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Post by FightFireWithStAnger on Nov 1, 2019 15:24:44 GMT
I normally don't care for these clickbaity short articles, but I would like to bring up the fact that when they did Ride the Lightning, they incorporated melodies and harmonies just because of Cliff introducing that. I feel that Kirk tried the same with some of the things he said in this article and they treated it differently. I get why they got shot down, but if he can actually play all of that stuff like he says he can, some of those solos or those riffs on these recent albums would've sounded more interesting. Alas, at the end of the day, he isn't the running that ship. I am curious to hear a Kirk Hammett solo album or project.
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Post by filthyheart on Nov 1, 2019 17:58:14 GMT
Probably those ideas didn't fit in with Metallica's sound
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 19:01:54 GMT
They never stopped Kirk from bringing in good riffs.
Remember, Kirk stopped drinking, and he can play ANYTHING now. /s
Kirk has been a hack for ages.
Remember Jason's ideas getting shot down? Yeah, listen to his other projects and you'll find out why.
James and Lars, except for questionable points of their career, know what they are doing.
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Post by Alan-P on Nov 1, 2019 19:23:48 GMT
Kirk was ahead of the times with his style, probably why he got in the band, but the reality is, he's not very good. At all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 19:32:58 GMT
btw, Kirk, playing shows with stupid fingerless gloves. I was listening to some of that on headphones and you can clearly hear it affecting his playing (duh) especially with palm muting, it sounds muffled and messy like you'd think it would sound. Someone should tell him to knock that off. What fashion queen he's becoming.
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Post by Ruflux on Nov 1, 2019 19:44:15 GMT
btw, Kirk, playing shows with stupid fingerless gloves. I was listening to some of that on headphones and you can clearly hear it affecting his playing (duh) especially with palm muting, it sounds muffled and messy like you'd think it would sound. Someone should tell him to knock that off. What fashion queen he's becoming. He plays shows with fingerless gloves only when it's so cold that his arthritis would completely fuck up his playing otherwise. Well researched there. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 20:03:15 GMT
btw, Kirk, playing shows with stupid fingerless gloves. I was listening to some of that on headphones and you can clearly hear it affecting his playing (duh) especially with palm muting, it sounds muffled and messy like you'd think it would sound. Someone should tell him to knock that off. What fashion queen he's becoming. He plays shows with fingerless gloves only when it's so cold that his arthritis would completely fuck up his playing otherwise. Well researched there. I'm still waiting for proof that he ever said he has arthritis so I can well research it. (I don't doubt it though) And I doubt having his palm covered (just looks like a long sleeve with thumb holes in it) is going to do much if it's cold. How many old fart guitar players do you see playing like this? Speaking of research, I just looked up the temps of cities of the more recent videos from this summer they've been releasing. Not particularly cold temps, Lars and Rob (and usually James) are in T shirts while Kirk is in leather or denim jackets with those long sleeve gloves things. Let's not pretend he hasn't been trying to be a fashion queen lately. I doubt he needs his right palm covered with fabric so his right palm arthritis doesn't act up. |
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Post by forgotten in space on Nov 1, 2019 21:30:45 GMT
it does seem here he is talking about little ideas and details, not key things like whole song structures or anything, which is probably an unfortunate level of micromanagement by the others. The way he expressed himself there was funny though. :p
Ordinarily I wouldn't be too bothered, because Kirk isn't that good to put it mildly, but there's been so much underpar stuff making it to the albums, so hey, one or more underpar but different couple of bits wouldn't hurt.
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Post by SicJes on Nov 2, 2019 1:01:55 GMT
I'm surprised he hasn't had his signature guitars have like a built in heater system or something. Warm strings and bridge with a hot chocolate dispenser next to the Jack input.
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Post by Ruflux on Nov 2, 2019 9:03:22 GMT
He plays shows with fingerless gloves only when it's so cold that his arthritis would completely fuck up his playing otherwise. Well researched there. I'm still waiting for proof that he ever said he has arthritis so I can well research it. (I don't doubt it though) And I doubt having his palm covered (just looks like a long sleeve with thumb holes in it) is going to do much if it's cold. How many old fart guitar players do you see playing like this? Speaking of research, I just looked up the temps of cities of the more recent videos from this summer they've been releasing. Not particularly cold temps, Lars and Rob (and usually James) are in T shirts while Kirk is in leather or denim jackets with those long sleeve gloves things. Let's not pretend he hasn't been trying to be a fashion queen lately. I doubt he needs his right palm covered with fabric so his right palm arthritis doesn't act up. You'd be surprised. Fingerless gloves are surprisingly warm and they're also tight enough to improve blood flow to the exposed part of the hand (the fingers) which warms them up.
I really, really doubt that he'd wear something as intrusive as fingerless gloves on stage playing guitar if he absolutely didn't have to. Looking at some historical footage, they really tend to only come out when the temps are lower. Since he's getting older it would make perfect sense that the temperature at which he starts having issues goes up and he can't play as well without something to keep his hands warm with.
