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Post by Jayzon on Feb 11, 2016 14:02:35 GMT
I would want to say something, but I don't think I should say anything, because other people have already said everything, so I'll just say nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 14:14:55 GMT
By the sounds of things it might take another 2-3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 16:13:35 GMT
By the sounds of things it might take another 2-3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 16:15:12 GMT
You think i'm joking but they don't seem to be in any kind of rush.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 16:25:50 GMT
" We've been recording since May 2015 "
" We have several songs in the bag " - James
" We are almost done instrumentally " - Rob
Wait why am I even doing this ?
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Post by Kimbo on Feb 11, 2016 16:30:44 GMT
No idea!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 17:30:04 GMT
I'm trying to explain to HR....
Even if James posted a video saying " We've finished the album. It's mixed and mastered. it's out in September 2016. It's Done. "
Still some people would be saying " yeah yeah 2018 "
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Post by Kimbo on Feb 11, 2016 17:31:54 GMT
True
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Post by Jayzon on Feb 11, 2016 18:45:03 GMT
Even if James posted a video saying " We've finished the album. It's mixed and mastered. it's out in September 2016. It's Done. " Still some people would be saying " yeah yeah 2018 " If they WOULD say that, I would believe it. But they're not saying that. They're being very vague at best. And Kirk saying "We have no finished songs" in fucking FEBRUARY OF 2016 doesn't really bode well for a 2016 release. I hope I'm wrong, I really do! But.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 18:50:25 GMT
AGAIN....
Kirk said "We have no finished songs".
He didn't mention anything about still writing. We know they're recording. Since at least May 2015. Why the fuck would you start recording songs that aren't finished ?
Spider Dan on the official forums said basically the same thing. " He didn't say 'we haven't finished writing any songs - he probably means they haven't finished recording one complete song and are recording all of them at once. "
Rob said in early December that the album is mostly finished instrumentally - probably meaning that they just have solos and vocals to lay down.
Remember when James said " we have several songs IN THE BAG " - why would you say that if you have no finished songs yet ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 18:51:09 GMT
We need to bring the " Proof that they're recording " thread this side.
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Post by Alan-P on Feb 11, 2016 19:01:35 GMT
We need to bring the " Proof that they're recording " thread this side. Start it up then, you got fingers...
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Post by Jayzon on Feb 11, 2016 19:10:49 GMT
AGAIN.... Kirk said "We have no finished songs". He didn't mention anything about still writing. We know they're recording. Since at least May 2015. Why the fuck would you start recording songs that aren't finished ? All I know is he said "We have no finished songs". I don't know what he meant by it. Could be they're written, just not recorded. Could be they're not even written. I don't know. And in all fairness, nobody else KNOWS exactly what's going on other than the band themselves and those working with or otherwise close to them. You can have a very very VERY good feeling about things. But you do not literally KNOW. Spider Dan on the official forums said basically the same thing. " He didn't say 'we haven't finished writing any songs - he probably means they haven't finished recording one complete song and are recording all of them at once. " Key word here is "probably". Speculation, that's all it is. Yeah yeah, Spider Dan knows more than most. But even he is speculating here. Unless Kirk was asked to elaborate, there's really no knowing what he really meant by "no finished songs". Rob said in early December that the album is mostly finished instrumentally - probably meaning that they just have solos and vocals to lay down. I had to google that quote. That could mean a lot of things. Technically, 51% is a "majority". So if we're to believe that statement, they had anywhere from 51% to 99% tracked instrumentally. Remember when James said " we have several songs IN THE BAG " - why would you say that if you have no finished songs yet ? What does "in the bag" even mean? It can mean anything. A totally empty statement. I admire your passion, dude, I really do. But it's a little funny how militantly aggressive you get any time anybody says anything even slightly pessimistic about the process for the new album. And I'm not being pessimistic out of spite. I want that record to come out as much as the next guy. I know that they have done SOMETHING. I've heard the 10 second clip. I heard the tease at the Super Bowl show. I'm just fucking sick and tired of the vagueness, the non-information, the skirting around the issue and using cute paraphrasing when the guys talk about the process. I'd rather they said absolutely nothing, and just release the goddamn album whenever it's done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 19:21:44 GMT
I understand what you're saying Jayzon, i'm having real doubts about this album. All the delays to me point to little or no progress, it wouldn't surprise me if they are still sorting through riffs.
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Post by Jayzon on Feb 11, 2016 19:31:24 GMT
I understand what you're saying Jayzon, i'm having real doubts about this album. All the delays to me point to little or no progress, it wouldn't surprise me if they are still sorting through riffs. Now, I really wouldn't go that far. I think it's fairly obvious that they have made some progress. How much? I have no idea. But I feel pretty confident that they're not sorting through riffs anymore, and I think that they already have a bunch of songs written. They might even have a few songs fully recorded already. At least they have some PARTS recorded. But other than that, I really have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 20:45:21 GMT
I understand what you're saying Jayzon, i'm having real doubts about this album. All the delays to me point to little or no progress, it wouldn't surprise me if they are still sorting through riffs. YAWN.
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Post by Dr.House on Feb 11, 2016 21:39:57 GMT
...it wouldn't surprise me if they are still sorting through riffs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:49:14 GMT
...it wouldn't surprise me if they are still sorting through riffs. Pretty much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 23:15:27 GMT
But when is a song really finished?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 23:28:40 GMT
I'm assuming when all 4 people are happy with it and it has a beginning. middle and an ending - and they have begun recording it.
Or latterly - when the song is recorded and mixed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:10:45 GMT
Mastodude....they are taking so long on this album it could easily take another 2-3 years. When Lars says don't hold your breath i'm taking that literally.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:41:30 GMT
Let's have a wager.
If the album comes out this year - you buy one of my albums.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:42:07 GMT
MAY 2015 - We have started recording the album
DECEMBER 2015 - we have nearly finished tracking.
THREE MORE YEARS CONFIRMED !!!11
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 20:00:36 GMT
MAY 2015 - We have started recording the album DECEMBER 2015 - we have nearly finished tracking. THREE MORE YEARS CONFIRMED !!!11 WE HAVE NO FINISHED SONGS !!!11
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Post by Metallicanatic on Feb 13, 2016 20:23:33 GMT
Probably just means they haven't finished laying down all the tracks. What we do know is that we've heard a snippet of one song that had drums, guitars, and vocals.
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Post by SicJes on Feb 13, 2016 21:17:11 GMT
maybe there are no new ''songs'' on the album, maybe its just one big ''movement''. One big epic wave of sound.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:50:14 GMT
ALBUMHOOD
IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO MAAAAAAAAAAAKE !!!!1111
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Post by DaJester on Feb 13, 2016 22:48:34 GMT
Was it September or October when Kirk said the infamous line: "90% of the album done".
Ohnoes, is Kirk backpedaling!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 22:58:08 GMT
Nope. He admitted later he pulled it out of his arse cause he was tired of people asking him about the album.
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Post by DaJester on Feb 13, 2016 23:08:00 GMT
Nope. He admitted later he pulled it out of his arse cause he was tired of people asking him about the album. ... Lying about how much the next album has progressed in that situation sure sounds like a smart thing to do... not. Go Kirk!
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