Disregard everything I just said.
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Post by spartanmcdoodle on Jan 24, 2021 22:01:30 GMT
That is...True of course but that is...Fucking crazy. 40th anniversary does not sound too crazy to me. What sounds crazy is that it's 10th anniversary of 30th anniversary. Totally the thing that tripped me out too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 3:27:32 GMT
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Post by Zalman on Jan 26, 2021 7:50:46 GMT
Bless Rob, he knows we're hungry for news
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Post by jayc on Jan 27, 2021 10:12:49 GMT
Bless Rob, he knows we're hungry for news Here's my current state as a Metallica fan in 2021: I'm more hungry for news about the deluxe box set(s) than I am a new studio album. I liked DM and HTSD a ton. But I want that sweet nostalgia release, please. I'm very excited for TBA box but practically frothing for Load. Whilst new Metallica music certainly interests me and I'll climb about the hype train before and up to album release, it's not the post 200 stuff that I go to when i need to listen to the band. |
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Post by tribeleader on Jan 27, 2021 16:32:18 GMT
If it's another recycled thrash metal material they've been using for 40 years, no I don't want the new album either. I don't know why but all these post 2000 thrash songs sounds like it's recycled from MoP-Justice. Spit Out The Bone had potential but it's again too fucking long.
Whole HTSD album sounds like dragged down mixed version of MoP, TBA and Load. Hardwired is Battery 2.0 , Moth is radio-friendly Disposable, Dead is Disco Enter Sandman, Atlas is cover band trying to make Puppets song, Dream No More is Sad But AiC... and the list goes on. They have so much possibilities for a new album because they are not your typical metal band but they limit themselves so much sometimes it bugs me.
I think symphonic version of All Within My Hands is great example of that.
I'd also love to some exclusive stuff from Black, Load days rather than hearing 4662732832th version of the same thrash song.
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