And as for the general point of denim jackets, who cares? What does it matter what Kirk wears on stage? It's not in any way relevant to the general point of his ideas (apparently) being ignored, which is what this thread is about. It just feels like an undue attack on his character, which is really dumb since it's not like he's reading this.
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Post by SicJes on Nov 2, 2019 9:06:48 GMT
Also, if you wear them while jerking off, it's like someone else is stroking you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 13:37:03 GMT
Probably Lars's fault.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 14:07:47 GMT
I'm still waiting for proof that he ever said he has arthritis so I can well research it. (I don't doubt it though) And I doubt having his palm covered (just looks like a long sleeve with thumb holes in it) is going to do much if it's cold. How many old fart guitar players do you see playing like this? Speaking of research, I just looked up the temps of cities of the more recent videos from this summer they've been releasing. Not particularly cold temps, Lars and Rob (and usually James) are in T shirts while Kirk is in leather or denim jackets with those long sleeve gloves things. Let's not pretend he hasn't been trying to be a fashion queen lately. I doubt he needs his right palm covered with fabric so his right palm arthritis doesn't act up. You'd be surprised. Fingerless gloves are surprisingly warm and they're also tight enough to improve blood flow to the exposed part of the hand (the fingers) which warms them up.
I really, really doubt that he'd wear something as intrusive as fingerless gloves on stage playing guitar if he absolutely didn't have to. Looking at some historical footage, they really tend to only come out when the temps are lower. Since he's getting older it would make perfect sense that the temperature at which he starts having issues goes up and he can't play as well without something to keep his hands warm with.
And as for the general point of denim jackets, who cares? What does it matter what Kirk wears on stage? It's not in any way relevant to the general point of his ideas (apparently) being ignored, which is what this thread is about. It just feels like an undue attack on his character, which is really dumb since it's not like he's reading this.
Nah, it's dumb. He doesn't need his right palm covered in fabric in order to play when it's 70F outside. That's just ridiculous. As if, being a guitar player, your hands wouldn't already be warmed up and even sweaty before you even get onstage. This is just fanboying on your part, and no shit he's not reading this. Any attacking of character has to do with the obvious frustration (barely) of liking a band and yet being annoyed at some shitty choices they make and have been making for years, but I still like'em ultimately or I wouldn't be here. But I'm no musician worshiper either. I don't make excuses for them. My straightforward criticism on the ass end of the web about them is as useless as trying to protect them as holy here as well, so it's all ok. Sorry to fuck with your Metallihigh. |
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Post by Ruflux on Nov 2, 2019 17:26:39 GMT
You'd be surprised. Fingerless gloves are surprisingly warm and they're also tight enough to improve blood flow to the exposed part of the hand (the fingers) which warms them up.
I really, really doubt that he'd wear something as intrusive as fingerless gloves on stage playing guitar if he absolutely didn't have to. Looking at some historical footage, they really tend to only come out when the temps are lower. Since he's getting older it would make perfect sense that the temperature at which he starts having issues goes up and he can't play as well without something to keep his hands warm with.
And as for the general point of denim jackets, who cares? What does it matter what Kirk wears on stage? It's not in any way relevant to the general point of his ideas (apparently) being ignored, which is what this thread is about. It just feels like an undue attack on his character, which is really dumb since it's not like he's reading this.
Nah, it's dumb. He doesn't need his right palm covered in fabric in order to play when it's 70F outside. That's just ridiculous. As if, being a guitar player, your hands wouldn't already be warmed up and even sweaty before you even get onstage. This is just fanboying on your part, and no shit he's not reading this. Any attacking of character has to do with the obvious frustration (barely) of liking a band and yet being annoyed at some shitty choices they make and have been making for years, but I still like'em ultimately or I wouldn't be here. But I'm no musician worshiper either. I don't make excuses for them. My straightforward criticism on the ass end of the web about them is as useless as trying to protect them as holy here as well, so it's all ok. Sorry to fuck with your Metallihigh. Are you fucking for real, Metallihigh? Really? I couldn't give less of a shit what you think about these particular middle-aged millionaires or their ability to play on stage or whatever, I just couldn't help but notice you showed up in this thread to shit on the man like it was some well-established fact he's a washed-up joke that nobody likes or whatever. Are you really surprised that - on a Metallica forum, no less - somebody disagrees with your assessment that Kirk has become a hack and all his ideas suck and he plays shitty because he's more focused on clothing?
Like, this argument doesn't even make sense. You're being pissy over getting called out on your shit, and yet I'm the one with the perspective problem? Straightforward criticism my ass. You jumped straight to getting mad over what Kirk wears on stage and masterfully deducing that's why he's playing shitty now. Never mind the fact that he's actually improved since a couple of years back when he was consistently awful. He wasn't wearing fingerless gloves or denim jackets on stage back then either.
I'm perfectly capable of calling this band out when they deserve it. Like all the recent garbage promotions and sponsorships and whatever other nonsense they've been getting up to. Or yes, Kirk sounding like he just about remembers how to play the riff to Sandman and showing up on stage to play a full set. But you're just yelling at the void here and worse, your complaints are just absolute nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 18:21:53 GMT
First of all, I'm not pissy or mad over anything.
"You jumped straight to getting mad over what Kirk wears on stage and masterfully deducing that's why he's playing shitty now."
Well no. He was playing shitty before, for years, and the glove things certainly don't help now. There is no way that man needs his sweaty right palm covered in cloth in order to play guitar (worse.) Could least cut the cloth right at the right palm so he can palm mute properly. As far as the rest of what he wears, I never suggested the rest is hurting his playing, you're twisting words.
"I just couldn't help but notice you showed up in this thread to shit on the man like it was some well-established fact he's a washed-up joke that nobody likes or whatever."
Well no, I said it as my, and only my opinion. Boy do you love to twist things as a defense.
And btw, I can and will 'shit on' Kirk all I want. Couple of mods above seem to agree with me. Let's not act like threads are all completely on one and only one point all the time. So that's a bogus defense as well. I'm criticizing what Kirk -doesn't- bring to the table over the years and just extending on that.
"But you're just yelling at the void here and worse, your complaints are just absolute nonsense."
What do you think you're doing?
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Post by Alan-P on Nov 2, 2019 20:54:57 GMT
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Post by ModerusPrime on Nov 3, 2019 7:24:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 7:44:50 GMT
Is Sig being contrary and edgy again? No. And I can't imagine I ever have been before. I don't spend time being contrary or edgy, I just state what I think. You don't like or agree with what I say, that is just fine. I've had the same opinion on Kirk for many years so this is all quite silly. That said, carry on, no need to derail the thread any further. |
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Post by killemallforone on Nov 3, 2019 13:11:29 GMT
I love Kirk, but if he didn't contribute to Hardwired...and Hardwired is by far their best work in 25 years...then I'm cool with it.
It's not even necessarily that his ideas are shit, but it's the old too many cooks notion. If he can bring a killer idea like the My Apocalypse riff then cool but overall, just let James and Lars put the songs together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 19:13:52 GMT
I love Kirk, but if he didn't contribute to Hardwired...and Hardwired is by far their best work in 25 years...then I'm cool with it. Better than DM? I really don't think so... |
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Post by Jayzon on Nov 3, 2019 20:36:54 GMT
DM is their worst, Hardwired is their best. So yeah, it's better.
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Post by killemallforone on Nov 4, 2019 7:21:35 GMT
I love Kirk, but if he didn't contribute to Hardwired...and Hardwired is by far their best work in 25 years...then I'm cool with it. Better than DM? I really don't think so... Having unfortunately seen many of your 4,000+ posts, your lack of approval doesn't concern me in the slightest. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 12:41:18 GMT
I feel a solo project coming on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 18:27:41 GMT
I feel a solo project coming on. With your hand? |
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Post by General Smithers on Nov 12, 2019 8:05:38 GMT
I feel a solo project coming on. With your hand? The five knuckle shuffle. |
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Post by SicJes on Nov 12, 2019 14:29:46 GMT
Kirk will eventually do a side project, but it will be some sort of Hawaiian surfer Rockabilly music hybrid, with a digital Vincent Price narration over top, and he will then wonder why no one is into it.
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Post by Wolfish on Nov 13, 2019 0:01:37 GMT
I hope the band will use the Melbourne solo, which he was doing back in 2004, on any future Metallica material.
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Post by jayc on Nov 13, 2019 7:28:10 GMT
Here's the thing about Kirk: he needs to be pushed in the studio but he also needs to do his homework before he even plugs a guitar in. Example: the solo to Unforgiven. He'd done his prep before the studio but the cajoling and pushing of Bob Rock drove him to refine and perform one of the best solos of his career.
What he DOESN'T need is Lars sitting next to Fidelman telling him to get "nutty". Because all that does is make Kirk play the same boxed blues scales he's been doing to diminishing returns sine 1991. If he's so keen to bring other influences into Metallica then he can do so by actually constructing something that sounds good and has flavour an d THOUGHT put into it.
Mind you, let's not forget that back in the day, he'd have a fully formed demo to listen to and practice to. Nowadays , the way they write; piecemeal in the studio, clearly doesn't benefit him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 7:49:50 GMT
Bring back shit talking producers that will tell musicians they're playing trash.
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Post by SicJes on Nov 13, 2019 10:33:11 GMT
The Solos on DM, for the most part, where pretty fitting and well put together. There are a few trashy ones, but the ones that shine, shine strong, and are not just a cluster fuck of notes and wah.
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